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Waiting for Haswell MBP Mega Thread
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But srsly, why are people so sure its even 2013?
Except the obvious "it would be stupid of apple to postpone till 14"?
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The better question is why would they? It's clearly ready to go. And Apple is not about to have their flagship laptop continue on with last-gen hardware.
I think some people are just doubting the release because they have waited so long and that we are into October without nothing. But it's silly to think like that.
Seriously. The Haswell rMBP has as much of a chance of not coming out as the iPad and Mac Pro does.
is Haswell rMBP going to fix the lag issues in the current rMBP?
A 10-15% increase in cpu speed or gpu processing power is not going to help.
That would be the only reason I will upgrade, if the haswell fixes those issues.
Otherwise what is the point you can get a base rMBP for around $1500 used, and maybe $1700 new.
A 10-15% increase in cpu speed or gpu processing power is not going to help.
That would be the only reason I will upgrade, if the haswell fixes those issues.
Otherwise what is the point you can get a base rMBP for around $1500 used, and maybe $1700 new.
I haven't personally, but many people on this forum have. And the lag is pretty much fixed.
But with the Haswell rMBP, you will also get a more powerful GPU. So that's a plus, too.
Has anyone stopped to consider that excessive inventory is the reason for holding back the Haswell MBP's? I seem to recall that Apple missed projected unit sales. (Even though they fared better than most everyone else in the notebook market).
If it gets pushed to 2014 I'm getting something else. Not sure if I can tolerate the MBA form factor or windows 8 more. I can get through another few weeks of waiting, but I absolutely cannot wait into next year. My spring semester starts mid-January, and I need my own laptop for my senior thesis. I don't need the power of haswell, but the battery life will be a huge plus.
Please, Apple! I haven't been waiting terribly long, but your geniuses have failed to fix my current machine!
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While plausible, I can't imagine they think delaying the new model will help move inventory. I would think sales have slowed down with BTS over and a new release imminent. I doubt that stores besides Apple will be stocking up when they're reasonably sure they'll have to get rid of it soon. They need the new products to advertise for the holidays.
Please, Apple! I haven't been waiting terribly long, but your geniuses have failed to fix my current machine!
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While plausible, I can't imagine they think delaying the new model will help move inventory. I would think sales have slowed down with BTS over and a new release imminent. I doubt that stores besides Apple will be stocking up when they're reasonably sure they'll have to get rid of it soon. They need the new products to advertise for the holidays.
This might be a silly question, but a MBA sounds like it would be perfect for your needs. I can't think of a better laptop for non-graphics-intensive school stuff, especially with the ridiculous battery life they have.
I mean, it wasn't named "Best. Laptop. Ever." by a gazillion reviewers for nothing, was it?
I can think of plenty of reasons. They'll get destroyed in the market if they release Haswell MBPs next year, long after all of the competition launches. Believe it or not many people are cross-shopping Mac and Windows these days.
Mavericks was basically made for the Haswell rMBP. It's loaded with CPU usage optimizations designed to keep the machine at near-idle during day to day tasks (which is when Haswell's power efficiency improvements are most significant).
Releasing the refreshed rMBP with the new Mac Pro makes sense just in terms of a "Pro" line release theme.
All of the competitors are also releasing in October, which points to the entire delay being a simple matter of Haswell CPU supply.
The technology you'd expect for the next major overhaul of the platform isn't ready. IGZO displays, Broadwell's 30% power decrease at 100% load (allows for much faster CPUs in the same platform at the same or even lower power consumption/heat levels), OS X touch screen functionality (the base of which is launchpad, though this may not ever actually fully materialize), Maxwell NVidia GPUs... all of this stuff is largely impossible until around this time next year. Means there's not anything to be gained from waiting to launch.
The benchmarks, which I'm certain were not "leaked" so much as presented as a preview of the device/confirmation that it exists.
Honestly, the fact that Mavericks basically exists to improve the rMBP experience is the biggest clue. You don't design a major OS update around a product that doesn't exist.
Yep, huge disappointment even comparing to an iPad 2 and a 2010 MBP (17"). That shouldn't happen, even in the budget line; it should have been a decent quality 1440x900 panel instead of the so bad I didn't know they still made them like that TN panel (to clarify, I'm saying that it's bad even for a TN panel).
They released iMacs last week, released the new iPhone and will release Mac Pro. That's it!
No MBP this year.
New MBPs coming out February 2014.
I'm a history major, so I have books that I lug all over campus. My current MBP has small dents and bent ears from four years of being tossed in a backpack. I'm just not sure an MBA would hold up well for me. The screen also looks worse than my current MBP's. I also would prefer to go from pro to pro rather than "downgrade".
At the cost of an MBA I could probably put a new logic board, hard drive, and SATA cable into my current machine and have it running again. Or I could just replace the hard drive and SATA cable and leave the MBP on my desk and take an iPad mini to campus. With the rMBP I get a new machine running current tech that should hopefully last a few years. I don't need more than 8gb ram and a 256gb SSD.
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Understood.
I do think the MBA screen gets an unreasonably bad rap from the nerds, though. My girlfriend has a 2013 MBA and compared to the display on the white MacBook it replaced it's absolutely stunning.
But it's no retina.
And I'd also argue that an Air would stand up to abuse every bit as well as a rMBP, if not better.
At the end of the day though, it's your last sentence that I can really relate to: I can't stand the idea of "downgrading", either! It's a terrible affliction.
I should start a Waiting for Broadwell MBP thread...
I think someone beat you to it. Weeks ago.
I should start a Waiting for Broadwell MBP thread...
Yes please do it actually. that would be great. I would've LOVED to buy a rMBP, but with broadwell up around the corner - i am forcing myself to wait.
But a new release is only imminent to those of us that follow such things and we are a small minority. The rest of the buying public doesn't really care.
Still plenty of goods at the retail suppliers and at Apple. No sign of letting up soon. Just throwing it out there. I don't even know how Apple's supply chains work.
I guess I meant to say, "months ago"!
Man, time flies when you're agonizing over a MBP refresh...
That is an easy question to answer: next time the 15 october is on a tuesday is 2019.
Thats why it will be 2013
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