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I'm waiting since the Haswell MBA announcement to buy a Haswell rMBP and really want a new computer now because the slow harddrive of my 2012 mac mini is killing me while i work with lots of photos in Lightroom and i seriously need a portable computer to show my work to clients. Bought 4 different MBA configurations in the meantime but returned all of them because of different issues like uneven hinge or faulty graphics adapter. Also i was fed up with the MBA TN-panel. I don't want to wait any longer so i'm trying to get the current rMBP for a good value. I'm living in Germany and a well known online-store has a sale for a certain rMBP configuration:

Apple MacBook Pro 13,3" Retina 2,5 GHz i5 8 GB RAM 768 GB SSD BTO

It's listed at 2034,- € brand new. Same configuration is 2399,- € at the apple online-store. Do you guys think this is a good deal? I really like to have lots of storage space so i don't have to carry an external hard-drive with me and the 768 GB SSD has always been out of reach with my budget, but this one i could afford. I know i should wait to get the Intel 5000 for my graphics and photo related work but on the other hand the Intel 4000 in my mac mini has always treated me well. What do you think?
 
fpvs said:
I'm waiting since the Haswell MBA announcement to buy a Haswell rMBP and really want a new computer now because the slow harddrive of my 2012 mac mini is killing me while i work with lots of photos in Lightroom and i seriously need a portable computer to show my work to clients. Bought 4 different MBA configurations in the meantime but returned all of them because of different issues like uneven hinge or faulty graphics adapter. Also i was fed up with the MBA TN-panel. I don't want to wait any longer so i'm trying to get the current rMBP for a good value. I'm living in Germany and a well known online-store has a sale for a certain rMBP configuration:

Apple MacBook Pro 13,3" Retina 2,5 GHz i5 8 GB RAM 768 GB SSD BTO

It's listed at 2034,- € brand new. Same configuration is 2399,- € at the apple online-store. Do you guys think this is a good deal? I really like to have lots of storage space so i don't have to carry an external hard-drive with me and the 768 GB SSD has always been out of reach with my budget, but this one i could afford. I know i should wait to get the Intel 5000 for my graphics and photo related work but on the other hand the Intel 4000 in my mac mini has always treated me well. What do you think?
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On behalf of every other poster on this thread:

Wait.
 
gutierrezdev said:
Very difficult times waiting for the refresh :(. Really want to throw away my HP Laptop.
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I'm with you. I sporting this ghetto-ass laptop literally being held together by butterfly clips because I pulled the metal frame up - this was back in Feb in my excitement to get rid of 'that crappy laptop'. I have over $7000 of Apple money just waiting to be spent in my ING account and wish apple can hurry up and release the damn kraken.

Maybe the reason I'm so realistic and not buying into any more rumors is I have been fooled many times.

These days, I'm just expecting the worst - which is nothing. Don't expect anything this month or even this year. If it happens, be happy and place that order.
 
Raised my credit card limit to 3000 EUR - check.
Scanned my teacher identity card - check.
Standing by...
Standing by...
Standing by...
Hm...
Guess I'll perform an App Nap and wake up again next tuesday...

(Goddammit, why is it taking ********ng Apple taking so long to release a ********ng new MBPr?! Quite sure the guys in the Apple HQ laugh their a**es off every hour when they check the new posts in this thread. ARGH!)
 
xnor said:
Raised my credit card limit to 3000 EUR - check.
Scanned my teacher identity card - check.
Standing by...
Standing by...
Standing by...
Hm...
Guess I'll perform an App Nap and wake up again next tuesday...

(Goddammit, why is it taking ********ng Apple taking so long to release a ********ng new MBPr?! Quite sure the guys in the Apple HQ laugh their a**es off every hour when they check the new posts in this thread. ARGH!)
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I'm glad my debit card has always come with a 3 grand daily purchase limit. I remember the days when I used other banks and the limit was always 1 grand. Pissed me off. And when I went to buy a new laptop, the bank wouldn't budget on raising the limit.
 
Not too terribly concerned about Haswell myself, I'm waiting to see if it will have a dedicated GPU or not. If it doesn't I'll buy the current model instead over the IRIS gfx. I mean, what besides 802.11ac and a small speed bump is worth losing dGPU for?
 
Ursadorable said:
Not too terribly concerned about Haswell myself, I'm waiting to see if it will have a dedicated GPU or not. If it doesn't I'll buy the current model instead over the IRIS gfx. I mean, what besides 802.11ac and a small speed bump is worth losing dGPU for?
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Depends how bad your uses demand a dGPU that Iris Pro isn't qualified for.
 
PDFierro said:
I'm glad my debit card has always come with a 3 grand daily purchase limit.
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I initially had a higher limit, but decided to lower it after some internet casino got hold of my credit card number and charged me hundreds of $ for nothing. Got it all back, but I got careful anyway...

BTT:
Why Apple, why?!?

(Playing: Queen - "I want it all")
 
Ursadorable said:
Ever run into Windows games that won't run unless it detects an nVidia or AMD gpu?
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So you basically want a dGPU for gaming? Macs aren't really the best platform for that. You could always get an iMac.

I can see someone needing a dGPU for some really high-end professional work, if it demanded that. But a dGPU just so it can run the latest high-end games is not really a necessity on a Pro machine.
 
[Insert comment about no silent refresh today = something big in store for the rMBP]

[Insert comment about Oct event != rMBP surprise]

[Insert comment about how Oct event is purely speculation]

[Insert inconclusive and/or unrelated post while Haswell != available]
 
xnor said:
(Goddammit, why is it taking ********ng Apple taking so long to release a ********ng new MBPr?! Quite sure the guys in the Apple HQ laugh their a**es off every hour when they check the new posts in this thread. ARGH!)
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^This. I've been without a working laptop for two weeks, and I'm sick of the Geniuses who are just doing temporary fixes to humor me and are probably laughing at me in the back whenever I say "just keep it working until the refresh!" Seriously, I have work to do, and I refuse to give in and buy what's currently available just yet. If October goes by with nothing I'll reconsider.
 
PDFierro said:
So you basically want a dGPU for gaming? Macs aren't really the best platform for that. You could always get an iMac.

I can see someone needing a dGPU for some really high-end professional work, if it demanded that. But a dGPU just so it can run the latest high-end games is not really a necessity on a Pro machine.
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I like the get the latest/greatest and have tended to purchase Dell desktops with latest graphics cards et al. Truth be told, I never needed them and it was just a sales tactic. I rarely play games and when I did, it was the Sims or Caesar II(did not like the battles, though).

Caesar II was an awesome game. SimTower was great, too. Do they still make games like those?
 
PDFierro said:
So you basically want a dGPU for gaming? Macs aren't really the best platform for that. You could always get an iMac.

I can see someone needing a dGPU for some really high-end professional work, if it demanded that. But a dGPU just so it can run the latest high-end games is not really a necessity on a Pro machine.
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Mac's (especially the MBP) are the best "All Purpose" computers. OS X and Windows, runs everything. Also suggesting an iMac as an alternative for a laptop is a headscratcher. Wouldn't fit in my backpack all that well.
 
Ursadorable said:
Mac's (especially the MBP) are the best "All Purpose" computers. OS X and Windows, runs everything. Also suggesting an iMac as an alternative for a laptop is a headscratcher. Wouldn't fit in my backpack all that well.
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Yeah, I know. I just think needing a dGPU for gaming is more of a luxury than anything else. I was under the impression that all of this pro-dGPU talk in this thread was actually about needing it for productivity programs.
 
Agent-P said:
I would say if you can, use both (I go down this route). For Word you can get by just fine with Parallels (even if you allocate a small amount of RAM to that VM). For PS, I'm not sure how large your projects get at any given moment, but I prefer to use Bootcamp for that so my resources aren't being split between OS X and Windows. But for small projects and/or quick touch ups, you could use Parallels for that (if you allocate a decent amount of RAM).
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But shouldn't the mac part go idle when I use the win side of its brain?
Especially with mavericks? Or did I get that wrong?
If I do PS, which is not as often as LR, I don't do anything else.

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mneblett said:
I originally used Bootcamp, but switched to Parallels. Much more convenient (no need to shutdown/reboot to switch between OS's), and MUCH handier to have instant access to both Windows and OSX programs and to be able to move files/data between the two systems, all while having the OSX desktop only one or two clicks away. I doubt I'll ever use Bootcamp again.
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That sounds very comfortable. I like comfortable. But how about Parallels forcing you to upgrade quite often?

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fpvs said:
I'm waiting since the Haswell MBA announcement to buy a Haswell rMBP and really want a new computer now because the slow harddrive of my 2012 mac mini is killing me while i work with lots of photos in Lightroom and i seriously need a portable computer to show my work to clients. Bought 4 different MBA configurations in the meantime but returned all of them because of different issues like uneven hinge or faulty graphics adapter. Also i was fed up with the MBA TN-panel. I don't want to wait any longer so i'm trying to get the current rMBP for a good value. I'm living in Germany and a well known online-store has a sale for a certain rMBP configuration:

Apple MacBook Pro 13,3" Retina 2,5 GHz i5 8 GB RAM 768 GB SSD BTO

It's listed at 2034,- € brand new. Same configuration is 2399,- € at the apple online-store. Do you guys think this is a good deal? I really like to have lots of storage space so i don't have to carry an external hard-drive with me and the 768 GB SSD has always been out of reach with my budget, but this one i could afford. I know i should wait to get the Intel 5000 for my graphics and photo related work but on the other hand the Intel 4000 in my mac mini has always treated me well. What do you think?
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Is it the well known store itself that is selling it or some subseller with one or two reviews? Be carefuo, this sounds a little too good to be true.

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Ursadorable said:
Mac's (especially the MBP) are the best "All Purpose" computers. OS X and Windows, runs everything. Also suggesting an iMac as an alternative for a laptop is a headscratcher. Wouldn't fit in my backpack all that well.
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Then you definitely need a bigger backpack. :D
 
GSPice said:
Of course it does. There's plenty to infer and speculate without being legalistic*, which I realize is your strong point.

*not intended in a derogatory sense.
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The timing of the Mavericks release really tells us exactly zero about the timing of the Haswell MBP release. Thinking otherwise is pure wishful thinking.

KUguardgrl13 said:
As others have said about lots of things, people on this forum care about say, 10.9.1 compared to 10.9.0. But the average consumer doesn't, especially those coming from Windows.
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Point well taken. +1
 
fpvs said:
I'm waiting since the Haswell MBA announcement to buy a Haswell rMBP and really want a new computer now because the slow harddrive of my 2012 mac mini is killing me while i work with lots of photos in Lightroom and i seriously need a portable computer to show my work to clients. Bought 4 different MBA configurations in the meantime but returned all of them because of different issues like uneven hinge or faulty graphics adapter. Also i was fed up with the MBA TN-panel. I don't want to wait any longer so i'm trying to get the current rMBP for a good value. I'm living in Germany and a well known online-store has a sale for a certain rMBP configuration:

Apple MacBook Pro 13,3" Retina 2,5 GHz i5 8 GB RAM 768 GB SSD BTO

It's listed at 2034,- € brand new. Same configuration is 2399,- € at the apple online-store. Do you guys think this is a good deal? I really like to have lots of storage space so i don't have to carry an external hard-drive with me and the 768 GB SSD has always been out of reach with my budget, but this one i could afford. I know i should wait to get the Intel 5000 for my graphics and photo related work but on the other hand the Intel 4000 in my mac mini has always treated me well. What do you think?
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I'm sorry, but anything over $2000 for a Dual-core with only hd4000 is 100% a rip off.
 
Gilmore Girl said:
But shouldn't the mac part go idle when I use the win side of its brain?
Especially with mavericks? Or did I get that wrong?
If I do PS, which is not as often as LR, I don't do anything else
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Before selling my Mac, I was using an older version of Parallels and Snow Leopard. So for me it didn't handle its resources as efficiently as more recent versions would. I believe with a newer version of Parallels and Mavericks it should, theoretically, work the way you described. Upon quickly looking at the Parallels website, they don't specifically say anything about this subject, just the usual "more efficient, more powerful, etc.".

If anyone knows anything more specific about this (Parallels and Mavericks combo), then I'd like to know whether or not it actually does work the way Gilmore described.
 
PDFierro said:
I can see someone needing a dGPU for some really high-end professional work, if it demanded that. But a dGPU just so it can run the latest high-end games is not really a necessity on a Pro machine.
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It's a moot point. Go back two or three months in this thread; people have already thoroughly debunked the idea that a new MacBook Pro would come with anything other than Iris Pro.
 
PDFierro said:
I'm glad my debit card has always come with a 3 grand daily purchase limit. I remember the days when I used other banks and the limit was always 1 grand. Pissed me off. And when I went to buy a new laptop, the bank wouldn't budget on raising the limit.
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Not to turn this into a financial advice board, but do not use your debit card to make big ticket purchases. In fact, do not use your debit card to make ANY purchases at all. Debit cards do not protect you against fraudulent activity or shady merchants.

I use my credit cards for all purchases - big and small - but pay them off every month to avoid carrying a balance, paying interest and/or finance charges.

If you make a debit card purchase on an item and have problems with it and the merchant is being difficult, all you have to say is 'chargeback' and they'll act quickly. If it was a debit card purchase, you have no protection.
 
sarakn said:
Not to turn this into a financial advice board, but do not use your debit card to make big ticket purchases. In fact, do not use your debit card to make ANY purchases at all. Debit cards do not protect you against fraudulent activity or shady merchants.

I use my credit cards for all purchases - big and small - but pay them off every month to avoid carrying a balance, paying interest and/or finance charges.

If you make a debit card purchase on an item and have problems with it and the merchant is being difficult, all you have to say is 'chargeback' and they'll act quickly. If it was a debit card purchase, you have no protection.
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Visa Debit cards have a similar form of protection.

http://www.moneysavingexpert.com/shopping/visa-mastercard-chargeback
 
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