With the new rMBPs, the SSD can be swapped out? I didnt think that was possible
http://eshop.macsales.com/shop/SSD/OWC/Aura_Pro_Retina_2012
You could also just find an Apple OEM SSD on ebay in a couple of years when you want to upgrade.
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http://eshop.macsales.com/shop/SSD/OWC/Aura_Pro_Retina_2012
You could also just find an Apple OEM SSD on ebay in a couple of years when you want to upgrade.
Umm, no. Mactracker uses Geekbench. Courtesy of Geekbench:
i7 MBAs
MacBook Air (13-inch Mid 2013)
Intel Core i7-4650U 1700 MHz (2 cores)
2856
MacBook Air (13-inch Mid 2012)
Intel Core i7-3667U 2000 MHz (2 cores)
2565
i5 MBAs
MacBook Air (13-inch Mid 2013)
Intel Core i5-4250U 1300 MHz (2 cores)
2368
MacBook Air (13-inch Mid 2012)
Intel Core i5-3427U 1800 MHz (2 cores)
2303
MacBook Air (13-inch Mid 2013)
Intel Core i7-4650U 1700 MHz (2 cores)
2856
MacBook Air (13-inch Mid 2012)
Intel Core i7-3667U 2000 MHz (2 cores)
2565
i5 MBAs
MacBook Air (13-inch Mid 2013)
Intel Core i5-4250U 1300 MHz (2 cores)
2368
MacBook Air (13-inch Mid 2012)
Intel Core i5-3427U 1800 MHz (2 cores)
2303
Slower clock speeds, slightly better performance, i5 Haswell still slower than i7 Ivy (at least after dropping the clock speed).
That's more expensive than buying storage directly from Apple, and that's really saying something
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That's way too expensive for the 480GB unless I'm missing something?
Why not just buy the 512GB for $300 when buying the rMBP? I guess the only good thing is the fact that you would get both the 256GB (the original HD) and the 480GB (that you would buy from OWC). But still, you can get it cheaper if you just buy the 256GB from Amazon.
Yeah but unfortunately I find myself in Eastern Europe. In the offices there is always wifi, but sometimes they give me apartments with no wifi. Last time I went in and told the coordinator to get me wifi, and the Producer called me into his office and told me not to get greedy. So I went out and got my own router, which out there cost me $200
First of all, thanks to those who passed along some tips for my transition to macs from PCs.
Secondly, I'm new here, so I don't know how off topic I can get away with (this is my second post)...but while we are waiting....
One of the problems with Windows is that MS has to accommodate EVERY piece of hardware or software a user will use. That means that the OS is at the mercy of the hardware drivers that get installed. There are standards, but MS has very little power in enforcing them and people ignore them all the time. When there is a problem...it can be very difficult to track down...AND there is no centralized support. That Windows works as well as it does is a testament to the MS serfs...but doesn't fix the problem.
Also...because of the above...every vendor likes to blame any problems on other vendor's drivers. The advantage...if you devote your life to understanding Windows as I do...you can actually do whatever you want and have it work. The disadvantage is that you have to devote your life to it.
I'm sure Apple has problems...but because they control the hardware and the software, it has got to be easier. My Windows troubleshooting classes were almost always full. The PC certification classes (A+ certification for computer repair) I used to teach were intensively filled with understanding interrupts, the registry, drivers, memory addressing, etc because a PC tech HAS to know all those things. No one ever requested a MAC troubleshooting class. We offered MAC classes a couple of times in our department and almost nobody showed. We eventually stopped offering them!
Here's a book offered on Amazon to help you figure out windows and it's hardware. Only 1300 plus pages! A+ troubleshooting guide link
And here's Steve Jobs talking about MS in the 1990s:
"The only problem with Microsoft is they just have no taste, they have absolutely no taste, and what that means is - I don't mean that in a small way I mean that in a big way. In the sense that they they don't think of original ideas and they don't bring much culture into their product, ehm, and you say why is that important - well you know proportionally spaced fonts come from type setting and beautiful books, that's where one gets the idea - if it weren't for the Mac they would never have that in their products and, ehm, so I guess I am saddened, not by Microsoft's success - I have no problem with their success, they've earned their success for the most part. I have a problem with the fact that they just make really third rate products."
....from."http://www.pbs.org/nerds/part3.html
Well let me know if this is all too off topic while we are waiting, waiting, waiting, for Haswell rMBPs.
Secondly, I'm new here, so I don't know how off topic I can get away with (this is my second post)...but while we are waiting....
One of the problems with Windows is that MS has to accommodate EVERY piece of hardware or software a user will use. That means that the OS is at the mercy of the hardware drivers that get installed. There are standards, but MS has very little power in enforcing them and people ignore them all the time. When there is a problem...it can be very difficult to track down...AND there is no centralized support. That Windows works as well as it does is a testament to the MS serfs...but doesn't fix the problem.
Also...because of the above...every vendor likes to blame any problems on other vendor's drivers. The advantage...if you devote your life to understanding Windows as I do...you can actually do whatever you want and have it work. The disadvantage is that you have to devote your life to it.
I'm sure Apple has problems...but because they control the hardware and the software, it has got to be easier. My Windows troubleshooting classes were almost always full. The PC certification classes (A+ certification for computer repair) I used to teach were intensively filled with understanding interrupts, the registry, drivers, memory addressing, etc because a PC tech HAS to know all those things. No one ever requested a MAC troubleshooting class. We offered MAC classes a couple of times in our department and almost nobody showed. We eventually stopped offering them!
Here's a book offered on Amazon to help you figure out windows and it's hardware. Only 1300 plus pages! A+ troubleshooting guide link
And here's Steve Jobs talking about MS in the 1990s:
"The only problem with Microsoft is they just have no taste, they have absolutely no taste, and what that means is - I don't mean that in a small way I mean that in a big way. In the sense that they they don't think of original ideas and they don't bring much culture into their product, ehm, and you say why is that important - well you know proportionally spaced fonts come from type setting and beautiful books, that's where one gets the idea - if it weren't for the Mac they would never have that in their products and, ehm, so I guess I am saddened, not by Microsoft's success - I have no problem with their success, they've earned their success for the most part. I have a problem with the fact that they just make really third rate products."
....from."http://www.pbs.org/nerds/part3.html
Well let me know if this is all too off topic while we are waiting, waiting, waiting, for Haswell rMBPs.
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You know what's nice? I got the day off of school today because it's a professional development day for teachers, which means I can spend some more time on this thread.
Today I made absolutely sure that I won't be working the afternoon of the 22nd. Not a chance in hell I'm missing this event.
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Are you serious?
Think it is possible, even talk of the Air getting retina next year which would lead you to believe there will be a MBP display bump. Question is this year or next. Does make sense to go ahead and give the MBP IGZO this year (if possible) and give Air retina next year.
Just saw this, you might be interested for future comparison. Dell XPS QHD+ price 1899.99.
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Why do you think it would make sense to give the MBP IGZO this year, and not next? I think it would make a lot more sense to give the MBA retina and give the MBP IGZO 4k in the same year. Giving it IGZO now makes the least sense, imo.
That's what I was thinking. MBP would just one up the MBA again next year.
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But even with all this talk of the MBA getting Retina 1-2 years down the line or whatever, I think I will stick with the Pro line. While I initially decided on getting a rMBP due to the screen, on the other hand I really like all the other benefits the Pro gives you.
I don't think I could be swayed back to a MBA, unless they did something magical with it.
Lol I'm not here to convince anyone of anything. That's a decision everyone should make for themselves. I think at this day and age it's not a decision of how much power you "need" it's about what "class" of product you want. The MBA certaintly fits most 13" MBP users "needs" but I personally wouldn't ever consider buying a MBA just because I like to have the more powerful kind of products. Same goes for cars
and yes, I get speeding tickets from time to time because of itLol I'm not here to convince anyone of anything. That's a decision everyone should make for themselves. I think at this day and age it's not a decision of how much power you "need" it's about what "class" of product you want. The MBA certaintly fits most 13" MBP users "needs" but I personally wouldn't ever consider buying a MBA just because I like to have the more powerful kind of products. Same goes for cars
I know you weren't. That post wasn't directed at you or anyone else. I was just saying in general.
Every SSD that has shipped in any Mac (so far) can be swapped out by the end user.
Other benefits like ?
I've been using Windows since last 15 yrs and considering a move to Mac. Have been waiting for the rMBP 13" since last 6 months. Only thing that swayed me away from buying MBA was that it did not have a high res display and a graphics card for those pixels.
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That's more expensive than buying storage directly from Apple, and that's really saying something
It will be much cheaper over time. Just because it's so new that it's dang expensive.
I have been using Mac since the beginning, some times I had to go over to Windows because customers had windows.
But really - once you go mac you never want to go back.
The Mac experience software & hardware is unique =functional, well integrated , more or less virus-free, intuitive and like poetry.
Those who buy a PC with windows because it is cheaper fool them self. It is like buying the infamous car, former east german, Trabant for 600 USD instead of a Mercedes för 1200 USD. Don't fool your self if you are getting a tool you use for several hours a day. Even if Windows 7 is way better then the XP/Vista it is still not good enough in my perspective. And I am not only talking about performance and functionality I talking about the whole experience. For me cost of ownership is way lower then the PC-bog.
Today I made absolutely sure that I won't be working the afternoon of the 22nd. Not a chance in hell I'm missing this event.
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Are you serious?
I know, right? That's an expensive way to have a sub-par user experience. May as well by an HP or a Dell. Like putting Regular in a high performance engine. Such a shame.
My post was regarding what major benefits does rMBP offer over MBA other than the retina display. I would have bought the MBA in a heartbeat if it had a retina display.
Regarding what you're saying, after using iPhone 4 and iPad first gen, I'm more inclined towards a Mac, although I've never used the Mac OS. A decently priced Windows 7 laptop was what I needed while studying engineering. But after using Windows and Linux for last 15 years, I want to give Mac OS a try. I really love how everything just works in iOS, and especially the quality of the apps. Hoping for a similar experience on the rMBP 13" Haswell.
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Today I made absolutely sure that I won't be working the afternoon of the 22nd. Not a chance in hell I'm missing this event.
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Are you serious?
I have an exam coming up next week. I just changed the slot from 22nd to 20th, so that I don't miss the keynote.
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Don't get your hopes up for IGZO this refresh.
Sharp showed their first 15" UHD samples this month, while mass-production would start february 2014. Explain me how Apple could release an IGZO rMBP this month/year when mass-production would commence in february?
Sharp showed their first 15" UHD samples this month, while mass-production would start february 2014. Explain me how Apple could release an IGZO rMBP this month/year when mass-production would commence in february?
My post was regarding what major benefits does rMBP offer over MBA other than the retina display. I would have bought the MBA in a heartbeat if it had a retina display.
Regarding what you're saying, after using iPhone 4 and iPad first gen, I'm more inclined towards a Mac, although I've never used the Mac OS. A decently priced Windows 7 laptop was what I needed while studying engineering. But after using Windows and Linux for last 15 years, I want to give Mac OS a try. I really love how everything just works in iOS, and especially the quality of the apps. Hoping for a similar experience on the rMBP 13" Haswell.
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I have an exam coming up next week. I just changed the slot from 22nd to 20th, so that I don't miss the keynote.
Aha, ok, I am using rMBP 15 16 GB 512 SSD instead of a stationary computer. My iMac 27 is just collecting dust. So if you plan to use the computer as a combo between portable and stationary and you use some demanding apps like I do (FCP and such) go for the rMBP. If Apple will release a rMBP 13 with 10+ battery hours I will buy it to have on the go, otherwise I will buy MBA (even if I cry when I am using the non retina display). For someone using a computer for iWorks, MS office (no thanks) and web surfing etc a MBA with retina would be the dream computer.
Yes, rMBA would've been the ideal computer. Initially I was inclined towards the rMBP 15", but now I'm looking forward to the rMBP 13" for portability. As you've been using the rMBP 15, I'd like to know your views on how much difference is there in between the rMBP 13 and 15 as far as portability is concerned.
Source?
http://www.tomshardware.com/news/Sharp-Displays-IGZO-LCD-Technology-Production,22623.html
Mind you, this article is from May 2013. And yes it is not UHD, but it's very close to Retina resolution on the 13 at least.
How do you square this with the several other Win machine IZGO release announcements?
Yes, but just because Sharp showed it first this month, don't necessarily mean it will take until February before its at all possible to end up on a rMBP.
Also a switch to IGZO don't have to mean the rMBP is going over to 4k.
(But i do agree that its more likely that they will)
It could keep the current resolution, and just swap technologies.
The reason we are still seeing IGZO as a small possibility, is because other laptop brands have already released computers featuring IGZO displays.
Also as I've understood it the IGZO technology have been licensed to other manufacturers also, so the IGZO displays don't necessarily have to come from Sharp.
And that report about them starting production in February, is a bit different on some sites.
Some say they will open up a second production facility for mass production in February, but its already in production at the moment.
And one should also take in to account that Apple have a history of getting access to new tech early, and with little information beforehand from manufacturers.
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