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The laptop I don't use, but own, is a Lenovo Thinkpad T43. I hate it! It's slow, buggier than all get out, drops the wifi connection regularly and takes forever to boot. Every time I turn it on after a month or two I get to look forward to at least half an hour of Microsoft security and bug fix updates.
The Thinkpad T43 is also an ancient computer. I own a four year old Macbook Pro. I can tell you that it has more crashes than all the Windows 7 machines in the house put together. Most of the problems are due the old age of the laptop, not any fundamental flaw in OS X or the Macbook design. Software in OS X also requires software updates, as does OS X itself. Luckily, the most modern operating systems keep software updates mostly in the background. You will be asked by the App Store or the software itself for you to update it. Then it keeps itself mostly in the background. Updates like this are no more of a problem in the two newest versions of Windows than they are in OS X, at least in my experience. Nothing is going to be as bad as Vista, for instance.

One thing I do like about it is the fingerprint scanner. It is nice to just swipe my finger to turn the unit on. I can swipe and go and come back in 10 minutes when it's finished booting (literally). If the new rMBP has that feature,everybody will love it.
Windows 8 is probably the quickest booting operating system around, at least provided you have an SSD. However, I think most people just put their laptops into sleep mode so it shouldn't matter too much.
But I miss having a laptop I want to use. So I was excited several months ago when I decided to buy an Apple laptop. I was almost ready to buy an Air when they went to Haswell but because I do so much photo and video stuff I decided I needed a Retina screen.

So I am waiting like the rest of you and chomping at the bit.

Apple is so different from MS. MS rushes crappy stuff out and everybody dreads the updates and puts off upgrading as long as they can. Apple takes their time and gets everyone in a frenzy. My second Apple purchase after my Ipod was two shares of Apple stock.
This depends on who you ask. Plenty of people that I run into dislike the update from iOS 6 to iOS 7. I know that several buggy features have been introduced in paid OS X updates. The fullscreen mode in OS X has been horrible for multiple monitors since it was introduced, and it will require another paid update to be fixed. I've had programs that stopped working completely after upgrading from one version of OS X to another, if I recall correctly it was the Lion update.
The problem with buying a haswell rMBP this month...is going to be how frustrating it will be when they announce the IGZO MBPs. My iPad 1 is basically useless now and my Ipad 3 is getting more and more obsolete with each new iPad.

It's easier on the wallet in the PC world to upgrade sooner because you can build your own systems with the new technology almost as soon as it comes out.

I just bought a Seagate external 4tb hard drive that claims to offer both Mac and PC accessibility. It is all filled now with music, videos, and photos waiting to be used on the new rMBP.

Can anybody recommend a thread or forum filled with people who switched from PCs to Macs? Any tips or websites I should know about that will help me prepare?

Thanks for reading all this!

I'm someone who uses both Macs and PCs. My main laptop has been a Macbook Pro for the last few years. The biggest advantage for me is that Apple's laptop hardware is very nice. In the four years I've been using a Macbook there have been some big improvements in the PC market, but it's still hard to find a Windows laptop that is as good a package as the Retina Macbook Pro or 13" Macbook Air.
 

That gave me a good laugh. Thanks for sharing.

Apple produces software and hardware, MS doesn't produce the laptops, they produce the OS. Frankly I'm buying a rMBP for the aesthetics and build quality, and installing windows right away, as I cannot stand any apple OS. Also your T43 is 8 years old, it's supposed to be buggy and chug like a fratboy with a drinking problem.

People seem to forget this all the time and when the hardware on their computers goes bad they blame it on "Windows", not HP or Dell or Toshiba or whoever made their laptop.
 
Despite my user name..I'm also new to Macs although I sold the original Macs back in the early 80s when I worked in a retail computer franchise. I've been a computer professional since then and owe my pension and career path (I taught people how to fix and troubleshoot PCS for thirteen years at a community college) to how flaky Redmond's products have always been.

A few years ago I purchased an Ipod Touch and was introduced to the world of Apple. It wasn't long before my wife and I owned iPads. Then we got iPhones. Naturally I fell in love with Apple products.

Since I love tech and especially operating systems I can hardly wait to learn the ins and outs of OS X.

The laptop I don't use, but own, is a Lenovo Thinkpad T43. I hate it! It's slow, buggier than all get out, drops the wifi connection regularly and takes forever to boot. Every time I turn it on after a month or two I get to look forward to at least half an hour of Microsoft security and bug fix updates.

One thing I do like about it is the fingerprint scanner. It is nice to just swipe my finger to turn the unit on. I can swipe and go and come back in 10 minutes when it's finished booting (literally). If the new rMBP has that feature,everybody will love it.

But I miss having a laptop I want to use. So I was excited several months ago when I decided to buy an Apple laptop. I was almost ready to buy an Air when they went to Haswell but because I do so much photo and video stuff I decided I needed a Retina screen.

So I am waiting like the rest of you and chomping at the bit.

Apple is so different from MS. MS rushes crappy stuff out and everybody dreads the updates and puts off upgrading as long as they can. Apple takes their time and gets everyone in a frenzy. My second Apple purchase after my Ipod was two shares of Apple stock.

The problem with buying a haswell rMBP this month...is going to be how frustrating it will be when they announce the IGZO MBPs. My iPad 1 is basically useless now and my Ipad 3 is getting more and more obsolete with each new iPad.

It's easier on the wallet in the PC world to upgrade sooner because you can build your own systems with the new technology almost as soon as it comes out.

I just bought a Seagate external 4tb hard drive that claims to offer both Mac and PC accessibility. It is all filled now with music, videos, and photos waiting to be used on the new rMBP.

Can anybody recommend a thread or forum filled with people who switched from PCs to Macs? Any tips or websites I should know about that will help me prepare?

Thanks for reading all this!

I'm sure that you'll be very satified with your purchase of the Haswell rmbp in a couple of weeks. Switching from a PC to a Mac isn't very hard, but you'll have to get used to a couple of things that are different in OSX. First of all, the little plus sign on a window open on a Mac isn't maximize, as you would think coming from a Windows world, but it's actually a fit button that is designed to size the window around the content it contains. Secondly, shortcuts like Control + C for Copy and Control + V for Paste are on the Mac as well — you just use the Command key instead of the Control key. Thirdly, instead of going to a specific website to download programs, you just navigate or to the Mac App Store. Next, most users won't need to download virus protection programs for a Mac, as usually only a handful of viruses come out every year for OSX, and the Gatekeeper function built-into OSX only allows you to install programs from the Mac App Store (you can turn this off in Settings later). Those are the largest things you have to overcome moving to a Mac, and I can assure you that the experience of using OSX will surpass your expectations. Good luck.
 
Would an 15" rMBP with Iris Pro perform worse than the current ones? Seeing the 21" iMac with Iris Pro scoring about 10k in Geekbench, and the base rMBP 15" scoring 13k? Or is it the 5400RPM HDD in the iMac that is the reason to these lower scores?
 
Would an 15" rMBP with Iris Pro perform worse than the current ones? Seeing the 21" iMac with Iris Pro scoring about 10k in Geekbench, and the base rMBP 15" scoring 13k? Or is it the 5400RPM HDD in the iMac that is the reason to these lower scores?

Geekbench doesn't measure GPU performance.
 
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Pro's were invented alongside the plastic Macbook because Apple got it's hands on those fancy (and much more powerfull) Intel processors. The plastic Macbooks weren't build to house top-of-the-line Intels while Apple's new love for aluminum was too expensive for the cheap Macbooks. Therefore a pricier, but cutting-edge notebook was born alongside the Macbook: the Macbook Pro.

Pros weren't invented alongside the plastic Macbook. Apple has always had a cheaper laptop and a more expensive one. iBook/Powerbook, and then the different Powerbook models.

The processor classes for a thin notebook like the Macbook Air and a faster notebook like the Pro are entirely different. That's the difference. Different price points, different performance, different thermal profiles.
 
I'm sure that you'll be very satified with your purchase of the Haswell rmbp in a couple of weeks. Switching from a PC to a Mac isn't very hard, but you'll have to get used to a couple of things that are different in OSX. First of all, the little plus sign on a window open on a Mac isn't maximize, as you would think coming from a Windows world, but it's actually a fit button that is designed to size the window around the content it contains. Secondly, shortcuts like Control + C for Copy and Control + V for Paste are on the Mac as well — you just use the Command key instead of the Control key. Thirdly, instead of going to a specific website to download programs, you just navigate or to the Mac App Store. Next, most users won't need to download virus protection programs for a Mac, as usually only a handful of viruses come out every year for OSX, and the Gatekeeper function built-into OSX only allows you to install programs from the Mac App Store (you can turn this off in Settings later). Those are the largest things you have to overcome moving to a Mac, and I can assure you that the experience of using OSX will surpass your expectations. Good luck.


Not to be too off topic - but you still install plenty of apps from a download / website...And one of the things I feel is lacking in the uninstall program features...I'm not real clear on how to do this in all cases. Can anyone weigh in on the best approach to managing app installs and uninstall? each seems to have a varied approach involving 'file manager' file removals from the app folder...a little cumbersome and unclear in some instances.

Also - you'll want to be open to learning some basis unix commands (heres a good link: http://mac.tutsplus.com/tutorials/terminal/10-terminal-commands-that-every-mac-user-should-know/) I've had a to do some adhoc system permission work that was fairly cryptic...but not anything worse than swimming in MS registry...
 
People seem to forget this all the time and when the hardware on their computers goes bad they blame it on "Windows", not HP or Dell or Toshiba or whoever made their laptop.

Not everybody. The hardware on both my PCs and Macs have been rock solid for years. My problems have been with Windows.

But can I "stand" to use Windows? Of course - it's a lot better than years past. But I love OS X for other work, too.
 
Not everybody. The hardware on both my PCs and Macs have been rock solid for years. My problems have been with Windows.

But can I "stand" to use Windows? Of course - it's a lot better than years past. But I love OS X for other work, too.

I was referring more so to regular consumers when I made that statement. But of course the problems can stem from either the software or the hardware. Luckily most times we're able to tell the difference when it does happen.
 
I'm going for the same and getting an AirPort Extreme + External Hard Drive (or Time Capsule depending on costs). I'll be using the external to hold all my media so I can access on several devices.

The Time Capsule will give you slightly better speeds (especially with ac wifi). Just something to keep in mind.
 
I don't understand why they didn't put USB 3.0 on those new Aiport Extreme/TC
As I understand it, because USB 2.0 can already handle the throughput to an external disk or a printer.

Moreover, because the USB 2.0 port is not a real-world bottleneck (the upstream data movement is limited enough at least 99.9% of the time) it would not have made sense to add the additional cost of USB 3.0 components to the design for no net benefit.
 
The closer we get to 10/22 and no others rumors surface about the MBP's, the more worried I get. :(

I'm with you... Everybody is chiming in with a 'me too' post about the MBPrs getting updated on 10/22. I believe these were the same folks that said the exact same thing about the WWDC event. Look what happened there...

If you look back to the 2012 WWDC event did anyone NOT expect a MBPr like notebook? We had leaks, rumors, and blurry photos of MBPr parts for weeks (if not months) before WWDC 2012. I remember reading about the Retina display weeks before WWDC. Yet, we haven't had anything tangible like that for the 2013 MBPrs...

My hope is that Apple doesn't do a minor Haswell CPU update and dump the GPU. There are too many other great notebooks that easily compete or exceed the MBPr specs now. I would probably jump ship...



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Is there some small tiny possibility they introduce a macbook air with retina display at a price level around 1300? Of course it will not replace existing (and just updated) MBA, but it will complement them.

Ooooh, I've got an idea: Why doesn't Apple sell the retina as "the new MBPc"
and the IGZO is the "new retina"? Same price of course...:D
 
Therefore there won't be a reason anymore to keep offering 2 different machines. 1 machine offered in all sizes and hardware configurations to satisfy those who demand power and those who don't want to spend as much. It's a more unified Mac-line, cleaner Mac-line and a simpler or more accessible choice for future customers. It'll be an icon (with a new catchy name of course, "Mac" has been ditched out of "Mac OS X" already...), like the cMBP was and therefore strong in a market were competitors are closing in to Apple.

^THAT, or Apple finds something new (Carbon-fiber?) people are willing to pay for and is too expensive to use in the cheaper Macbook.

If they do that, it's more likely that they'll get rid of the MBP line than the Air line. I don't think the tech is there yet though.
 
Just an FYI, popherald.com is really just a joke of a website - They'll post whatever will bring in readers, including things that are just plain false. Also a lot of re-posting the same article over and over again to make it seem like "new" news.

There needs to be a site that brings together as many "news" sites as possible, and rates their legitimacy and reliability. :)
 
The closer we get to 10/22 and no others rumors surface about the MBP's, the more worried I get. :(

I hope it's because they keep any information to themselves due to a completely secret and new revolutionary line of rMBPs with TB4, 8K res, gold alu, and a thickness of only 2 mm! :p

Anyways! Hi all, I have been following this thread for abour 40 days now, and it has kept me really entertained, though frustrated. The waiting is killing me! I hope we see something at October 22, or else I might go CRAAAZYYY!

All I want right now is my future rMBP 15" :eek:
 
Asked this in a different thread, but thought I might get more opinions here:

I have the chance to buy the 13" 2.9GHz 750GB, 8GB for $1000 from early April of this year.

I have tried to compare this to any end of life deals once the new are released. Or will the baseline specs be as good or better as this second step now? Wonder if education pricing will remain at $999?

Opinions?

If I had my perfect machine. It would have at least 8GB ram, a 256 SSD, and a better graphics card for a marching band program I use. But that seems to be out of my price range now.
 
I know. And I don't game. But the rMBP would use the same CPU as the iMac if Apple goes Iris Pro in the rMBP.

I know Iris Pro has better OpenCL performance than the 650M/750M, but here I'm speaking raw CPU performance measured by Geekbench.

iMac Iris Pro 2.7GHz (10213): http://browser.primatelabs.com/geekbench3/83960
rMBP 2.8GHz (13349): http://browser.primatelabs.com/geekbench3/98856

Well the iMac's i5 set up has a higher TDP, which from my understanding Iris Pro benefits from. So with the 65W Iris Pro in the iMac I would assume it performs a little better than the 47W total for the rMBP. For CPU though the rMBP should be stronger since it's an i7, and the iMac is only i5.
 
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