It seems like a lot of people will look the other way if Apple releases a Haswelll rMBP with iGPU if it has IGZO.
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Not only a cynic but apparently a gossiper as well. What a bad combination to have.
You're hoping for too much. Just be hopeful that there is at least a refresh this month.
One more day until the invites go out and then all is left is to hope for the MacBook Pro to be announced. I really hope they do.
It would be a shame for Apple to let months go by while Dell gets all the praise for packing the latest technologies into a sleek profile with awesome battery life. For the iPhone and iPad, I can see Apple making incremental small improvements because the Apple product itself remains in the lead..
But for this groundbreaking technology that actually puts Dell ahead of Apple, and with the statistics starting with the Back to School sales... it really doesn't make sense for Apple to not push ahead to be at least "one" of the first to use this technology 2nd only to Dell.
That question the interviewer posed in the video about the OEM... I hope Dell wasn't the only one...
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i mean, 3200x1800 will probably be in mass production next year. not looking to 4k until 2014. i also do believe it's a massive difference. 2880x1800 is already on retina macbook pros for 2 years. IGZO's "advantage" is being able to cram a lot of pixels in a small space so if they're just catching up to where IPS has been for apple, it's still a ways to go to get it to a stable 4K at a cheap price.
One day more!
One day more of speculation!
We will nip it in the bud!
We'll be ready for these laptops!
They will light themselves with IGZO!
lol couldn't resist
The IGZOs already began mass production April 2012 (http://www.pcworld.com/article/2537...f_igzo_displays_amid_rumors_of_apple_use.html). No need to wait until next year. Dell's already got the 3200 x 1800 display in their XPS 15 coming out October 18th (not an announcement, they are literally available). I would imagine they are being widely mass produced... at least for Dell. 4K is due for mass production February 2014. Retina Macbook Pro doesn't need 4K, the one thats already in mass production now will do.
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At this point my disappointment will be huge if they don't come with IGZO. Sure I'll still buy it, but I will think less of Apple for waiting. I mean come on Apple - are you really going to get outpaced by Dell?
God I hate Dell
I'm also hoping against a silent refresh because that will add more weight to some kind of substantial announcement on the 22nd.
God I hate Dell
I'm also hoping against a silent refresh because that will add more weight to some kind of substantial announcement on the 22nd.
it won't do. most likely apple will have to ask sharp/samsung/LG to create one to fit their aspect ratios.
there are articles that say sharp will began mass producing it in april, and others who question if they are going to make enough quantities to make it into an apple product. it's obvious it's all a big question mark.
Ok here's the numbers.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/7113/2013-macbook-air-core-i5-4250u-vs-core-i7-4650u/4
The only real difference is in top temperature (a delta of +4.8° in the bottom of the chassis for i7). However, under sustained intensive taks, the sustained temperature is exactly the same for i5 and i7 (41.4° vs 42.1°). As Anandtech said, the top temperature recorded was "occasional" and (my impression) you reach that only when you push one core to 3.3ghz (that is very impressive for a 15W core): something absolutely ecceptional when you need such an high raw power. In normal and intensive tasks instead i5 and i7 temperature are almost exactly the same. Hence, unless you spend all days running geekbench I don't think this can influence the laptop expected life.
Battery life: under light workload (browsing internet, writing on iwork etc.) i7 performs actually better than i5 on battery life (11.25 vs 11.03).
Of course, as said before, under heavier workload i7 battery life is shorter. However a single cpu-intensive task (export a raw file for example) will be performed faster so it's really a matter of what are you doing as for battery life in this condition.
As for me, I agree with PDFierro: definitely the MBA is underpowered with i5 and I would choose i7 (well I think I will in case of no rMBP).
OH: tomorrow invitations should go out. From the title of those invitations we may guess what's going on. Minus 8 days guys.
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Samsung's new laptop with 13.3" 3200x1800 touch screen:
http://techreport.com/news/25190/samsung-new-laptop-has-a-3200x1800-touch-screen
Fujitsu announces a razer-thin Ultrabook with a 3200 x 1800 IGZO display:
http://www.pcworld.com/article/2040...p-has-11hour-battery-three-times-full-hd.html
http://techreport.com/news/25190/samsung-new-laptop-has-a-3200x1800-touch-screen
Fujitsu announces a razer-thin Ultrabook with a 3200 x 1800 IGZO display:
http://www.pcworld.com/article/2040...p-has-11hour-battery-three-times-full-hd.html
I'm not sure how it's spread in the US, but K-12 students don't have to go to school on the Friday of Thanksgiving weekend, and everyone gets Monday off of work/school. What's wrong with Thanksgiving? At the least, it's a paid day off.
Yeah. Thanksgiving is on a Thursday and we get Friday off as well. So it's two paid days. Big beautiful turkey, stuffing, mashed potatoes and gravy. Cranberry sauce, corn on the Cobb and several other dishes, pies etc
Agreed. If there is something exciting about the new rMBP's one would think Apple would hold on to it for a week and announce it at the event on the 22nd.
That's different. iOS is an ecosystem where apps are designed for full screen use on a particular resolution. Every change in resolution is a big change for the developers. So changes are kept to the absolute minimum.
PC's are different. Apps and websites are designed to run in a variety of resolutions, window sizes, ...
So Apple can do whatever they want with the resolution and the screen ration of the MBP.
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That is what everybody here is hoping for. Let's see if the Mini gets updated tomorrow. Don't expect the invite to reveal anything about the Mac aspect of the keynote, just the iPad. I think MacRumors is close with their MBP Roundup; this is what should be expected at minimum. My only addition would be TB2, I just can't imagine another MBP with TB1. Intel unveiled it in June and various manufacturers showed TB2 hardware at IDF in September.
http://www.pcper.com/news/General-Tech/IDF-2013-Products-20Gbps-Thunderbolt-2-Appear-IDF-2013
I think there should be a ban on the word IGZO (kinda like Voldemort) being said this week Seriously, awesome if they add it this refresh but don't get your hopes up. All reports thuss far indicate 2014 is the year for that.
They aren't 1080p because of the screen size. At 4", the current resolution produces a "retina" like screen. You can't see any pixels anymore at 640 x 1136 on a 4" screen. And to be honest, raising the PPI any higher at this point only reduces the battery life and gives a very tiny improvement in sharpness. The difference between my 720p Galaxy S3 (300+ ppi) and 1080p HTC One (460+ ppi) was very small (sharpness wise). So it's not weird the iPhone doesn't have a 1080p 4" screen, it's actually a smart choice.
But I agree with you that Apple probably isn't going to change the resolution of the rMBP. Like on the iPhone, they achieved "retina" sharpness (you can't see pixels anymore) so they probably have the same vision as with their iPhone's: increasing the resolution any further at this screen size is only a waste of battery life.
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