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No that is, thought the retina was older, yea they wouldn't redesign it after a year and a few months

I'm not saying they will (or expecting them to) but Apple redesigned both the original iPhones and iPads after the first generation.

Their computer lines are different, so I definitely don't think we can expect a redesign. What would they do anyway? Make it thinner? It's already thin enough in my opinion.
 
Waiting for Haswell MBP Mega Thread

This thread will make it well past 20,000 replies cause it won't be announced on Tuesday...

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I for one will partake in this comment, even though I do participate (only since ~June though - and I'm not even planning on buying Haswell).

I think GSPice's comments were/are great. Guaranteed to be funny 8/10 of the time :D

I also think that Jon123 guy is awesome. Even though he is the epitome of an overly zealous self-entitled douchebag. He would say something like "I am, indeed, for real. With my top-tier MBA" :D . He'll probably get mad at my comment but I think he's great. Many don't realize that if you ignore the negative effect of what he has to say then you can easily appreciate his precise logic and point of view.

Whoops, I forgot to put you, GSPice, and Jon123 in there. Yeah, his comments are pretty funny, and the Jon123 guy is the is to me, negative mcarling who talks more.

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I'd have to say that you, along with PDFierro and KUGuardGirl seem to be some of the best. Then there are those who are pessimistic and bring the whole mood of the thread down.

Thanks, I appreciate it.

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So what kind of alternate reality do you live in?

A one where we all drink way too much coffee before the 22nd and as a result of the surge in caffeine and the shock of Apple not releasing the haswell rmbp, we all take to this thread to voice our various opinions in our posts, replete with numerous spelling and grammatical errors. Many arguments would spring up because of the high-tempered members of this thread being spurred on by disappointment and caffeine.
 
Who loves reading the marketing material on Apple's website? Think I will have to do that as I order.
 
Oh 3D + CUDA, and PROfessionals? Oh, really? :eek:

need CUDA to render?

What kind of "PRO" 3D package does run on Mac OS and support CUDA?

Guess what, I'm a happy Luxology modo (PRO)user. Modo is probably the only serious "PRO" 3D application on Macs, but there is NO CUDA support.

The only half-successful GPU based 3rd party render engine (in the world) is the "Octane Render", but that's so special and niche that it's completely out of scope for Apple's "PRO" marketing.

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I'm so sick and tired of those "PRO" arguments! Clearly, the major target audience for mac books are rich college kids, who buy Mac Books not because they're "PRO" but because they expect "PRESTIGE" on their campus.

Then there is also still a market among the DTP and media professionals because of decade-long "IMAGE inertia" <-go figure :D

P.S. Adobe Creative Suite (PRO) also runs on "cheap" PCs (less ca$h).

not that your argument even deserves a response, but I will reply anyway.. Modo is the only Pro 3D app for a mac? haha.. what about cinema 4d, max, or maya? pro user fail...
 
On a separate note, to all you people who only read this thread and not participate in it, who is your favourite thread contributor here?

I thought there would be some more people who only read this thread and have not participated in it, so to everyone here, who is your favourite thread contributor here?

I'll start, for some sort of technical info, I would probably go with mcarling, but most of the time I would say it's PDFeirro.
 
Apple released the haswell airs nearly instantly with. Pretty small upgrade, yea the processors lead to way more battery life but still other than that no major changes.

Chances are apple could've simply added haswell to the retina and released it fairly quickly. Yes they could easily just have decided to wait a few months, but I feel as if apple wouldn't take 4 months to release a laptop with the same update that took nearly no time for the air. They must be making some other change. Is it not possible that they're updating the chassis slightly? They haven't updated it for the retina ever have they?

It's possible they will make bigger changes but I wouldn't count on it. There's 3 28W HD 5100 processors suitable for the 13" rMBP and they were all released Q3 '13

http://ark.intel.com/compare/75992,75991,75990

...and 3 of the 4 47W HD 5200 processors for the 15" rMBP were Q3 '13 while one's Q4 '13

http://ark.intel.com/compare/76085,76086,76087,76088
 
A one where we all drink way too much coffee before the 22nd and as a result of the surge in caffeine and the shock of Apple not releasing the haswell rmbp, we all take to this thread to voice our various opinions in our posts, replete with numerous spelling and grammatical errors. Many arguments would spring up because of the high-tempered members of this thread being spurred on by disappointment and caffeine.

If Fringe taught me anything, it's that there is no coffee in the alternate universe.
 
Me too. I'll probably miss all the good contributors to this thread, like you, PDFeirro, ValSalva, Mcarling, KUGuardGirl, Johnny large, adjeff, CmdrLaForge, GSPice, VanillaCracker, John123, etc. These conversations are usually very informative and interesting, and when the new rmbp comes out, I'll probably have learned more from this thread than if I never participated or read it at all

I'd have to say that you, along with PDFierro and KUGuardGirl seem to be some of the best. Then there are those who are pessimistic and bring the whole mood of the thread down.

Well I'm glad you guys think my comments are worthwhile! I feel like it's mostly been a tirade of "My computer sucks!! I need a new one to check Facebook nao!!!!! Trolls are mean!!" I can't even recall how I first got into this thread anymore, and I haven't been around too terribly long.

It's like we're a bunch of soldiers fighting a war together (apologies to any vets who might be offended; thank you for your service!) or a party in a role playing game. We've suffered so much together that it'll be sad to see everyone go their separate ways. Clearly we should start a "Waiting for Haswell MBP Veterans Recovery Thread"!
 
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OpenGL performance is much greater on the 6xx/7xx cards than Iris Pro.

Going Iris Pro will drop performance in... oh hell...

1) Xcode (iOS Simulator is a prime suspect)
2) Photoshop CS6 (OpenGL is used MORE than OpenCL. In fact, as far as I know, only 2 features in CS6 actually make use of OpenCL, while a lot rely and require OpenGL)
3) AutoCAD (relies on OpenGL for its 3D engine to render to the screen)
4) Maya (relies on OpenGL for its 3D engine to render to the screen)
5) Solidworks (relies on OpenGL for its 3D engine to render to the screen)
6) AfterEffects CS6 (relies exclusively on CUDA for its ray-tracing engine)

Even if you don't use the machine for rendering, dropping OpenGL performance will cause issues with a lot of applications, and there is no way around it.

For those of us who are expecting decent OpenGL performance from these machines just to display our 3D models in AutoCAD or similar applications, I'm sure the dedicated graphics still have its place.

And unless Apple can somehow make 128MB of SLOWER video RAM equal 1024MB (read: 8 times more) of FASTER video RAM, there is still that memory issue that can't be fixed either way.

thanks alot!!! really help me for decide between the 13'' and the 15'' :D
first year of mechanical engineering
 
This thread will make it well past 20,000 replies cause it won't be announced on Tuesday...

:(

If by Tuesday you mean yesterday, then yes, you are right. I am 100% sure the new rMBP won't be announced yesterday.
 
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Anyone find it odd how quiet things are when it comes to the Retina Macbook Pro? No part leaks or anything, unlike the iPad or iPhone.
 
Anyone find it odd how quiet things are when it comes to the Retina Macbook Pro? No part leaks or anything, unlike the iPad or iPhone.

It isn't that odd. The market for the iPad and the iPhone is by far larger than the market for MBPs. I sincerely doubt that even half of the leaks released on any of their products weren't pre approved by Apple upper management. They benefit more from leaking stuff about iStuff for the hype because there are more people who are willing to replace their mobile devices every year than there are people who will replace their laptops every year.
 
I completely agree. No matter how you look at it, Intel's Iris Pro is mediocre at best.

Next year when Broadwell hits, maybe Intel's integrated GPU will show some interesting numbers... provided they can also embed some more video RAM in there for us texture maniacs.

And I'd say... anyone who says more video memory isn't important probably hasn't had to deal with architectural drawings with a lot of textures and details.

Sure, you can drop the amount of visible textures and details down to fit in that 128MB of video RAM, but having 1024MB to play around with does help. And that's not to mention every texture would have to be quite big in resolution either way to take advantage of the Retina display.

thanks alot!!! really help me for decide between the 13'' and the 15'' :D
first year of mechanical engineering

Yeah... seriously...

I haven't had much time to go back and discuss this lately, but it just irks me when people start making stuffs up in an attempt to justify the next rMBP having Iris Pro.

There's a reason why the very recent Haswell iMac refresh has Iris Pro only in the lowest-end configuration! And only on the 21.5". The 27" iMac doesn't have an Iris option at all.

Even Apple knows that Iris Pro isn't a viable option for their "non-Pro" computers...
 
Anyone find it odd how quiet things are when it comes to the Retina Macbook Pro? No part leaks or anything, unlike the iPad or iPhone.

It's not odd. iPhone and iPad leaks get Foxconn turncoats much more money than yawn-inducing personal computers.
 
Next year when Broadwell hits, maybe Intel's integrated GPU will show some interesting numbers... provided they can also embed some more video RAM in there for us texture maniacs.

And I'd say... anyone who says more video memory isn't important probably hasn't had to deal with architectural drawings with a lot of textures and details.

Sure, you can drop the amount of visible textures and details down to fit in that 128MB of video RAM, but having 1024MB to play around with does help. And that's not to mention every texture would have to be quite big in resolution either way to take advantage of the Retina display.



Yeah... seriously...

I haven't had much time to go back and discuss this lately, but it just irks me when people start making stuffs up in an attempt to justify the next rMBP having Iris Pro.

There's a reason why the very recent Haswell iMac refresh has Iris Pro only in the lowest-end configuration! And only on the 21.5". The 27" iMac doesn't have an Iris option at all.

Even Apple knows that Iris Pro isn't a viable option for their "non-Pro" computers...

broadwell got delayed, probably to 2015. knowing apple, we probably wont' see a broadwell refresh until summer of 2015, bummer. i wonder if next year will then make a function refresh and not so much of the silicone. that'd be interesting.

also, i think it's impossible for apple to get Iris Pro inside the 13". there aren't any chips that can fit in their with the right TDP
 
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