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It is kind of sad how little Macs contribute to Apple's sales these days. It's all about smartphones and tablets now.
 
It is kind of sad how little Macs contribute to Apple's sales these days. It's all about smartphones and tablets now.
For posterity, is there any source that gives definitive numbers on apple sales (I haven't been following much non-Haswell news :D)?
Exactly. This is what Tim Cook doesn't seem to understand. Developers love their Macs and you really do want to keep them on your side.
That's the general feeling one would get from their Mac Pro updates over time. I'm pretty sure deadlines wait for no one. Developers will buy Dell/HP/Lenovo Workstations instead to get their **** done. Unlike consumers, they can't sit on macrumors all day waiting for bits n pieces of rumors about a new mac pro.

Let's hope the announcements in the coming month fixes that.
 
For posterity, is there any source that gives definitive numbers on apple sales (I haven't been following much non-Haswell news :D)?

That's the general feeling one would get from their Mac Pro updates over time. I'm pretty sure deadlines wait for no one. Developers will buy Dell/HP/Lenovo Workstations instead to get their **** done. Unlike consumers, they can't sit on macrumors all day waiting for bits n pieces of rumors about a new mac pro.

Let's hope the announcements in the coming month fixes that.

https://www.macrumors.com/2013/07/22/u-s-mac-sales-down-in-june-despite-introduction-of-new-macbook-airs/

Most recent thing I could find. No way is it as low as 3 percent, but definitely not more than 15.

But given how the laptop market is declining and how everyone is using tablets these days, I think we should blessed that Apple is still making Macs. And also caring about them. The day Macs are gone, is the day many of us lose a great option.
 
The day Apple stops making Macs will be the day I give up technology and live as a mountain hermit. That is unless the iPad can match a MacBook Pro in terms of file access and computing power. I may be 22, but I don't understand where tablets fall in the computing device continuum between smartphones and computers.
 
The day Apple stops making Macs will be the day I give up technology and live as a mountain hermit. That is unless the iPad can match a MacBook Pro in terms of file access and computing power. I may be 22, but I don't understand where tablets fall in the computing device continuum between smartphones and computers.

I don't think anyone really does. That's why when you ask anyone what they do with their tablet they say "Netflix" "Games" "Surfing the web"

There are a select few (those who wish for a bigger iPad) who actually use it to aid their music creation and other production type activities, but it won't ever really become a consumer-wide thing. In my own opinion, anyway.
 
https://www.macrumors.com/2013/07/22/u-s-mac-sales-down-in-june-despite-introduction-of-new-macbook-airs/

Most recent thing I could find. No way is it as low as 3 percent, but definitely not more than 15.

But given how the laptop market is declining and how everyone is using tablets these days, I think we should blessed that Apple is still making Macs. And also caring about them. The day Macs are gone, is the day many of us lose a great option.

Thanks for that. They will be relegated to specialty hardware for sure, but they will exist. Majority of the people simply had no need for everything that a computer offers. They will happily be living in the touch/wearable device paradise and eventually we will too, but only when they have suitable replacements for cranking out pro level 'content.'
 
That's it: I've ordered the specced up 15" (16GB RAM, 512GB storage, 2.7GHz). I was looking at the page and it told me it would take 4-5 days to even dispatch, and as I'm going away to uni in a different country at the end of next week, I couldn't risk it being late.

Good luck with your vigil guys, I hope they make it worth the wait.
 
That's it: I've ordered the specced up 15" (16GB RAM, 512GB storage, 2.7GHz). I was looking at the page and it told me it would take 4-5 days to even dispatch, and as I'm going away to uni in a different country at the end of next week, I couldn't risk it being late.

Good luck with your vigil guys, I hope they make it worth the wait.

Congrats. Sounds like you absolutely had to order. You'll still enjoy it. But for those of us that can wait, it's smart to.
 
I don't understand where tablets fall in the computing device continuum between smartphones and computers.

I don't think anyone really does. That's why when you ask anyone what they do with their tablet they say "Netflix" "Games" "Surfing the web"

There are a select few (those who wish for a bigger iPad) who actually use it to aid their music creation and other production type activities, but it won't ever really become a consumer-wide thing. In my own opinion, anyway.

The conventional wisdom (with which I agree in this case) is that iPads are better than laptops for content consumption, but laptops are much better than iPads for content creation.
 
You have to admit though we wouldn't have today's Macs if it weren't for the iPod.
That might be true, but it's not a falsifiable hypothesis, so I don't have to admit it. :D It would be a bit safer to say that today's Macs would almost certainly be different (in some unknowable way) if it weren't for the iPod.

Interesting insight.
Thank you, but I cannot take much credit because a large number of people came to this conclusion independently.

I'm studying history in college, so I do a fair amount of both.
I would use an iPad for reading and a Mac for writing. Good luck with your studies.
 
So I'm about to do what probably no one wants me to. I'm bringing back iGPU vs. dGPU. Gonna dig through these 7,000 posts to find the most controversial. I've got class tomorrow from 9:30 till 2:30 (off and on) but then I'm sifting :D

#teamdpgu
 
That might be true, but it's not a falsifiable hypothesis, so I don't have to admit it. :D It would be a bit safer to say that today's Macs would almost certainly be different (in some unknowable way) if it weren't for the iPod.


Thank you, but I cannot take much credit because a large number of people came to this conclusion independently.


I would use an iPad for reading and a Mac for writing. Good luck with your studies.

The sheer wealth and riches brought in from Apple single handedly demolishing the music consumption paradigm pretty much brought Apple back from, well, not much. No money, no Macs. :D

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So I'm about to do what probably no one wants me to. I'm bringing back iGPU vs. dGPU. Gonna dig through these 7,000 posts to find the most controversial. I've got class tomorrow from 9:30 till 2:30 (off and on) but then I'm sifting :D

#teamdpgu

THANK YOU.

And if the forum auto-un-capitalizes the above statement, imagine said statement in all caps.
 
I would use an iPad for reading and a Mac for writing. Good luck with your studies.

Honestly, I'm one of those people who prefers to do lots of reading on the laptop. And I'm sure with a rMBP I'll be even more inclined to do so. But I can't say I'm not trying to see where an iPad would fit into my life.
 
The sheer wealth and riches brought in from Apple single handedly demolishing the music consumption paradigm pretty much brought Apple back from, well, not much.
The iPod was certainly a big deal for Apple, for the music industry, and for the world. Very few people ever introduce an innovation so disruptive that it turns an entire industry on its head. Henry Ford did it with automobiles, for example. Other than Steve Jobs, no one has ever done it twice. Steve did it at least four times: he turned the computer industry on its head with the GUI (which before Steve everyone thought required a chorded keyboard), he turned the music industry on its head with the iPod and iTunes, he turned the mobile phone industry on its head with the iPhone, and he turned the computer industry on its head a second time with the iPad. It remains to be seen whether or not he will have turned the television industry on its head with Apple TV and whether or not an iWatch will similarly change the world. (I'm not sure how much of the credit Steve would deserve for an iWatch, but probably at least some.)

So I'm about to do what probably no one wants me to. I'm bringing back iGPU vs. dGPU. Gonna dig through these 7,000 posts to find the most controversial.

#teamdpgu
#teamIntegratedCircuitsAreBetterThanDiscreteCircuits
 
There have been a surprising lack of leaks regarding the rMBP. What if it's not announced in October after all? Could they be waiting for the 2014 Haswell/Broadwell bump? Or maybe they're having more problems with Iris Pro than they thought? #dgpu
 
#teamIntegratedCircuitsAreBetterThanDiscreteCircuits

I'm looking forward to when it's released and it has the option to choose an iGPU, or an additional dGPU. You guys can all put down your weapons and hug each other.
 
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