Waiting for Haswell MBP Mega Thread

[mcarling]

Can you explain, then, why iPhone prices in Australia are (seemingly) inflated while Mac prices are not? Are the taxes etc. a bigger issue for phones than computers? I assumed that Apple tries to lower Mac prices as much as they can to gain market share, but are happy with their iPhone market share here.

iPhone 5C 16GB: US$549, AU$739 = +35%
13" rMBP 256GB: US$1699, AU$1849 = +9%

To eliminate the possibility of drift in exchange rates since the 13" rMBP 256GB was priced in OZ, let's compare the new iMac and the new iPhone, ok?

This is incorrect to my understanding. Check out this article:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-22868787

The BBC article starts by stating the three reasons I did, as fact. Then they quote three people, none of them economists, who speculate that Sony and Microsoft *might* try to achieve different profit margins in different countries depending on willingness to pay. Sony and Microsoft might -- I don't know. I know Apple don't do that.

The Motion Picture Association of America do set international prices that way.
Pharmaceutical companies set prices in most countries by negotiation with the governments, which is a little bit similar to ability to pay, but not the same. Tesla is an example of a company with an explicitly stated policy of setting international prices to achieve a constant profit margin, with price differences reflecting the three reasons I listed above, plus shipping costs (which are minor in the Apple case).

 

[jz-]

Can we please leave the cost-between-countries issues to another thread. Its not what most people viewing this tread want to read about!

Not every conversation on this thread is going to be what everyone following it wants to hear; that doesn't mean anyone says to cut the dGPU/iGPU talk, which is starting to get old - some variation in topic is nice too. And the cost is still relevant to a lot of people here who plan to buy this when it comes out.

To eliminate the possibility of drift in exchange rates since the 13" rMBP 256GB was priced in OZ, let's compare the new iMac and the new iPhone, ok?

The AUD has dropped ~10% between the releases, and the iMac has prices higher than the US dollar by +22%, but still lower than the iPhones by a fair bit.

 

[Crazy Badger]

Can I just get a Haswall rMBP 13" with decent graphics, a largish SSD and enough RAM for less than £1,500 please, ideally within the next couple of weeks

Thanks

 

[ValSalva]

Can I just get a Haswall rMBP 13" with decent graphics, a largish SSD and enough RAM for less than £1,500 please, ideally within the next couple of weeks

Thanks

If you change "couple of weeks" to "three to four weeks," then Yes!

 

[mattburley7]

Can I just get a Haswall rMBP 13" with decent graphics, a largish SSD and enough RAM for less than £1,500 please, ideally within the next couple of weeks

Thanks

same here really want to upgrade to retina display since my other apple devices have it.. just the cost of spending over $1,500 on a computer is the problem.

 

[Koulie]

Just a round-up for the many viewers of this thread that may of been overwhelmed with the flood of pages within the last 48 hours.

New iMacs silently released, here is an article covering that in great detail.

Rumored October event for Ocotober 15th or 22nd increasily mentioned in the rumor mill. Expect the new rMBP to be announed then, with perhaps (optimistic) a surprise (TB2 maybe), alongside iPads, Mavericks GM, Mac Pro and more.

 

[Uliman]

Because the refresh is taking so long, it is my thought that the new rMBP will sport a new body, likely a bit more svelte and perhaps available in these new colors:

http://appleinsider.com/articles/13...sing-show-space-gray-and-silver-color-options

 

[jeffy.dee-lux]

Just a round-up for the many viewers of this thread that may of been overwhelmed with the flood of pages within the last 48 hours.

New iMacs silently released, here is an article covering that in great detail.

Rumored October event for Ocotober 15th or 22nd increasily mentioned in the rumor mill. Expect the new rMBP to be announed then, with perhaps (optimistic) a surprise (TB2 maybe), alongside iPads, Mavericks GM, Mac Pro and more.

Thanks! Summary is much appreciated!

 

[johnnylarue]

I'm planning to buy a fully maxed out one so the better the top specs the better for me. Money is no object with this upgrade I've been waiting so long the pile of money set aside for the computer is incurring interest.

I'm in a different boat, having to replace my stolen, uninsured 17" MBP. I'd much rather be in your position.

 

[ValSalva]

Because the refresh is taking so long, it is my thought that the new rMBP will sport a new body, likely a bit more svelte and perhaps available in these new colors:

http://appleinsider.com/articles/13...sing-show-space-gray-and-silver-color-options

I highly doubt any redesign. The cMBP came out in October of 2008 and it remains essentially the same except for some minor changes due to new batteries over the years.

The rMBP is only a little over one year old. There are no significant design defects that would necessitate a change. The wait is most likely due to high performance top-bin Haswell processors, TB2 (hopefully), and at this point, Mavericks.

 

[mneblett]

New iMacs silently released, here is an article covering that in great detail.

Interesting statement in the Anand article:

"Note that the new iMacs still use Thunderbolt 1.0, for 2.0 you'll likely have to wait for the new rMBPs and Mac Pro."

It would appear that he [EDIT] sees TB2 to be likely in the Haswell MBP.

You could also *infer* (without much basis) that he's expecting the new MBP and new MacPro to be released in the same event.

 

[JohnDoe98]

Because the refresh is taking so long, it is my thought that the new rMBP will sport a new body, likely a bit more svelte and perhaps available in these new colors:

http://appleinsider.com/articles/13...sing-show-space-gray-and-silver-color-options

I doubt it. I think it'll be the same design, just with TB 2. My guess is Apple will release the Mac Pro, RMBPs, and a Retina Thunderbolt display, with Mavericks, all at the same time. They'll want TB 2 in all the Pro lines so that they can run the TB Retina Display. What exactly is the hold up, is it the Mac Pro, the TB Display, or Mavericks, is anyone's guess. Maybe there is some wishful thinking on my part here, but anyway...

 

[Quu]

iFixit did their teardown of the new iMac today and the PCIe Flash connector is the same type as the MacBook Air using a stick with a single screw to secure the stick down.

So it would appear we will be seeing the 1TB SSD Stick in the new Retina MacBook Pro and Mac Pro.

 

[JorgeLomeli]

iFixit did their teardown of the new iMac today and the PCIe Flash connector is the same type as the MacBook Air using a stick with a single screw to secure the stick down.

So it would appear we will be seeing the 1TB SSD Stick in the new Retina MacBook Pro and Mac Pro.

That is awesome!! lets hope we´ll see the 32Gb ram option in the next rMBP too, i´ll be extremely happy with that.




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[Krazy Bill]

If the 15" has an optional dgpu, will the igpu-only 15" have a different case as opposed to the dgpu included version?

I would think retooling factories to make yet another unibody chassis would be cost prohibitive. Especially for a dwindling laptop market.

Because the refresh is taking so long, it is my thought that the new rMBP will sport a new body, likely a bit more svelte and perhaps available in these new colors:

I find that hard to believe. No parts leaks to support this. Zero. Nada. Zip. Some of you guys need to understand that most of the world does not share our enthusiasm for Apple’s OSX offerings like it was when the word, "Computer" was still in the name. I'm just thankful we still have the choices we do. (polycarb & MBP17 R.I.P.)

You could also *infer* (without much basis) that he's expecting the new MBP and new MacPro to be released in the same event.

That’s only because he’s read this thread.

 

[JonDziok]

The cMBP came out in October of 2008

Wrong. Think... older... My 2.12 Core Duo MBP came out in 2006/2007. Things have changed considerably since then (except for the screen resolution of the non-retinas)

Unless you mean the unibody design, in which case, just say that next time...

 

[ValSalva]

Wrong. Think... older... My 2.12 Core Duo MBP came out in 2006/2007. Things have changed considerably since then (except for the screen resolution of the non-retinas)

Unless you mean the unibody design, in which case, just say that next time...

I did mean the unibody design. Isn't that what is meant by cMBP these days?

 

[Quu]

I did mean the unibody design. Isn't that what is meant by cMBP these days?

No. We have cMBP, uMBP and rMBP. The uMBP is the unibody. cMBP is the classic pre-unibody design.

 

[GSPice]

Because the refresh is taking so long, it is my thought that the new rMBP will sport a new body, likely a bit more svelte and perhaps available in these new colors:

http://appleinsider.com/articles/13...sing-show-space-gray-and-silver-color-options

No, not going to happen at all.

 

[PDFierro]

Because the refresh is taking so long, it is my thought that the new rMBP will sport a new body, likely a bit more svelte and perhaps available in these new colors:

http://appleinsider.com/articles/13...sing-show-space-gray-and-silver-color-options

Nope. This is the Mac we're talking about. The 13-inch will get a little thinner, but that's it.

 

[ValSalva]

No. We have cMBP, uMBP and rMBP. The uMBP is the unibody. cMBP is the classic pre-unibody design.

Really. There has been all kinds of speculation on this thread about whether the "cMBP" will receive the Haswell upgrade or even be discontinued.

You are saying it's already been discontinued for over four years? So we have all been wrong?

 

[GSPice]

So I'm guessing the maxed-out 15" will have a 750M, 1GB.

I'm hoping for at least a 750M with 2GB.

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No. We have cMBP, uMBP and rMBP. The uMBP is the unibody. cMBP is the classic pre-unibody design.

You're wrong. Check again. It will confuse others.

 

[Rick-ITA]

How likely is an October 1 silent release?

While if we go to Oct 8, either we have a release either we will know the date of the next apple event (with, let's hope, rMBP).

Ah... Just imagine how funny it will be if Apple silently updates mac mini next tuesday...

 

[GSPice]

I suppose there's a possibility that Apple may do a 30-second MBP thing at an event, if they only intended to do a silent refresh? I hope that its bigger than a silent refresh though.

 

[KUguardgrl13]

No. We have cMBP, uMBP and rMBP. The uMBP is the unibody. cMBP is the classic pre-unibody design.

uMBP is too confusing for the casual consumer posters. The rMBP is still a unibody. cMBP and rMBP are still currently in production. Personally I call my mid-2009 just MBP since it was the only current design at the time.

There should probably be a guide somewhere that goes over our abbreviations and lingo. Not every newbie can pick up context.