I stand in my reply. It would be epic if they did. I never said I believed him. You can't really believe anyone until it's officially announced
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Waiting for Haswell MBP Mega Thread
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Here's my dilemma.
Just started a new job and I'm suppose to buy a computer. I work as a digital designer so a standard macbook pro (non retina) would be best for me since most of the deliveries will be for non retina screens...
Now to my dilemma:
What is the most likely scenario for next week?
1. The standard Macbook Pro is unchanged.
2. The standard Macbook Pro gets upgraded with Haswell.
3. The standard Macbook Pro gets cancelled.
Should I put in an order on monday just to be safe and then cancel if number three happens?
Just started a new job and I'm suppose to buy a computer. I work as a digital designer so a standard macbook pro (non retina) would be best for me since most of the deliveries will be for non retina screens...
Now to my dilemma:
What is the most likely scenario for next week?
1. The standard Macbook Pro is unchanged.
2. The standard Macbook Pro gets upgraded with Haswell.
3. The standard Macbook Pro gets cancelled.
Should I put in an order on monday just to be safe and then cancel if number three happens?
Most likely to be unchanged or cancelled. I'd be surprised if it was upgraded.
I'm also waiting for the post of that guy that works in a warehouse that is saying that there are A LOT OF APPLE BOXES moving, FAR MORE THAN USUAL, and that something is certainly coming!
I don't know why people keep repeating this stuff, because it's not true at all.
The 13" has much more thermal headroom than the current 35W processor it holds (see Anandtech's review, the thermals section). The 15" has to throttle when running it's 90W CPU and GPU full tilt. At full tilt the 13" doesn't even run its fans at max speed, let alone throttle. The fact that the current 35W processors don't even touch the thermal roof of the 13" makes going to 28W a pretty baffling decision.
There is also plenty of space- unlike the 15" there is nothing under the trackpad in the 13" currently just wasted space.
There is no, I repeat, no technical reason the 13" couldn't handle a 45W quad. The thermals could handle it, there's enough room and the battery shouldn't see much change unless you're doing heavy lifting which you shouldn't be doing off battery anyway. You might actually see battery improvement since there is more room for throttling and a higher performance per watt ratio.
I would love to see a 2.0 (BTO 2.3) quad iris pro in the 13" while the 15" gets the 750m which we know it will now. It would really differentiate the 13" from the MBA which I think it needs. It also needs to be closer to the 15" because currently you can pay a few $100 more and double your performance going from the 13 to the 15 - which is why every review said the 13" rMBP was pretty bad value for money. You can get an air far cheaper, or double your performance with a 15". The 13" is also the only laptop in the Apple line that would actually benefit from Iris pro as opposed to it being a downgrade from the current machines, so is the only one it makes sense to put it in.
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my prediction (cause i'm unofficially an analyst
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cMBP:
Unchanged. Continues to be offered in store as a legacy product.
13" rMBP:
1. Haswell dual-core i5/i7 ULV processors.
2. iGZO display at the current resolutions.
3. Base storage to 256gb.
4. dGPU - Nvidia GT 735m. iGPU - 4600 (Power savings from both iGZO and Haswell should very well compensate for the power
5. 8hrs battery life? (not any higher due to the inclusion of dGPU.)
6. Pricing - Remains constant or $100 less.
15" rMBP
1. Haswell Quad-core i5/i7 processors.
2. iGZO display at current resolutions.
3. Base storage 256gb/512gb (doubt it would be 512gb as prices havent not decreased drastically as yet)
4. dGPU - Nvidia GT 755m - 760m. Potential GTX 7xx series.
5. 9-10 hrs battery life.
6. Pricing - Remains constant or $100 less.
):cMBP:
Unchanged. Continues to be offered in store as a legacy product.
13" rMBP:
1. Haswell dual-core i5/i7 ULV processors.
2. iGZO display at the current resolutions.
3. Base storage to 256gb.
4. dGPU - Nvidia GT 735m. iGPU - 4600 (Power savings from both iGZO and Haswell should very well compensate for the power
5. 8hrs battery life? (not any higher due to the inclusion of dGPU.)
6. Pricing - Remains constant or $100 less.
15" rMBP
1. Haswell Quad-core i5/i7 processors.
2. iGZO display at current resolutions.
3. Base storage 256gb/512gb (doubt it would be 512gb as prices havent not decreased drastically as yet)
4. dGPU - Nvidia GT 755m - 760m. Potential GTX 7xx series.
5. 9-10 hrs battery life.
6. Pricing - Remains constant or $100 less.
Thank you! Thank you! Thank you !!!! I keep repeating this on this thread over and over again but that doesn't stop people from stating the 13" cannot use the quad.
The reason that the 13" is still dual core I assume are product positioning from a price and performance perspective and maybe battery life. I would still hope for a high end quad core version.
They better announce something breath taking. I mean if it will just be a haswell update then i will be really disappointed. I mean they had enough time to just do the refresh. If they will reschedule it for februray 2014 then i will really think about buying a MBP again...I mean even if they would not be ready for mass production i would rather have them to announce the mbp first so we can decide what to buy or not.
Yeah if it's only the haswell chip update, they could have done that when the airs got their bump in June
my prediction (cause i'm unofficially an analyst
cMBP:
Unchanged. Continues to be offered in store as a legacy product.
13" rMBP:
1. Haswell dual-core i5/i7 ULV processors.
2. iGZO display at the current resolutions.
3. Base storage to 256gb.
4. dGPU - Nvidia GT 735m. iGPU - 4600 (Power savings from both iGZO and Haswell should very well compensate for the power
5. 8hrs battery life? (not any higher due to the inclusion of dGPU.)
6. Pricing - Remains constant or $100 less.
15" rMBP
1. Haswell Quad-core i5/i7 processors.
2. iGZO display at current resolutions.
3. Base storage 256gb/512gb (doubt it would be 512gb as prices havent not decreased drastically as yet)
4. dGPU - Nvidia GT 755m - 760m. Potential GTX 7xx series.
5. 9-10 hrs battery life.
6. Pricing - Remains constant or $100 less.
The GPU will probably be Iris 5100 on the 13 and Iris Pro 5200 for the base 15, see the leaked benchmarks. Rumored optional for the 15 will be a GT760M upgrade compareable to the iMac. Secondly the current screen will stay.
I don't work in a warehouse but for NASA and from my sattelite images, I can see FLOTILLAS of CONTAINER SHIPS headed from China to the USA. They all carry clearly visible Apple logos. Something big is up!
All current Iris Pro products are quad core. So either Apple got their hands on an exclusive dual core Iris Pro part or the 13 will get a quad core. Both are unlikely.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haswell_(microarchitecture)
I think you completely misunderstood my post, lol. I didn't say that any invitation would be a useful indication. I said that I hope the invitations might give a hint at something regarding the rMBP. Exaggerated example of an invitation: we see shadows of iPad's on the left, shadow's of Mac's on the right (and seeing that they are the Mac Pro, Mini and MacBook).
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Exactly! Not thermals are the problem but product differentiation. I think Apple has to think about if they want to differentiate the Pro from the Air - then the 13" should get a Quad Core option - or, as it is now, the 15" from the 13".
Btw. Yes this has been talked about more than once, but look at the join dates, most of the guys in this thread have not been here back then
Hello everyone, first post here. Been following the thread for about a month.
IMO it's simple as this: they're just waiting to release it along Mavericks, wether they announce it or not on the event, I'm positive they will release it next week (maybe just after the event).
IMO it's simple as this: they're just waiting to release it along Mavericks, wether they announce it or not on the event, I'm positive they will release it next week (maybe just after the event).
Invites should go out today
Not the end of the world if they do not though. There will be an event the 22nd. So invites today or tomorrow.They're not telling they'll be announced at the event, just that they'll be available next week
Because Lion and Mountain Lion were released during the summer. This year they put all of their engineer workforce for iOS7 so Mavericks had to be delayed. What better way to release a new OS than along their highest end laptop.
Anyway it's just a matter of time...
Anyway it's just a matter of time...
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