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Waiting for Haswell MBP Mega Thread

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Sharp supposedly has 3840×2160 px IGZO displays that'd be pefect for the rMBP refresh. Rumor has it that Apple is putting these babies into the new rMBP's for the improved resolution and given the battery sparing nature of IGZO displays.

Sadly these displays aren't going into production until February next year. It's looking more and more likely that the rMBP refresh will take place early next year :( Still, I'll have my fingers crossed for the Oct 15 event.

http://au.ibtimes.com/articles/5103...3-haswell-release-date-specs.htm#.UktbYWSieUs
 
ParanoidDroid said:
It's very likely that Apple is skipping Haswell and waiting for Broadwell instead due to better iGPU performance. Thunderbolt 2 is also delaying everything.
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I wish people stopped saying this. It's still way too early for Broadwell. We would have to wait 6 months or probably more. It doesn't make any sense at all to skip Haswell.

As far as Thunderbolt 2 goes, I have a feeling if the Mac Pro releases in the same time frame as the rMBP, we might see thunderbolt on the rMBP as well. So I'm hoping apple teases the Mac Pro this month too.
 
bilawal said:
Sharp supposedly has 3840×2160 px IGZO displays that'd be pefect for the rMBP refresh. Rumor has it that Apple is putting these babies into the new rMBP's for the improved resolution and given the battery sparing nature of IGZO displays.

Sadly these displays aren't going into production until February next year. It's looking more and more likely that the rMBP refresh will take place early next year :( Still, I'll have my fingers crossed for the Oct 15 event.

http://au.ibtimes.com/articles/5103...3-haswell-release-date-specs.htm#.UktbYWSieUs
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Or they would be for the Broadwell rMBP ;)
 
bilawal said:
Sharp supposedly has 3840×2160 px IGZO displays that'd be pefect for the rMBP refresh. Rumor has it that Apple is putting these babies into the new rMBP's for the improved resolution and given the battery sparing nature of IGZO displays.

Sadly these displays aren't going into production until February next year. It's looking more and more likely that the rMBP refresh will take place early next year :( Still, I'll have my fingers crossed for the Oct 15 event.

http://au.ibtimes.com/articles/5103...3-haswell-release-date-specs.htm#.UktbYWSieUs
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Because of IGZO? Simple: the Haswell rMBP just wouldn't have IGZO. Apple wouldn't hold the release back because of it. They would just put in the Broadwell rMBP.

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Watabou said:
I wish people stopped saying this. It's still way too early for Broadwell. We would have to wait 6 months or probably more. It doesn't make any sense at all to skip Haswell.

As far as Thunderbolt 2 goes, I have a feeling if the Mac Pro releases in the same time frame as the rMBP, we might see thunderbolt on the rMBP as well. So I'm hoping apple teases the Mac Pro this month too.
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I know, seriously. It's getting ridiculous how many people are saying that we won't see the rMBP until next year or that Apple would actually skip Haswell.
 
PDFierro said:
I know, seriously. It's getting ridiculous how many people are saying that we won't see the rMBP until next year or that Apple would actually skip Haswell.
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Yeah. I mean it's been a long wait. I've been waiting since May and I understand how nothing showing up for months can make you lose hope. I was reading an anandtech article where they mentioned that the rMBP seemed like it was made with Haswell in mind and I couldn't agree more. It really would be a dumb idea to skip it altogether when Broadwell is so far away.
 
yokken said:
Anybody see this? http://www.theverge.com/2013/10/1/4792028/carl-icahn-pushing-tim-cook-for-150-billion-stock-buyback

Carl Icahn tweeted today saying "Had a cordial dinner with Tim last night. We pushed hard for a 150 billion buyback. We decided to continue dialogue in about three weeks."

Discussions in 3 weeks would make sense if they release the new iPads and rMBPs in 2 weeks, potentially causing a rise in AAPL stock. Maybe I'm wrong. But a guy can dream!
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Wouldn't that be a clue the event will be on the 22nd?
 
Nismo73 said:
Wouldn't that be a clue the event will be on the 22nd?
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Depends on when the iPads are launching most likely. iPad sales are a much bigger deal than rMBP or Mac Pro in terms of profits, so if we assume that the iPads won't be available immediately (they generally aren't as I recall, but I haven't really been paying attention to their releases since the 2), it might make sense. Event on the 15th, available on Friday, sales numbers on Monday. Something like that.

Would be consistent with what we saw for the 5S launch anyway: Stock drops or stays flat after announcement, rises after excellent sales figures are released. I'd imagine that Apple may be fairly confident that their redesigned big mini iPad will be a big hit, and I'm inclined to agree. If I were interested in buying another iPad this would be the one.
 
yokken said:
Anybody see this? http://www.theverge.com/2013/10/1/4792028/carl-icahn-pushing-tim-cook-for-150-billion-stock-buyback

Carl Icahn tweeted today saying "Had a cordial dinner with Tim last night. We pushed hard for a 150 billion buyback. We decided to continue dialogue in about three weeks."

Discussions in 3 weeks would make sense if they release the new iPads and rMBPs in 2 weeks, potentially causing a rise in AAPL stock. Maybe I'm wrong. But a guy can dream!
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Unless Apple is planning to release a game-changing device (a la iPad, iPhone... iWatch?), stock prices are more likely to be lower following a routine product refresh event. They tend to rise in anticipation of an announcement, and then fall when the announcement underwhelms.
 
johnnylarue said:
Unless Apple is planning to release a game-changing device (a la iPad, iPhone... iWatch?), stock prices are more likely to be lower following a routine product refresh event. They tend to rise in anticipation of an announcement, and then fall when the announcement underwhelms.
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What if Apple plans to overwhelm?????????? :D
 
This thread has become a joke....

i think the next rMBP will be in 3 years, 4.14534k resolution, made of unobtainium with ddr5 and quad SLI AMD GPUs....


:apple:
 
Starfyre said:
what is the "scrolling issue" that is mentioned for the current rMBP?
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The rMBP's laggy interface is described well here:

http://www.anandtech.com/show/6409/13inch-retina-macbook-pro-review/5

I for one can vouch that it is a clear difference between the cMBP and rMBP. The non-retina just has no lag. I can't say the same for the retina.

I am simply shocked that the lag would be caused almost purely by lack of CPU power, but apparently they've done thorough testing that shows that. The CPU only having one thread active when scrolling on sites and the thread gets maxed out at 100% which causes the lag.
 
VanillaCracker said:
The rMBP's laggy interface is described well here:

http://www.anandtech.com/show/6409/13inch-retina-macbook-pro-review/5

I for one can vouch that it is a clear difference between the cMBP and rMBP. The non-retina just has no lag. I can't say the same for the retina.

I am simply shocked that the lag would be caused almost purely by lack of CPU power, but apparently they've done thorough testing that shows that. The CPU only having one thread active when scrolling on sites and the thread gets maxed out at 100% which causes the lag.
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It's technically not actually a lack of CPU power. I mean that's the direct cause, but the deeper cause is a lack of GPU "acceleration" (kind of an old-fashioned term but it's more or less correct) of the OS's animation and rendering code. Windows did better according to Anand (I don't have an rMBP so I obviously can't test this) because it handles more of this work on the GPU.

This is what Mavericks is predicted (thanks to tester reports) to correct. Which is fortunate because a solution involving more raw CPU power would require 2x the single-threaded performance of Ivy to get consistent 60fps.
 
Atomic Walrus said:
It's technically not actually a lack of CPU power. I mean that's the direct cause, but the deeper cause is a lack of GPU "acceleration" (kind of an old-fashioned term but it's more or less correct) of the OS's animation and rendering code. Windows did better according to Anand (I don't have an rMBP so I obviously can't test this) because it handles more of this work on the GPU.

This is what Mavericks is predicted (thanks to tester reports) to correct. Which is fortunate because a solution involving more raw CPU power would require 2x the single-threaded performance of Ivy to get consistent 60fps.[/QUOTE


it's just a software issue.
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Atomic Walrus said:
It's technically not actually a lack of CPU power. I mean that's the direct cause, but the deeper cause is a lack of GPU "acceleration" (kind of an old-fashioned term but it's more or less correct) of the OS's animation and rendering code. Windows did better according to Anand (I don't have an rMBP so I obviously can't test this) because it handles more of this work on the GPU.

This is what Mavericks is predicted (thanks to tester reports) to correct. Which is fortunate because a solution involving more raw CPU power would require 2x the single-threaded performance of Ivy to get consistent 60fps.
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Yeah I was wondering why I don't see nearly as many complaints about this issue with high res windows comps. Makes sense, it's lame that the software just wasn't optimized for it. The machine is 15 months old now and still has lag. Guess those early adopters really got boned lol. Although most don't seem to notice it. I for one, would hate it (I've tested it out many times in the store).
 
PDFierro said:
Because of IGZO? Simple: the Haswell rMBP just wouldn't have IGZO. Apple wouldn't hold the release back because of it. They would just put in the Broadwell rMBP.

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I know, seriously. It's getting ridiculous how many people are saying that we won't see the rMBP until next year or that Apple would actually skip Haswell.
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Yeah, I really doubt Apple would wait until next year to release the new rmbps. It's more understandable if they had done it for the iMacs last year, due to the whole friction-stirring welding thing, and other parts of the redesign. The rmbp will probably just have everything the MacBook Air got, so the only source of delay could be the haswell chips for the rmbp, and those shouldn't delay it until February 2014! Skipping Haswell would be crazy, because we don't even know if Broadwell will come out next year (I hope it does though) and their really wouldn't be any benefits.

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stevemiller said:
the new macbook pro: unapologetically plastic.
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Haha, you saw that Microsoft commercial too? That one was pretty funny, to be honest.
 
All I know is that the next rmbp is mine. dGPU or not. And the rmbp after that is probably mine too.
 
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