Waiting for Haswell MBP Mega Thread

[KUguardgrl13]

Disagree -- if Apple goes 3x3 like they did with the new iMac, the increase in throughput on ac will be a boon to those of us that move large files over wireless.


My son is at Virginia Tech in engineering. They are required to have a Windows laptop, down to specific models and specific software suites. If that were not the case, he'd still be on the MBP I passed to him at the end of his junior year in high school to get "used to" before he hit college.

Checked on the KU Bookstore's website. Engineering majors can have macs, but they need to be able to dual boot into Windows. They also need a minimum of 4gb of RAM. Wouldn't be surprised if that changes in the next year or two.

I'm a history major, so all I need is base specs (i5, 8gb ram since you can't really get 4 anymore) except for drive space. I've already invested in Office for Mac, so it seems silly to buy a PC and related software when I graduate in 7 months (cue panic mode!!).

 

[Seventh7in]

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Yes, I could get by with a PC for Word and Google Chrome, but I chose to get a Mac. My parents and I agreed that it was a good investment to not have to take my computer to Geek Squad every few weeks to have viruses removed.

And on my campus I don't really see cheap PCs there are a few Dells but most of them tend to be Lenovo and higher end HPs. We're not a bunch of broke college kids, apparently (or mom and dad are willing to shell out the money for a higher quality machine that will hopefully last until graduation).

I think your salesman convinced you that you'd have to visit Geek Squad every few weeks to have virus removed on a Windows System..


I've been using this dell laptop (core 2, 2gb, 5400 hdd) for programming for the last couple years in uni and my custom built at home. Does it do the job? yes. The rMBP is a pure luxury item. A majority of students I see in class own MBA's and MBP's. The windows community is shrinking. I'm buying the rMBP on release day although I really contemplated the MBA this month. I'm a CS major who likes to play games, and edit photo/video.

 

[thadoggfather]

Haha, nice to see that one of the largest threads on MacRumours was considered unnecessary at it's inception.

Haha I noticed this thread EXPLODED the other day. I haven't been following it at all, interesting discussion in its 422 page span? I wouldn't know where to start.

 

[The Leafs Fan]

Checked on the KU Bookstore's website. Engineering majors can have macs, but they need to be able to dual boot into Windows. They also need a minimum of 4gb of RAM. Wouldn't be surprised if that changes in the next year or two.

I'm a history major, so all I need is base specs (i5, 8gb ram since you can't really get 4 anymore) except for drive space. I've already invested in Office for Mac, so it seems silly to buy a PC and related software when I graduate in 7 months (cue panic mode!!).

What version of Office is Microsoft selling for Mac now (ie. Office 2008)? Last time I checked it was Office 2011.

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Haha I noticed this thread EXPLODED the other day. I haven't been following it at all, interesting discussion in its 422 page span? I wouldn't know where to start.

Well, it's mostly it's been the old iGPU vs. discrete GPU debates, predicting what date it'll be announced, wondering if Thunderbolt 2 will be included in the new rmbps, comparing to Windows laptops, debating if Apple will include IGZO displays, price cuts, prices in different countries converted into American dollars, etc. It's been pretty interesting, but I'm sure there will be some better discussions to come.

 

[KUguardgrl13]

What version of Office is Microsoft selling for Mac now (ie. Office 2008)? Last time I checked it was Office 2011.

Still 2011. I would guess based on their pattern of releasing the Mac version a year after the Windows version that there will be a new one in 2014.

 

[yokken]

What version of Office is Microsoft selling for Mac now (ie. Office 2008)? Last time I checked it was Office 2011.

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Well, it's mostly it's been the old iGPU vs. discrete GPU debates, predicting what date it'll be announced, wondering if Thunderbolt 2 will be included in the new rmbps, comparing to Windows laptops, debating if Apple will include IGZO displays, price cuts, prices in different countries converted into American dollars, etc. It's been pretty interesting, but I'm sure there will be some better discussions to come.

I've got 2011 and I believe I read rumors that 2014 is going to be coming out in the Spring of 2014.

 

[The Leafs Fan]

Still 2011. I would guess based on their pattern of releasing the Mac version a year after the Windows version that there will be a new one in 2014.

I've got 2011 and I believe I read rumors that 2014 is going to be coming out in the Spring of 2014.

Well that's good for me, I'll be getting a copy of that next year when I get the Broadwell rmbp.

 

[ScubaCinci]

Well, this doesn't sound good if you (like me) think that Mavericks and the new MBP's will be announced/released concurrently

OS X Mavericks is on-track for release in the later half of October, and it will be available via the Mac App Store. Apple is yet to announce a release date or pricing information, but the company is holding an earnings conference call on October 28th. Historically, Apple has provided final release details for its new operating systems during the prepared remarks portions of these financial announcements.

SOURCE

 

[KUguardgrl13]

I think your salesman convinced you that you'd have to visit Geek Squad every few weeks to have virus removed on a Windows System..


I've been using this dell laptop (core 2, 2gb, 5400 hdd) for programming for the last couple years in uni and my custom built at home. Does it do the job? yes. The rMBP is a pure luxury item. A majority of students I see in class own MBA's and MBP's. The windows community is shrinking. I'm buying the rMBP on release day although I really contemplated the MBA this month. I'm a CS major who likes to play games, and edit photo/video.

It wasn't a salesman, just my opinion because of what I managed to do to our old HP running 95 and the Compaq running XP. Addictinggames.com was fun in middle school

I'd say Macs are popular because they aren't the virus magnets that PCs are, and a lot of college kids have been part of the ecosystem since getting an iPod in middle or high school. I know I wouldn't have looked at Macs if I hadn't had an iPod and several thousand songs in iTunes.

It also helped that the tech shop in the school bookstore when I was a freshman had Apple and Dell. Consumer Dells are awful. My former roommate had a dead hard drive two years in.

But seriously, what does it matter? We're all Apple fans here, and I'm allowed to buy whatever computer I want. I was originally just noting that Macs are popular on my campus, and a lot of my peers have cMBPs. I would expect to start seeing more rMBPs among the freshmen, but that doesn't seem to be the case. There aren't even a lot of MBAs. This was just one observance of a normal day in the union cafeteria though.

 

[Seventh7in]

It also helped that the tech shop in the school bookstore when I was a freshman had Apple and Dell. Consumer Dells are awful. My former roommate had a dead hard drive two years in.

When I ask my peers of why they purchased their apple system, I get a similar story.

The dead hard drive is most likely not manufactured by Dell and who knows if a replacement non-reputable branded hdd was installed. There are many variables that play a part in a failing hdd. Fact of the matter is, they don't make bad systems. I have a part time job where I see a little over a hundred windows machine being repaired on a weekly basis. And, windows isn't a virus magnet as some point it out to be. Are they easier to obtain to the average non-enthusiast user ? sure. But, with a very small amount of legwork..you can be malware free without having to spend a dime.

 

[KUguardgrl13]

When I ask my peers of why they purchased their apple system, I get a similar story.

The dead hard drive is most likely not manufactured by Dell and who knows if a replacement non-reputable branded hdd was installed. There are many variables that play a part in a failing hdd. Fact of the matter is, they don't make bad systems. I have a part time job where I see a little over a hundred windows machine being repaired on a weekly basis. And, windows isn't a virus magnet as some point it out to be. Are they easier to obtain to the average non-enthusiast user ? sure. But, with a very small amount of legwork..you can be malware free without having to spend a dime.

That may be the case now, but at this point after using a Mac for four years it's worth it to buy another so I don't have to buy a whole new set of software on top of the computer. And I wouldn't feel comfortable spending a whole lot less on a PC than what I plan on spending on a new rMBP. I also need to be able to access files on my current machine which won't boot, but they're intact in my Time Machine backup. For me, the ecosystem is worth the premium price.

 

[PDFierro]

I guess tomorrow will be very telling. Bring on the 15th!

 

[Ironsyde]

I guess tomorrow will be very telling. Bring on the 15th!

Doesn't the SEC quiet period mean that they're not going to release anything until after the investor conference? I would bet on the 29th.

 

[PDFierro]

I think the waiting will be longer.

With the upcoming IGZO display hysteria and the never ending delay of Intel's Thunderbolt2, my guess is that Apple decided to push the release back to spring 2014.

Aactually, the current models are not that bad. What's the point of just a pure CPU refresh. There has to be more, so it's better to wait for an early-mid 2014 model.

I really don't get why some people are continuing to suggest it won't be released until 2014. We don't need to explain how ridiculous that is.

 

[Poisonivy326]

For college students a rMBP would, in my opinion, be an unnecessary strain on both your wallet and your back. Unless your university has some specific demands for very intensive applications an i5 ULV should be much more than enough. The 13 inch Macbook Air is probably the best choice if you don't need to take many handwritten notes. If you do need handwritten notes (mathematics, physics, chemistry) a Haswell Windows 8 hybrid with a stylus is probably the best choice. OneNote has several advantages over both paper and its Android competition.

The rMBP has many great features, but I think of it more as a luxury product bought because of desire than I think of it as serving any particular function better than its competition. I guess the resolution offers the potential of an enormous workspace on the go, but I don't think many people use it that way.

If I were a parent I would NOT spend $2000+ on a computer when I know that one drunken night and a spilled beer = all that money wasted.

Agree that the MBA is a good choice for college kids.

 

[PDFierro]

It wasn't a salesman, just my opinion because of what I managed to do to our old HP running 95 and the Compaq running XP. Addictinggames.com was fun in middle school

I'd say Macs are popular because they aren't the virus magnets that PCs are, and a lot of college kids have been part of the ecosystem since getting an iPod in middle or high school. I know I wouldn't have looked at Macs if I hadn't had an iPod and several thousand songs in iTunes.

It also helped that the tech shop in the school bookstore when I was a freshman had Apple and Dell. Consumer Dells are awful. My former roommate had a dead hard drive two years in.

But seriously, what does it matter? We're all Apple fans here, and I'm allowed to buy whatever computer I want. I was originally just noting that Macs are popular on my campus, and a lot of my peers have cMBPs. I would expect to start seeing more rMBPs among the freshmen, but that doesn't seem to be the case. There aren't even a lot of MBAs. This was just one observance of a normal day in the union cafeteria though.

Yeah, I could get by using Windows too. And I'd save a grand. But I would be giving up so much. There goes all my OS X-exclusive applications, not to mention my productivity going right out the window. Windows is an OS I absolutely hate using.

I don't get why people are trying to tell people to go Windows on here. People obviously go with Macs for a reason.

 

[Lula5Nash]

I see. Interesting, I haven't been following it quite well but I know power efficiency was at least a part of the hype.

 

[Starfyre]

Doesn't the SEC quiet period mean that they're not going to release anything until after the investor conference? I would bet on the 29th.

Its okay if they don't release, but if they at least announce when they will be available like the 5s, that would at least give us a solid date.

 

[warplane95]

If I were a parent I would NOT spend $2000+ on a computer when I know that one drunken night and a spilled beer = all that money wasted.

Agree that the MBA is a good choice for college kids.

i'm in first year in mechinical engineering and the mbp is not enough powerfull for me. so I wait for haswell rmbp

 

[KUguardgrl13]

If I were a parent I would NOT spend $2000+ on a computer when I know that one drunken night and a spilled beer = all that money wasted.

Agree that the MBA is a good choice for college kids.

College kids are NOT the only people who have drunken nights. Even if we are, you learn not to be stupid enough to leave your laptop lying around no matter how much it costs.

So my parents spend right around $1200 on my mid-2009. If it had broken in a drunken escapade they were not going to just buy me a new one. However, it broke because of age, and I'm grateful they're willing to buy another one. They did the same thing when the screen on my brother's Compaq quit working.

It honestly depends on the kid. There are people on this forum willing to give their toddlers iPhones and iPads. While less expensive than a Mac, I'd say the investment is more if it breaks. At least you used to be able to replace parts on a Mac when it broke. Not so much anymore.

 

[smoking monkey]

troll harder

Was Bruce Willis in that? I think I saw it.

 

[KUguardgrl13]

I don't get why people are trying to tell people to go Windows on here. People obviously go with Macs for a reason.

THANK YOU! This is an Apple fan forum. It's cool if we compare PCs with equal specs and comparable price, but you're not going to convince many people here to not get the new rMBP whenever Apple decides to give it to us. I don't think it should matter whether you're 22 or 62 (or somewhere in between). Get what you're willing to pay for and be happy with it.

Fingers crossed for news tomorrow!

 

[Agent-P]

I think your salesman convinced you that you'd have to visit Geek Squad every few weeks to have virus removed on a Windows System..

I agree that for users like us getting a virus on a Windows system is pretty rare since we use common sense and take precautions against it. And even for regular consumers, they don't fall for the old tricks like spam emails (mostly due to better email filtering) and clicking random ads as much as they used to. Yes, it is still possible to get viruses/malware/etc. on Windows (and OSX for that matter), but it isn't as easy as it used to be (unless you're just super dumb with your internet usage habits).

I've been using this dell laptop (core 2, 2gb, 5400 hdd) for programming for the last couple years in uni and my custom built at home. Does it do the job? yes. The rMBP is a pure luxury item. A majority of students I see in class own MBA's and MBP's. The windows community is shrinking. I'm buying the rMBP on release day although I really contemplated the MBA this month. I'm a CS major who likes to play games, and edit photo/video.

I have a Sony VAIO that's a few years old and I've never had trouble with it. In fact, I could get by with just this as my only computer, but I want a rMBP/OSX (I've only ever owned the cMBP and MBA in the past).

 

[Koulie]

I know ScubaCinci has already eluded to the likely release of Mavericks on 29th October based on the 9to5mac article, but it seems no one noticed his post because there are so many posts flooding the thread

To summarise:

• Financial Call on 28th October, Mavericks will likely release the following day
• No invites sent for Apple Event thus far today, 22nd October likely candidate

My speculation is 22nd October Apple Event for new products. Retina Macbook Pro may be announced and ship following week with Mavericks. My 2 cents.

 

[Poisonivy326]

College kids are NOT the only people who have drunken nights. Even if we are, you learn not to be stupid enough to leave your laptop lying around no matter how much it costs.

So my parents spend right around $1200 on my mid-2009. If it had broken in a drunken escapade they were not going to just buy me a new one. However, it broke because of age, and I'm grateful they're willing to buy another one. They did the same thing when the screen on my brother's Compaq quit working.

It honestly depends on the kid. There are people on this forum willing to give their toddlers iPhones and iPads. While less expensive than a Mac, I'd say the investment is more if it breaks. At least you used to be able to replace parts on a Mac when it broke. Not so much anymore.

iPads are "family things" where kids play games and when they go to bed parents get to use. I can understand buying an iPad so my child can play angry birds and watch movies.

I DON'T see why any college age kid needs a quad-core maxed out 15" rMBP to write papers and take notes in class. And yes I understand that you don't have to be in college to spill beer on your laptop but I'm saying the average college kid is more likely to be careless about stuff like that. Again this is just my opinion but I think the Macbook Airs are much more friendly to the college population. I just think the 15" rMBP is overkill for most college students.