Waiting for Haswell MBP Mega Thread

[Orr]

Based on my dealings with Intel, they are delaying because there is more profit in waiting and selling current architecture since AMD is so far behind.

Sounds about right. We're way ahead of our competition, so let's sit on our ass while they catch up...

The underlying interests of shareholders work far too often in inverse proportion to those of consumers. The great irony of course being that aside from significant overlap between these two frequently warring factions, each is dependent upon the continued well-being of the other to survive and ultimately thrive.

 

[adjeff8]

None? No cognitive dissonance at all when combining the first part of this phrase with the second part? Really?

Huh? I'm just saying I generally take good care of these things and I've never had any damage on any of my iPhones in the 5 years I've had them. Which one of us has never accidentally put their phone in the same pocket as their keys??? With the past iPhones this wouldn't have been enough to DENT the phone, well, because GLASS DOESNT DENT.

The contentious people on this thread are getting soooo boring.

 

[Vanilla35]

The underlying interests of shareholders work far too often in inverse proportion to those of consumers. The great irony of course being that aside from significant overlap between these two frequently warring factions, each is dependent upon the continued well-being of the other to survive and ultimately thrive.

Yes yes, you can say that about many things. However the apparently highly convoluted thought process of them eating easy profit margins in place of continuing on their inevitable master plan of die shrinking is ludicrous. That wouldn't happen, it's for another reason that they're delaying it. Keep in mind it was delayed just a few months ago, before being switched back. Now it's being delayed again to the original time frame

 

[Starfyre]

I think theres a physical limit to how much they can shrink the die, anyone recall how much?

 

[sarakn]

None? No cognitive dissonance at all when combining the first part of this phrase with the second part? Really?

Isn't it funny?

 

[ParanoidDroid]

Over 12,000 posts... I wonder what will happen if MacBooks are not being mentioned during the event next week...

 

[sarakn]

Huh? I'm just saying I generally take good care of these things and I've never had any damage on any of my iPhones in the 5 years I've had them. Which one of us has never accidentally put their phone in the same pocket as their keys??? With the past iPhones this wouldn't have been enough to DENT the phone, well, because GLASS DOESNT DENT.

The contentious people on this thread are getting soooo boring.

I think the other poster meant that you did not seem to think keys could not possibly cause damage to glass. Glass may not dent, but it could scratch.
Anyway, let's all be mellow - we've waited so long and we're about to claw each other's eyes out.

It's the stress of it.

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Over 12,000 posts... I wonder what will happen if MacBooks are not being mentioned during the event next week...

There will be blood!

 

[adjeff8]

I think the other poster meant that you did not seem to think keys could not possibly cause damage to glass. Glass may not dent, but it could scratch.
Anyway, let's all be mellow - we've waited so long and we're about to claw each other's eyes out.

It's the stress of it.

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There will be blood!

Well, anyway, it's never happened before. Anyway, it's not a scratch it's a dent and I'm not even sure that's what happened. The dent just appeared. I haven't done anything rough in the two weeks I've had it so I thought to myself "Maybe I put it in my pocket with my keys or something" Only thing I can think of. Not even sure I even did that. Back to my original point, the backside to the 5 and 5s is easily dentable, as opposed to the previous model. That's all I'm saying here, folks

 

[Freyqq]

I think theres a physical limit to how much they can shrink the die, anyone recall how much?

10 nm is a possible limit with silicon. Other materials being investigated (ex. graphene) could be less, though.

 

[Orr]

Yes yes, you can say that about many things. However the apparently highly convoluted thought process of them eating easy profit margins in place of continuing on their inevitable master plan of die shrinking is ludicrous. That wouldn't happen, it's for another reason that they're delaying it. Keep in mind it was delayed just a few months ago, before being switched back. Now it's being delayed again to the original time frame

I'm aware of the timeline. And is nibbling at those profit margins until the very last bite really that crazy? I could have been talking about Apple and not Intel in my previous musings.

 

[GSPice]

Waiting for Haswell and discussing iphone pocket damage. Interesting.

 

[Starfyre]

At this point, all that is left is to wait... with some degree of certainty that they are definitely coming.

 

[Previse]

Over 12,000 posts... I wonder what will happen if MacBooks are not being mentioned during the event next week...

Anarchy.

 

[Dubberton]

Over 12,000 posts... I wonder what will happen if MacBooks are not being mentioned during the event next week...

I'd get an air on amazon so I had a good return period in case the pros come out.

This is after I light my hair on fire and punch myself in the balls of course.

 

[Vanilla35]

I'm aware of the timeline. And is nibbling at those profit margins until the very last bite really that crazy? I could have been talking about Apple and not Intel in my previous musings.

You can't say apple and Intel are comparable in that sense. Apple is essentially a retailer, which has much different intent but also different customers. History alone shows you that chip manufactures have not had this intention before. They offer a revision chip, like they will for Haswell in the spring, as a hold-off to satiate the needs for progress while they work behind the scenes on their next big chip.

Apple essentially does something very similar with the "S" series phones, for similar reasons. However it is not the same. They provide new chips for every phone they make. If they were to keep similar chips with each new "series" people would say it's the same phone with a bigger screen, etc. But with the "S" series since they provide new chips and also a few features, they are able to meet the balance in between - for customers who also want performance primarily.

This is part of why Apple's S line is just as successful as the regular revisions. They thread the line. If they were to not do this, and in so doing, appropriate to what Intel does, it would be equivalent to apple going from a A5 chip in the iPhone 4 to an A5x chip in the 4S (in concept - not technically *with quad core graphics, etc*)

I think theres a physical limit to how much they can shrink the die, anyone recall how much?

I think it was 8nm where the process gets extremely difficult. But that's way off in 2018 or after. Should be interesting, assuming we start to see hybrid tablet laptop products around 2020. If that's the case then certaintly by 2030 we should start to see those "sci-fi" products we've seen in movies

 

[PDFierro]

Hell yeah, less than a week now. I am pumped!

 

[toneLA]

if someone has the time, it would totally be worth going through the posts and bringing up the people swearing the macbook pro wouldn't come out this year so we can laugh at their trolly faces.

+1

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here it is the event troll!!!!!

Another hater in the hole!!!! :d

+1

 

[tmiw]

Here's hoping for a 16GB RAM option for the 13".

 

[powerslave12r]

And here's hoping for a 8GB/256GB base config on all rMBPs.

 

[AXs]

I really wanted to get a 13" rMBP the recent summer. But I'm not a fan of getting last year's technology so instead I went with a a Haswell Air despite my familiarity with retina display on my iPad.

I'm really glad I didn't wait and pulled the trigger in July. Would have been waiting for a new rMBP up till mid November.

 

[OceanMindedBoy]

And here's hoping for a 8GB/256GB base config on all rMBPs.

This! #####

 

[PDFierro]

And here's hoping for a 8GB/256GB base config on all rMBPs.

Agreed. I've always been interested in the 13-inch, there's only an extremely small chance I'd go with the 15.

16GB RAM would be nice, too. But I'm pretty satisfied with the upgrades the 13 will be getting.

 

[raybies]

Here's hoping for a std 15" model with 32GB + i7-4930MX + 1TB SSD.
I need to run a Windows server farm on it.

I've got 32GB on my current notebook, and using 29GB right now.

 

[PDFierro]

Here's hoping for a std 15" model with 32GB + i7-4930MX + 1TB SSD.
I need to run a Windows server farm on it.

I've got 32GB on my current notebook, and using 29GB right now.

That's crazy. Anyways, don't expect 32GB this year.

 

[GSPice]

Here's hoping for a std 15" model with 32GB + i7-4930MX + 1TB SSD.
I need to run a Windows server farm on it.

I've got 32GB on my current notebook, and using 29GB right now.

Yeah man I've got a bunch of VMs going for some work.. they'll take as much ram as you can throw at it and more..

If 32GB is available, I'll get it. But I'm only expecting 16GB.