Waiting for Haswell MBP Mega Thread

[Stetrain]

It looks like there is about an $80 price different between the 4600 and iris pro chips at 2.3/2.4 speeds. I've never seen nvidia publish pricing for their mobile gpus but I can't imagine it would be more than 100-150 tops so you could be right. It wouldn't be worth it to price the two models within $100.

This is from Anandtech's Iris Pro review:

From talking to OEMs, NVIDIA seems to offer better performance at equivalent pricing with their GT 740M/750M solutions, which is why many PC OEMs have decided to go that route for their Haswell launch platforms. What Intel hopes however is that the power savings by going to a single 47W part will win over OEMs in the long run, after all, we are talking about notebooks here.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/6993/intel-iris-pro-5200-graphics-review-core-i74950hq-tested/19

So basically Iris Pro's only real advantage is power savings over a dedicated GPU. I don't think this would be very useful to Apple in the 15" since they already don't include usage of the dGPU in their battery life numbers.

 

[cube]

This is from Anandtech's Iris Pro review:



http://www.anandtech.com/show/6993/intel-iris-pro-5200-graphics-review-core-i74950hq-tested/19

So basically Iris Pro's only real advantage is power savings over a dedicated GPU. I don't think this would be very useful to Apple in the 15" since they already don't include usage of the dGPU in their battery life numbers.

There should be also the advantage of increased bandwidth between the application and the GPGPU. That's why I'm interested.

 

[ch900712]

I really hope the haswell models will be available before 21 of June my student discount expires then :-(

 

[KAWS11]

I really hope the haswell models will be available before 21 of June my student discount expires then :-(

no it doesn't

 

[B...]

no it doesn't

Why do you say that?

 

[03sho]

All leaks suggest we won't be seeing the new rMBP's launch tomorrow. But, I'm hoping for a pre order at least.

Well, hope they actually announce the new ones tomorrow!

 

[KAWS11]

Why do you say that?

if you order online, anyone can get the student discount

 

[Lunfai]

if you order online, anyone can get the student discount

Would make sense if its up for pre order and the SKUs haven't arrived yet here's to hope, by this time tomorrow, we will know what's down.

 

[B...]

if you order online, anyone can get the student discount

Illegal and unethical.

 

[jafingi]

All leaks suggest we won't be seeing the new rMBP's launch tomorrow. But, I'm hoping for a pre order at least.

Well, hope they actually announce the new ones tomorrow!

I can't remember when I last saw a MBP leak. Must be years ago. So I don't think that it is a sign of no rMBP update.

All Apple's competitors have revealed their Haswell laptops. And a lot of us are holding off until they release a Haswell rMBP. So I think WWDC is the best place for them to announce it. A simple hardware update is not enough for a seperate event.

I think we'll see the keynote in this order:

1) Welcome
2) "Amaaazing" that WWDC was sold out in a few minutes. Fastest ever!
2) Numbers of sales etc. Everyone is happy. Video to prove that. Praise the developers for their great work.
3) iOS 7 (maybe with iRadio)
4) Mac OS 10.9
5) Macbook updates
6) Bye

I wonder if we could see Jony on stage? I guess not..

 

[APPLE-FANATIC]

Would make sense if its up for pre order and the SKUs haven't arrived yet here's to hope, by this time tomorrow, we will know what's down.

If updates are coming, shouldnt we see the apple store go down tonight or tomorrow night?? That would be a huge clue!!

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I can't remember when I last saw a MBP leak. Must be years ago. So I don't think that it is a sign of no rMBP update.

All Apple's competitors have revealed their Haswell laptops. And a lot of us are holding off until they release a Haswell rMBP. So I think WWDC is the best place for them to announce it. A simple hardware update is not enough for a seperate event.

I think we'll see the keynote in this order:

1) Welcome
2) "Amaaazing" that WWDC was sold out in a few minutes. Fastest ever!
2) Numbers of sales etc. Everyone is happy. Video to prove that. Praise the developers for their great work.
3) iOS 7 (maybe with iRadio)
4) Mac OS 10.9
5) Macbook updates
6) Bye

I wonder if we could see Jony on stage? I guess not..

You are correct! I have never seen a MBP leak in the last 10 years I have been following Apple. There are always rumors, but never a true leak of information. Just like the refresh in Feb 2013, nobody saw that one coming at all!!

 

[adjeff8]

current new is that its going to pack the 780m, she is the new whore in town even acer is getting it

and suddenly...
Woke up, fell out of bed
Dragged a comb across my head
Found my way downstairs and drank a cup
And looking up, I noticed I was late
Found my coat and grabbed my hat
Made the bus in seconds flat
Found my way upstairs and had a smoke
And somebody spoke and I went into a dream

It's good to know that there are still people out the who are familiar with REAL music

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I can't remember when I last saw a MBP leak. Must be years ago. So I don't think that it is a sign of no rMBP update.

All Apple's competitors have revealed their Haswell laptops. And a lot of us are holding off until they release a Haswell rMBP. So I think WWDC is the best place for them to announce it. A simple hardware update is not enough for a seperate event.

I think we'll see the keynote in this order:

1) Welcome
2) "Amaaazing" that WWDC was sold out in a few minutes. Fastest ever!
2) Numbers of sales etc. Everyone is happy. Video to prove that. Praise the developers for their great work.
3) iOS 7 (maybe with iRadio)
4) Mac OS 10.9
5) Macbook updates
6) Bye

I wonder if we could see Jony on stage? I guess not..

I'm thinking they will also announce the iWatch

 

[Ricanlegend]

Illegal and unethical.

illegal ? lol no drugs are illegal unethical ? depends on who you ask apple are still making money everybody wins

 

[SuperMiguel]

waiting for this release

Im between the new AW, Razer and this one

 

[B...]

illegal ? lol no drugs are illegal unethical ? depends on who you ask apple are still making money everybody wins

Yes, it is illegal. When you go onto the page,it makes you select your school. Lying about this is false representation and is technically subject to prosecution.

 

[ch900712]

illegal ? lol no drugs are illegal unethical ? depends on who you ask apple are still making money everybody wins

In the UK apple store as far as I know you cant order with student discount if your not on the universities network and logged in with your universities account which expires when you graduate.

 

[APPLE-FANATIC]

Shouldn't Model Identifiers slowly start to appear prior to the WWDC?

 

[devilcm3]

Yes, it is illegal. When you go onto the page,it makes you select your school. Lying about this is false representation and is technically subject to prosecution.

I'd say it would be unethical, but not illegal.
Illegal would be something like ... Apple starts selling weed, and you buy those from them, thats illegal.

Education Store can be considered as some form of discount, it is not possible to get into legal problems just by purchasing discounted items.
its akin to posing as a senior citizen to get cheap movie tickets ... is it illegal? no, is it unethical? yes.

just my two cents.

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Shouldn't Model Identifiers slowly start to appear prior to the WWDC?

last year they have "spy shots" of the boxes that are going to be launched right before announcement, however ... we're just 17 hours before WWDC ... any leaks would be pointless

 

[Lunfai]

In the UK apple store as far as I know you cant order with student discount if your not on the universities network and logged in with your universities account which expires when you graduate.

Not true. You can access this link out of network too.

 

[B...]

I'd say it would be unethical, but not illegal.
Illegal would be something like ... Apple starts selling weed, and you buy those from them, thats illegal.

Education Store can be considered as some form of discount, it is not possible to get into legal problems just by purchasing discounted items.
its akin to posing as a senior citizen to get cheap movie tickets ... is it illegal? no, is it unethical? yes.

just my two cents.

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last year they have "spy shots" of the boxes that are going to be launched right before announcement, however ... we're just 17 hours before WWDC ... any leaks would be pointless

Go to the education store and click on Terms and Conditions. Eligibility is for teachers and higher education students. On the bottom there is a section caled audits. It states that Apple regularly moniters for people who do not meet the requirements, and they reserve the right to take you to court ("competent jurisdiction"). If they have cause to prosecute you, you clearly have done something illegal. Posing as someone you are not in order to receive goods or services not due to you is a legal no-no.

 

[devilcm3]

Go to the education store and click on Terms and Conditions. Eligibility is for teachers and higher education students. On the bottom there is a section caled audits. It states that Apple regularly moniters for people who do not meet the requirements, and they reserve the right to take you to court ("competent jurisdiction"). If they have cause to prosecute you, you clearly have done something illegal. Posing as someone you are not in order to receive goods or services not due to you is a legal no-no.

is it?
but i doubt that they would mount a legal case against the customer, especially infrequent buyers.
the legal costs doesn't justify the amount of little fishes abusing the system.

unless perhaps if you saved more than $10k(?) alone from abusing the edu-store.

 

[B...]

is it?
but i doubt that they would mount a legal case against the customer, especially infrequent buyers.
the legal costs doesn't justify the amount of little fishes abusing the system.

unless perhaps if you saved more than $10k(?) alone from abusing the edu-store.

It's the theory that counts.

 

[Lunfai]

is it?
but i doubt that they would mount a legal case against the customer, especially infrequent buyers.
the legal costs doesn't justify the amount of little fishes abusing the system.

unless perhaps if you saved more than $10k(?) alone from abusing the edu-store.

They put that but most likely will never follow up. But to be safe then sorry, is how this goes. I know people who've ordered off my university link and they're not enrolled or anything and they've been fine. I wouldn't really advise anyone to do it though.

 

[skaertus]

We're only 14 hours from the event now!

 

[portishead]

I'll sell my rMBP if I can get wireless AC. It will be the biggest improvement for me since I connect to my iTunes from a NAS, and it's pretty laggy with N speeds. AC would help quite a bit.

I also think the display could be a little brighter.