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Can't wait for tomorrow. I'm pretty sure about the event happening, so finally reading about the invites going out will be fun. Hope the invites give an indication of something related to the rMBP.

Either way, soon everything will be over. Either it's coming in October or in 2014, can't see it coming in November. If they wait beyond October they are surely waiting for something in 2014, or else it just doesn't make sense anymore.

Well we're sure there's going to be a keynote next week but we're not that sure they'll show it there.
I already spent half my semester using a 2006 MBP with a dead battery I really don't want to wait another 4 months :/
 
I disagree. a) other companies announce ahead of time and they seem to do ok and b) a lot of people look would at what's coming and say it's not worth the wait and buy now. Besides, as you said " The vast majority of the population buys when they need something" so they wouldn't even bother to research what is coming.

Your logic is inverted on so many different levels. Wow.

On your (A) point, no company wants to do "OK." Most companies aim to do great—specifically, to maximize shareholder value, something Apple has done quite well, even in spite of the recent stock price pullback. Per my original post, there's a world of difference between a manufacturer that controls a market and one that's just a smaller player in basically a commodity market. Apple is in the position of the former; most of the examples cited of manufacturers "pre-announcing" are in the latter. Moreover, there are lots of manufacturers that don't pre-announce, and they do "OK" too, to use your rather low standard.

On your (B) point, do you have any evidence to suggest what fraction of consumers would do this? More to the point, why would a halfway intelligent manufacturer who controls their market (i.e., isn't competing in the commoditized PC space, which is really what makes the difference) even present that as an option? Put another way, if PC manufacturer A pre-announces, they are not necessarily cannibalizing from sales today, but rather some fraction of sales today *AND* some faction of competitors' sales today.

On your final point, you refer to the term "research" in your last sentence, but that's implies something proactive. The whole point of advertisement is to push something in front of consumer and induce a reactive action.
 
In the words of Jim Carrey in Dumb and Dumber:

Lloyd: What do you think the chances are of a guy like you and a girl like me... ending up together?
Mary: Well, Lloyd, that's difficult to say. I mean, we don't really...
Lloyd: Hit me with it! Just give it to me straight! I came a long way just to see you, Mary. The least you can do is level with me. What are my chances?
Mary: Not good.
Lloyd: You mean, not good like one out of a hundred?
Mary: I'd say more like one out of a million.
[pause]
Lloyd: So you're telling me there's a chance... *YEAH!*

So I'm not the only who thought of that scene :D
 
Are you for real? 10 second test : Quick look to my right on the rss feed : Asus release Transformer Book Trio end of this month.
"Related news : (September 4 ) Final specs released for Transformer Trio"
"Related news : (June) Asus announced its Transformer Trio ".
If you're *that* of bad faith / too lazy to open any tech news site I'll post the French news site here but come on ...


... the ***** is this ? Who said that they do something to spite us ? They do it so they can maximize their profit.
So your argument here, is that people finding the whole process very disturbing to their professional and financial situations are just whiny kids, or so self-inflated that they believe a company is "trying to spit them" ?
Again, are you for real ?



...what.the.Hell.
That's exactly what I said earlier when I said there are fans who happily gobble the same BS every year which *really* doesn't help solving the problem.

This "refurbished = new" because it looks new, is total nonsense that only a die-hard fanboy, that contributes to this ongoing absurdity, can spurt out.
I'm fairly sure you'd be shocked if I was to sell you a car that was used for a year or so, had some parts replaced, like "new".
And no under those condition this price is *not* interesting. If it was new it would be, but in this case it's not.

And again, as a reminder for this and a few replies above, let me remind you we're talking about a machine for (and marketed as) "professional", not an iPhone or an iPad where this situation would be "just" frustrating, but not really that problematic.

Wow bro. You're mad.

On your first paragraph, see my response to ScubaCindi above.

On your second paragraph, I was responding to the toddler-like temper tantrum that set the whole thing off.

On the refurb thing, all I did was say that you can't tell the difference. Because you can't. If you can demonstrate otherwise, please, by all means do so. That whole point was entirely orthogonal to this discussion. I don't see in any event what being a "fan boy" would have to do with it, either. I just said they're a good deal, especially right now..'cuz they are. If your panties are in such a wad that you have to have the new white box today, then knock yourself out. I'm sure Apple or the third-party reseller you use will be delighted to have those additional profit margin dollars. It's not by accident that Apple's margins have exceeded that of the rest of the PC industry. Hint: it goes back to the commodity vs not-a-commodity discussion above.

I am, in fact, for "real." I'm sorry if my logic and my top-tier MBA education are upsetting to you. Actually, I lied—I'm not. Petulant children should not be indulged in their fantasies and tirades.
 
Your logic is inverted on so many different levels. Wow.

On your (A) point, no company wants to do "OK." Most companies aim to do great—specifically, to maximize shareholder value, something Apple has done quite well, even in spite of the recent stock price pullback. Per my original post, there's a world of difference between a manufacturer that controls a market and one that's just a smaller player in basically a commodity market. Apple is in the position of the former; most of the examples cited of manufacturers "pre-announcing" are in the latter. Moreover, there are lots of manufacturers that don't pre-announce, and they do "OK" too, to use your rather low standard.

On your (B) point, do you have any evidence to suggest what fraction of consumers would do this? More to the point, why would a halfway intelligent manufacturer who controls their market (i.e., isn't competing in the commoditized PC space, which is really what makes the difference) even present that as an option? Put another way, if PC manufacturer A pre-announces, they are not necessarily cannibalizing from sales today, but rather some fraction of sales today *AND* some faction of competitors' sales today.

On your final point, you refer to the term "research" in your last sentence, but that's implies something proactive. The whole point of advertisement is to push something in front of consumer and induce a reactive action.
Some appear to have reading comprehension problems. I'm not going to belabor my OPINION. We can't all be brilliant it seems. :rolleyes:
 
Rumors point to a 12inch macbook retina
http://feedly.com/k/GO9AAt

According to him, the new Retina Display MacBook will come with design. He predicts the device to ship with a 12-inch screen (but portable as 11 inch MacBook air), a Retina Display, a small weight profile, a new structure made of clamshell, an Intel chipset and a price tag that is below the current notebook offerings from Cupertino. And he expects it to ship in the second or third quarter of 2013.
 
Am i the only one here who still hopes that apple wont discontinuing the non retina Model? I Really DO need and want a matte screen and do not wanna spend 2000€ for an outdated machine. :(
 
Can't wait for tomorrow. I'm pretty sure about the event happening, so finally reading about the invites going out will be fun. Hope the invites give an indication of something related to the rMBP.

Yes, that they are going to have an event that might announce the rMBP as a small part of it. What a useful indication...
 
Rumors point to a 12inch macbook retina
http://feedly.com/k/GO9AAt

According to him, the new Retina Display MacBook will come with design. He predicts the device to ship with a 12-inch screen (but portable as 11 inch MacBook air), a Retina Display, a small weight profile, a new structure made of clamshell, an Intel chipset and a price tag that is below the current notebook offerings from Cupertino. And he expects it to ship in the second or third quarter of 2013.

That should read second or third quarter of 2014. The site you linked to made a typo in their re-interpretation of the 9to5mac article on the report.

Such is the state of the tech-blogging industry. Not only are 95% of them regurgitating what other sites have reported, but they're not even getting the essential facts right that are right there in the original articles.
 
Am i the only one here who still hopes that apple wont discontinuing the non retina Model? I Really DO need and want a matte screen and do not wanna spend 2000€ for an outdated machine. :(

While I'm hoping for an upgradable mac, I really don't see how they can keep the old macbook pro AND upgrade to pci express SSDs at the same time... Even if they upgrade the cmbp it will end up being much slower than the rmbp. PCI-E > SATA
 
Am i the only one here who still hopes that apple wont discontinuing the non retina Model? I Really DO need and want a matte screen and do not wanna spend 2000€ for an outdated machine. :(

I'm also one who's potentially wanting to have a matte screen for a change..oh well I guess you can't have both (Haswell and matte screen :p).
 
Earlier I asked if there will be a quad core 13" and the response was no. Are the only limitations in a 13" for a quad space and heat? Or am I totally off target?
 
There is absolutely no refurbished macbooks in the UK store anymore. A sign? Or more likely a misplace hope


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i feel like if i'm going to drop this much money, it's going to be my primary computer. i think 13" is too small to be a primary computer
 
Earlier I asked if there will be a quad core 13" and the response was no. Are the only limitations in a 13" for a quad space and heat? Or am I totally off target?

Yes. The "only" limitations are heat and power consumption. The quads simply use too much power for the small 13" chassis.
 
Earlier I asked if there will be a quad core 13" and the response was no. Are the only limitations in a 13" for a quad space and heat? Or am I totally off target?

I would think the big limitation is the space. Does anyone have a picture of the inside of a current gen 15" quad core machine vs a current 13" dual core? I would like to see the difference in logic boards.

I myself would get the buy the 15" for its specs, however its size is just a bit to big for my current use.
 
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