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Waiting for Haswell MBP Mega Thread
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Or maybe the event is on the 15th, and they take a week to observe how the orders do before Cook is prepared to make a more informed decision.
So this issue that is supposedly existed when the rMBPs were first launched... still exist even though all the updates have been released for OSX?
The OSX update that matters most is the one that will happen when OSX 10.9 is released, which will definitively fix the problem.
Have you tried out a rMBP in its current state, running 10.8? The "heinous" lag which has caused Apple users all over to write indignant letters to their congressmen is actually a pretty minor thing.
Should the user experience be better on a machine of this price? Oh, definitely. But this issue is, at worst, a minor annoyance to the few "regular people" who even notice it on their machines, and only becomes a world-ending deal-breaker/personal insult to the OCD-suffering nerds who frequent these forums.
(I include myself among said nerds, just to be clear.)
Ah, well. Let me just redirect you here (post #8002) and here (post #8576).
Already have my Samsung EVO 250GB SSD on the way, can't imagine how faster this already fast (7200RPM) system is going to be. ($375 + $165). Win!
So, essentially, you're still stalking this thread just to gloat about your new PC? That quite possibly might be the only thing more lame than desperately stalking this thread in hopes of a refreshed rMBP day after day.
Cool. Sounds like an expensive couple of years for you, eh?
I'll be able to get a good price if I sell the Haswell.
Whatever makes you feel better about the wait.
We all know this thread is Hotel California.
Whatever makes you feel better about the wait.
We all know this thread is Hotel California.
You check-in, and never check-out. Even you've bought a new computer and you still check out this thread.
Exactly!
As I've said before, (something Autrement overlooked),
#8684
I'm not going anywhere until I have an rMBP haswell in my hands.
One concern I have I must admit is that I've had my current MBP over 4 years now and I just changed the battery for the first time myself. The old battery when I opened the case had like exploded out of its shell. The cells.
Now obviously I should have replaced the battery about a year ago before it started to bulge but I found it hard to source a battery and Apples replacement program for machines without user serviceable batteries (like mine) costs £139 + A trip to your local Apple Store.
My local Apple store is quite far away, we are talking an entire day trip and lots of travel costs (about 1/3rd of the battery replacement itself is how much extra it would cost me just to get to the store).
With my current MacBook Pro I was fortunate enough to source a genuine Apple battery for my Notebook online for £109 from an iFixit kind of site in Europe which I could fit myself.
But with the Retina models the battery is glued in, you cannot remove it yourself without the risk of puncturing the battery cells to do so which could cause a fire.
This leaves me in a situation where 2-3 years after I get my Retina MacBook Pro I have to be without it to get it replaced, risk them damaging my laptop to get the old battery out of it due to that glue, pay £159 now for the privilege (15" even costs more to replace than my 17" does even though the 17" battery is bigger!) and I cannot do it myself even though I'm very technical and able to do it because the glue means I'm likely to cause myself injury while prying it off the chassis.
I have to say this really concerns me, I wish Apple at-least had a mail in way of doing it in Europe like they do in the United States because it would save me so much money. I'm looking at like a £200+ cost due to travel expenses just to change a consumable item that in my opinion should be user serviceable. If they had just kept it using screws instead of glue it would be user serviceable like the non-Retina notebooks.
I'm still going to buy a Haswell Retina MacBook Pro but I do have this complaint and I'm just hoping the new models do away with the anti-consumer glue and go back to screws, they took a lot of heat when the Retina was first announced (Remember the government EPA thing about it?) but it quickly died down and I just hope they reverse the glue decision.
Now obviously I should have replaced the battery about a year ago before it started to bulge but I found it hard to source a battery and Apples replacement program for machines without user serviceable batteries (like mine) costs £139 + A trip to your local Apple Store.
My local Apple store is quite far away, we are talking an entire day trip and lots of travel costs (about 1/3rd of the battery replacement itself is how much extra it would cost me just to get to the store).
With my current MacBook Pro I was fortunate enough to source a genuine Apple battery for my Notebook online for £109 from an iFixit kind of site in Europe which I could fit myself.
But with the Retina models the battery is glued in, you cannot remove it yourself without the risk of puncturing the battery cells to do so which could cause a fire.
This leaves me in a situation where 2-3 years after I get my Retina MacBook Pro I have to be without it to get it replaced, risk them damaging my laptop to get the old battery out of it due to that glue, pay £159 now for the privilege (15" even costs more to replace than my 17" does even though the 17" battery is bigger!) and I cannot do it myself even though I'm very technical and able to do it because the glue means I'm likely to cause myself injury while prying it off the chassis.
I have to say this really concerns me, I wish Apple at-least had a mail in way of doing it in Europe like they do in the United States because it would save me so much money. I'm looking at like a £200+ cost due to travel expenses just to change a consumable item that in my opinion should be user serviceable. If they had just kept it using screws instead of glue it would be user serviceable like the non-Retina notebooks.
I'm still going to buy a Haswell Retina MacBook Pro but I do have this complaint and I'm just hoping the new models do away with the anti-consumer glue and go back to screws, they took a lot of heat when the Retina was first announced (Remember the government EPA thing about it?) but it quickly died down and I just hope they reverse the glue decision.
This is what is bugs me and actually kept me from buying a rMBP earlier this year.
I suspect the bolded part of your post means that they'll continue to glue things, I don't think it's just Apple that are limiting what consumers can upgrade/service themselves but it's an extreme thing to do it with a battery as it's a consumable/perishable. - I can't see the argument for it.
If bottom case is still going to be accessible in some form anyway I can't understand gluing/soldering everything in. - It just puts me off buying it.
I'd of bought the new MBA if it wasn't for the fact the RAM is soldered in place.
Having not long come from the PC world where you can seemingly do whatever you want it's ever so restrictive and I can't see that improving.
I sort of hope they keep the non-rMBP alive and refresh it too.
Cool. Sounds like an expensive couple of years for you, eh?
Actually, upgrading every revision can be extremely cost effective if you're smart about it.
There's a law in the US that says the warranty on your car isn't void if you get your oil changed at Jiffy Lube instead of the dealership.
Perhaps there should be a similar law that says that batteries in consumer electronics should be user serviceable. The iPhone is one of the few smartphones I can think of where you can't just pop out the battery for a new one. MacBooks too are some of the only laptops where they make you jump through hoops to change the battery. Does Apple just have something against people changing their own batteries?
I can believe that!
As an OSX newbie I'm simply amazed at how well Apple products hold their value. I recently sold my first MB (09 white) and actually after owning it for over a year I only lost $50 off what I paid for it.
If you look at the newer MBP's for some reason there's huge demand for them, even if it's only a couple of $100 saving compared to buying a newer model from Apple.
Nexus 4 you can't either, it's just as locked down as an iPhone. Can't expand memory or switch the battery out like other Android phones. - I still own one anyway and I'm not alone. I don't know the numbers but it's must be one the best sellers this year after the S4 and HTC One X. - I suppose this proves the point that products that are unserviceable can still sell well.
Although I do think laptops are far worse for having batteries that deteriorate and there should be a way to change them without getting the manufacturer involved!
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Hello!
Hi guys, i'm sort of new to this forum, i've read it probably hundreds of times but never posted.
Now i'm sure you guys have seen this question hundreds of times, but theirs 108 pages in this thread lol.
Do you think they will be keeping the macbook pro non retina and refresh it with a haswell?
As much as the rMBP seems great, its just to much for me. Plus, I don't really like the fact you can't upgrade the parts unlike the non retina; ram and hdd. Those special ssd's are ridiculously expensive! Anyway, I stray from the question.
please let me know, i appreciate all your guy's input!
Hi guys, i'm sort of new to this forum, i've read it probably hundreds of times but never posted.
Now i'm sure you guys have seen this question hundreds of times, but theirs 108 pages in this thread lol.
Do you think they will be keeping the macbook pro non retina and refresh it with a haswell?
As much as the rMBP seems great, its just to much for me. Plus, I don't really like the fact you can't upgrade the parts unlike the non retina; ram and hdd. Those special ssd's are ridiculously expensive! Anyway, I stray from the question.
please let me know, i appreciate all your guy's input!
True. I've done pretty well with the iPhone over the years, and some of Apple's discounts make it easier to absorb the depreciation too.
Hi guys, i'm sort of new to this forum, i've read it probably hundreds of times but never posted.
Now i'm sure you guys have seen this question hundreds of times, but theirs 108 pages in this thread lol.
Do you think they will be keeping the macbook pro non retina and refresh it with a haswell?
As much as the rMBP seems great, its just to much for me. Plus, I don't really like the fact you can't upgrade the parts unlike the non retina; ram and hdd. Those special ssd's are ridiculously expensive! Anyway, I stray from the question.
please let me know, i appreciate all your guy's input!
I've been keeping tabs on this thread since about page 320 and from what I can tell nobody knows. There's reasoning to suggest they might drop it and just have a 'Pro' line of products MBP and MP but I don't think anyone actually knows.
Like you I hope they keep it, especially if rMBP are going to be stuck together with glue
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I've been keeping tabs on this thread since about page 320 and from what I can tell nobody knows. There's reasoning to suggest they might drop it and just have a 'Pro' line of products MBP and MP but I don't think anyone actually knows.
Like you I hope they keep it, especially if RBP are going to be stuck together with glue
I just ordered a 512GB SSD lol i was getting ready for that to come in, if they get rid of the non-retina..i'll cry. But not really. ...yea i will..
Hey guys, I'm just wondering what size rMBP you are going to get. I'm still trying to decide. I currently have a mid 2009 MBP 13" and while I like the 13" size, I wonder how nice a 15" would be. I'm a freshman in college studying electrical engineering and plan on keeping this laptop until at least I graduate. I have saved up a substantial amount of money from working so I can afford it, but a 13" would be about 1k cheaper which is attractive. Just looking for some input, thanks!
13 + external monitor or a 15.
Just looking at layouts alone is going to drive you insane on a 13"
15" rMBP for sure. I had the 17" throughout school and more screen real-estate provided simpler class participation by way of allowing me to swap between multiple apps at once while keeping them all visible. That 13" is a toy.
I am going for the 13" purely because I spend a lot of time traveling and on customer site. The 15" is a bit too big for me and I want a light laptop with a good screen. The MBA is very portable but the screen isn't as good as the rMBP.
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