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Waiting for Haswell MBP Mega Thread
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Apple's had a pretty regular Oct, June, Feb, Oct, June, Feb pattern for a while. Oct is due; no reason to think they'll go a full 12 months to Feb 2014. They could always surprise us, but my money is on this month.
Low expectations aren't bad. You should be pleasantly surprised next week
And how do you know this?
Could they silently refresh rMBPs while sending out an invite?
He doesn't know but it's a bit of logic, waiting until 2014 would really shorten the wait until Broadwell, which doesn't make sense.
And we have absolutely no reason to believe Apple is skipping Haswell.
Warning : Rant.
This thread and Apple itself makes me sad to be an Apple user.
Most other big brands give you approximate release dates with a good idea for the products main characteristics.
Often, you even know *exactly* what you're going to get, and a release date in the upcoming year within +/- 1 month (Asus or Samsung comes to mind).
Instead, here we are with stupid Apple and its secret, rumored specs; unknown release date and total lack of information, and an army of fans that gobbles all this bs and ask for more years after years (which doesn't help).
Meanwhile in the real world companies with tight budgets and freelancers, who typically need to be smart about when to renew their hardware so it lasts for a long time and are good value for money, are getting f*cked over big time.
This kind of behavior is acceptable for phones, iPods and other "less serious"/entertainement hardware, but I find it ludicrous for a MB PRO.
There's simply (IMO) no OS equivalent for me when it comes to software development & personal use, both windows and Linux distribs being pain in the ass, but hopefully this will change (Steambox might pave the way for a better Linux world). And when this day comes, I will let go of Apple in a blink of a eye, and won't regret stupid time spent on a forum trying to guess when to invest my money or my boss' money.
Ok, that's it, just needed to spell it after checking on this thread for the past 6 months !
I have no idea. But I've been waiting for six months and have been following this thread for that long too. It makes no sense to skip a generation of processor or have any more delay for Apple's best selling Mac lineup. I really believe we'll all be happy on October 22nd.
My main concern is that the 13" rMBP will still only come with 8GB of RAM at most but even that's not a deal killer. TB2 and IGZO would also be nice but I wouldn't be surprised to get neither.
Low expectations aren't bad. You should be pleasantly surprised next week
You rule!
One day more!
One day more of speculation!
We will nip it in the bud!
We'll be ready for these laptops!
They will light themselves with IGZO!
lol couldn't resist
Yikes! Not so fast. One more day until a sparsely worded invitation is released (we hope), No product announcements. Can't nip anything until the presentation on the 22nd (we hope).
Warning : Rant.
This thread and Apple itself makes me sad to be an Apple user.
Most other big brands give you approximate release dates with a good idea for the products main characteristics.
Often, you even know *exactly* what you're going to get, and a release date in the upcoming year within +/- 1 month (Asus or Samsung comes to mind).
Instead, here we are with stupid Apple and its secret, rumored specs; unknown release date and total lack of information, and an army of fans that gobbles all this bs and ask for more years after years (which doesn't help).
Meanwhile in the real world companies with tight budgets and freelancers, who typically need to be smart about when to renew their hardware so it lasts for a long time and are good value for money, are getting f*cked over big time.
This kind of behavior is acceptable for phones, iPods and other "less serious"/entertainement hardware, but I find it ludicrous for a MB PRO.
There's simply (IMO) no OS equivalent for me when it comes to software development & personal use, both windows and Linux distribs being pain in the ass, but hopefully this will change (Steambox might pave the way for a better Linux world). And when this day comes, I will let go of Apple in a blink of a eye, and won't regret stupid time spent on a forum trying to guess when to invest my money or my boss' money.
Ok, that's it, just needed to spell it after checking on this thread for the past 6 months !
This is exactly what my thought process went through. I hate the thought of being at the mercy of Apple. Granted such situations are rare for us, not everyone is waiting to buy a new macbook around the turn of a release cycle.
I know some of you are going to jump on me by saying - then don't use it, and I'm not. But I would be if Apple had hinted at something. Like they did for Mac Pro.
P.S. The Osborne effect wouldn't matter if they lowered the price on the older models towards the end of the cycle, but Apple doesn't do that - so that's that.
I'm with ya. I can understand the secrecy if they are unveiling something new or radical...something that will give them a competitive edge. But all we're really talking about here is the inclusion of Haswell, PCIE SSD and a host of other features that already exist on available hardware including that of competitors. If it's a few weeks away, spill it already 
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.Thanks for your comment, totally with you, especially on the last point.
And before anyone mention the refurb program : refurbished is not the same as a new machine, and the price isn't that low anyway.
PS : learned a new word, Osborne effect . Thanks !
I must be a sucker for punishment. Mid last week, it was determined that the conference will not be until 10/22. On 10/1, even with my doubts I was stalking this board. Did the same on 10/8 with the strong feeling that the so-called announcement will not happen. Last week, we were spared the angst of maybes and could be's when we heard a conference was planned for 10/22.
Knowing that, why am I still stalking this board? Now, we have no disappointment to look forward to tomorrow. Have to wait a whole week and hope Apple does not make people like me cry at their cubes on Tuesday.
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I travel every week and 1kg is 2.2 lbs - that's a lot of weight off my shoulders.
Knowing that, why am I still stalking this board? Now, we have no disappointment to look forward to tomorrow. Have to wait a whole week and hope Apple does not make people like me cry at their cubes on Tuesday.
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I travel every week and 1kg is 2.2 lbs - that's a lot of weight off my shoulders.
not "will began", "have already began". Apple is no stranger to delays when it comes to iPhones and iPads due to supply. One can only hope Sharp is just tight lipped about the displays they've been preparing for Apple's Haswell refresh of the rMBP. If its only about the 16:9 ratio and Sharp expects $$$ to make 16:10's for Apple, that would be a little sneaky on Sharp's part to get Apple to pay them more for the display... but we'll see. I wouldnt mind 16:9 for increased battery life savings. Or maybe... rMBP can go 16:9, it would lessen complaints about any black bars at the top and bottom of their movies and videos.
Well, here's my rant:
Warning : Rant.
This thread and Apple itself makes me sad to be an Apple user.
I don't blame Apple for their lack of official announcements. It makes sense. That said, I do blame MacRumors for not pushing their contacts (do they even have any?
), calling in favors, providing more information and basically living up to their namesake. You'd think a single thread approaching 12000 posts by members (and 1.5 million hits) would warrant something more than just iPhone sales statistics and updates on the new Cupertino mothership campus on the front page.
The MBP leaks are out there. Somebody knows something. Go find out MR. Do some sleuthing on your own. After all, we pay good money to be here and... oh wait.
Makes sense how? Curious as to your thought process on that.
It makes sense in that it's SOP for Apple but that's all I've got.
As is middle to late January, although I'd be shocked if we don't see a release by next month.
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Really? Please link to the press releases by computer manufacturers detailing their release plans weeks and months in advance. It doesn't happen. In the consumer electronics industry, component manufacturers give roadmaps because it's in their best interest to do so. PC manufacturers don't because it isn't in their best interest to do so. Occasionally, you will see pre-announcements designed to hype an electronics product, but that's usually because the manufacturer is behind one or more curves.
Quit acting like Apple is doing something to spite you, or out of the ordinary for that matter.
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Makes sense how? Curious as to your thought process on that.
It's common sense. Only a tiny faction of obsessed users (read: people here on MR) wait on pins and needles for new releases. The vast majority of the population buys when they need something, and might speed up their purchase if a product is announced and they say, "Wow, that's cool."
Pre-announcing products would only serve to make a subset of that "vast majority of the population" wait and not buy current models. It would be, in a word, asinine.
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Other than the brown box, if I presented you with two machines—one new and one refurb—and prohibited you from checking out their serial numbers, you would not be able to tell in any way, manner, shape, or form which was which.
As for the price, $1599 for a refurb 2.3 15" versus $2199 for a new 2.4 15" amounts to a 37.5% premium for new and a virtually imperceptible tick in processor performance. How you see that price as not "low" is beyond me.
What ? How ?
The whole point of my post was blaming Apple for making us (companies with tight budget or freelancers) having a ****** time and possibly wasting huge amount of money,
I disagree. a) other companies announce ahead of time and they seem to do ok and b) a lot of people look would at what's coming and say it's not worth the wait and buy now. Besides, as you said " The vast majority of the population buys when they need something" so they wouldn't even bother to research what is coming.
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