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Hmmm...this prediction from Sep 11 nailed the date AND speaks of the MBP release - http://currenteditorials.com/2013/09/11/round-two-apples-october-event/

The Mac line has not been forgotten, as the late-2013 editions of the Macbook Pro and Mac Mini will be announced during the event, according to our sources. Both computers will receive Intel’s Haswell processors as part of their update. Apple is also expected to announce a release date for the Mac Pro during the October event. The Mac Pro is expected to be available before December.
 
Hmmm...this prediction from Sep 11 nailed the date AND speaks of the MBP release - http://currenteditorials.com/2013/09/11/round-two-apples-october-event/

I have to admit that it's interesting that they specifically mentioned the Mini and rMBP but not the iMac, which obviously won't be part of the event since it's now already been refreshed. Either there was a source or this is a case of infinite monkeys (if enough people make up predictions one of them is bound to get everything pretty much right).
 
Yeah, if it was good enough for the Air, why shouldn't be for the Pro?

The MacBook Airs are a great machine. You should buy one. Apple's profit margin is significantly higher and the Air completely satisfies the needs of 75% of the Pro base. We wait for a reason. And it isn't IGZO or Thunderbolt 2.
 
It's not just an updated processor... there is also the inclusion of 802.11ac WiFi, PCI-E flash storage, and POTENTIALLY Thunderbolt 2.

Oh really, and can you or the infamous avg. consumer really make use of any of those new "upgrades" yet. NO!

802.11ac
You won't find any 802.11ac access points near you or in public places/universities etc. (Yes, you can optionally buy a 802.11ac router from apple, but think big here... how many apple customers will buy a new router together with a Haswell MBP, only a tiny fraction. Will you buy a 802.11ac TimeMachine with your new Haswell rMBP?)

It will take at least 2 years before 802.11ac will be widely available.

PCI-E
How will you or the avg. consumer benefit from it. Oh right, boot times will be like 1 second faster...

Thunderbolt 2 <-- LOL :p

Show me any TB2 hardware currently available (and affordable) on the market, please. THERE ISN'T. Who on earth needs TB2 if you can't use it yet? :confused:
 
As I've mentioned before, the leap of haswell alone wasn't good enough. Apple decided to add more arguments, like IGZO display, thinner body, battery status display, IR interface... I don't know... but my guess is that just putting a haswell cpu into the old MBPs wasn't innovative enough for Apple this year. The current MBP are perfectly fine for the upcoming holiday season. Again, I'm not trolling.

If this is your reasoning for postponing the release of the Haswell MBP, how does this logic support the fact that Apple bothered to release a new iMac last week? It is, for all intents and purposes, a very minor refresh. And yet, lo and behold, it happened just the same.

What would prevent Apple from doing the same with the MBP?
 
The MacBook Airs are a great machine. You should buy one. Apple's profit margin is significantly higher and the Air completely satisfies the needs of 75% of the Pro base. We wait for a reason. And it isn't IGZO or Thunderbolt 2.

Lol love the statistics..
MBA is definitely not up to par with many of my friends "Pro" standards. Lets make that a 100%.
 
802.11ac
Will you buy a 802.11ac TimeMachine with your new Haswell rMBP?)
Already did :D

It will take at least 2 years before 802.11ac will be widely available.
I intend to have this machine for at least as long as my current MBP (5 yrs). Even if it takes 2 yrs for ac to become widespread, I won't need any upgrade to use it -- and in the meantime my life will be nicer in daily transfers over my own network.

Thunderbolt 2 <-- LOL :p

Who on earth needs TB2 if you can't use it yet? :confused:
Because 4K hi-res monitors are nearly here, and TB2 will provide sufficient bandwidth to let me use my MBP for several years in a "docked" configuration along with other peripherals with no need to worry about ever having to upgrade early due to bandwidth issues.

Just because you don't have a use for a feature, doesn't mean others don't.



Da*n, fed the troll again!
 
I tried going that route. I'm a consultant and travel every week so I thought I had a few options to avoid taxes. Guess not! I live in Illinois, but work in Minnesota. Both states charge tax. I can fly to California or New York to visit family, but the sales tax is more in all those states. Funny enough, the place with the least amount of tax is Chicago.

Hmm, gives me an idea. Maybe I can drive to Indiana to pick it up. Guess not - sales tax is higher there and gas would cost more. LOL.

I live in Kansas, so it's 8.85% if I have it shipped to me or 8.5% if I go to the nearest Apple Store. My parents live in Maryland where it's only 6%

Where in MN? I lived in a suburb of Minneapolis in high school :)
 
Hey now not all Apple Store employees are like that! I guess I'm the 1 time out of 10 because I'm an Apple Store employee and I would like to think I'm pretty intelligent when it comes to Apple products and technology in general. As far as future products, we all frequent MacRumors because the top dogs in Cupertino don't give us any inside information :rolleyes:

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Apple Store employees don't get much inside information. We get part numbers in advance but we don't know what exactly they correspond to until we open the boxes.

I love it when I get that one out of ten. I can talk to him/her for hours. They certainly exist. Now...I must say when I have a problem and I make a Genious bar appointment, they have been EXTREMLEY helpful and that bar is the greatest service on earth. I have had many items swapped out or fixed, they have guided me thru procedures like wiping my HD and reinstalling etc and once when iMovie came out for the iPhone I couldn't figure it out and a Genius sat with me for an hour and made a movie with me. So there's that. But often times I go in there and it's instantly apparent that I'm talking to the wrong person
 
Well the new products wouldn't actually be released before it. They would come after. Announcing and releasing are two different things.

I'm putting my money on the rMBP being announced on the 22nd, but available starting the 29th. But anything can happen.

29th now for the rMBP ? :(
Well damn!!
 
Oh really, and can you or the infamous avg. consumer really make use of any of those new "upgrades" yet. NO!

802.11ac
You won't find any 802.11ac access points near you or in public places/universities etc. (Yes, you can optionally buy a 802.11ac router from apple, but think big here... how many apple customers will buy a new router together with a Haswell MBP, only a tiny fraction. Will you buy a 802.11ac TimeMachine with your new Haswell rMBP?)

It will take at least 2 years before 802.11ac will be widely available.

PCI-E
How will you or the avg. consumer benefit from it. Oh right, boot times will be like 1 second faster...

Thunderbolt 2 <-- LOL :p

Show me any TB2 hardware currently available (and affordable) on the market, please. THERE ISN'T. Who on earth needs TB2 if you can't use it yet? :confused:

1. I already have an 802.11ac router (ASUS RT-AC66U) and there are already plenty of devices that support it, including my HTC One. 802.11ac would be pointless at a coffee shop or any public place -- I don't know about you, but I don't do large wireless file transfers anywhere but home or a friend/coworker's house.

2. PCI-E SSD performance gains over SATA3 (6Gbps) are substantial. SATA3 SSDs have mostly peaked at 550MB/s reads and writes, whereas the new PCI-E storage has peaked at over 800MB/s reads and 700MB/s writes. If you're using your main drive for video editing, the extra speed helps with the swaps. It will take a Thunderbolt SSD array to truly tax the speed, but an improvement is an improvement. Period. See this link for more information.

3. There may not be many (if any) Thunderbolt 2 peripherals available at the current moment, but there will be in the next year or two.

To negate the argument of "almost nothing has x right now" -- some of us like to buy a laptop that is prepared for the future. I plan on keeping my rMBP for 3-5 years and want it to support all of the newest standards so I'm not stuck behind.

I don't know why you're in this thread if you can't see the benefit of any of the new technologies and how they apply to a "professional" laptop. Something tells me you're in it to say you have the newest, shiniest Apple product -- but that's your prerogative.
 
I don't know folks... the blogs reporting that 22nd Oct event are all avoiding the words, "MacBook Pro" like the entire line was discontinued and we missed it. :eek: No respect. (bastards)

And I refuse to buy into this "silent update" crap. If the MBA can get a few minutes live so too will the MBP's. Why in gods name would Apple not squeeze this into the event? Are they renting the room?

Rest easy compatriots. Patience. It's all a trick. Smoke and mirrors. Good things they-are-a-coming.
 
I don't know folks... the blogs reporting that 22nd Oct event are all avoiding the words, "MacBook Pro" like the entire line was discontinued and we missed it. :eek: No respect. (bastards)

And I refuse to buy into this "silent update" crap. If the MBA can get a few minutes live so too will the MBP's. Why in gods name would Apple not squeeze this into the event? Are they renting the room?

Rest easy compatriots. Patience. It's all a trick. Smoke and mirrors. Good things they-are-a-coming.

I really would not put stock into the reports not mentioning the MBPs.
 
I don't know folks... the blogs reporting that 22nd Oct event are all avoiding the words, "MacBook Pro" like the entire line was discontinued and we missed it. :eek: No respect. (bastards)

And I refuse to buy into this "silent update" crap. If the MBA can get a few minutes live so too will the MBP's. Why in gods name would Apple not squeeze this into the event? Are they renting the room?

Rest easy compatriots. Patience. It's all a trick. Smoke and mirrors. Good things they-are-a-coming.

I think it's mostly because the MBP line has been largely forgotten to consumers when the latest and greatest gadgets are iPads and iPhones. MBPs are sort of an afterthought...
 
Some person(s) at Apple are undoubtedly deriving indescribable Schadenfreude from this thread.
 
Well, AllThingsD says that October 22 is an iPad event. You can read it here.

Let's hope there is some love for Mavericks and the MBPrs too.

-P

PS - That is also the day the Surface 2 is released...
 
Well, to add fuel to the fire, here's my latest (MBP-related) discussion topic:

With all the other competitor IGZO Haswell announcements the last week or so, I'm wondering whether the delay in releasing the MBP's to around the end of this month is deliberate -- in the sense that it will allow Apple to "trump" everyone else at the end of the "release season" by presenting a screen with higher resolution than anyone else ("we can't let them take our hi-res crown!").

Even with the same dpi as the other IGZO screen offerings, a 16x10 screen would have more pixels than a 16x9, allowing Apple to keep the bragging rights in their camp.

Soooo -- maybe an IGZO MBP after all???

Debate. :D
 
Yesterday I found $1.26 behind my wife's dresser. :eek:

Seriously. After 11,000 posts, what more can be said (not said) about Haswell in the MBP's?

But you haven't used real money for about 2 years so you won't need that $1.26. I'll take it off your hands! Every little bit helps in the Haswell Fund!
 
I think the most difficult pill to swallow will be if they just release a MacBook Pro Retina with just Haswell and WiFi update...I am hoping the wait has been justified...just to see a massive improvement come in Q1 next year (with IGZO and TB2, etc) would really frustrate folks...but then this could happen as it at least gives them something to sell during the holiday...
 
http://www.cnet.com/8301-13579_3-57606589-37/apples-ipad-event-reportedly-set-for-october-22/

Cnet isn't ruling out the possibility of an rMBP or a Mac Mini announcement at the event. Could be more speculation though.

But honestly why would Apple abandon one of their best selling computers and refresh the Mac Pro which doesn't have huge sales? Makes no sense at all. MBPs (retina and non) are one of the most popular laptops I've seen the last few years.
 
OK, a raise of hands. Who is absolutely without a doubt ordering the second/day they are made available? I know there are some on here who are going to wait a few days, or even weeks.

I'm in the group that is no matter what going to order right away.
 
OK, a raise of hands. Who is absolutely without a doubt ordering the second/day they are made available? I know there are some on here who are going to wait a few days, or even weeks.

I'm in the group that is no matter what going to order right away.

Ordering the second the page is up. I'm so ready.
 
I'm pretty sure you can because I read up on it in an article somewhere a couple of months ago. At least tell me if I was close to being right.

Honestly no I can't say anything, any of our discount, promotions, etc are Apple confidential. Yeah stuff gets put in articles and online but anything that an employee divulges can be grounds for termination. Just cause it's online doesn't mean it's true/not true. The community always knows mostly what's going to go into each iPhone, iPad, etc., but you never hear someone from Apple corporate coming out saying it's all true...they would lose their job. I happen to like my job :)
 
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