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Waiting for Haswell MBP Mega Thread
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Yep, it just seems silly to me to BTO the base processor with a 256gb SSD if there's a standard model for not that much more. I think the current different between the 2.5ghz and 2.6ghz both with a 256 is as little as $20 in the education store.
A price drop would make it that much sweeter, but I'm not completely holding my breath.
Keep in mind there are two base models.
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Yeah, I don't think the i7 would be worth it in your case. I'm probably going to get it because I can afford it and would just like the i7.
Besides, if you currently order the 2.5 with 256GB, that counts as a BTO. Worth it to pay the $20 more and just pick it up at the store hassle-free.
I'm speculating that Apple is trying to position the Mac Pro as their primary professional product line, possibly at the expense of the Macbook Pro.
When you consider my above speculation, and consider the recent news that Apple is combining their Retina MacBook Pro and MacBook Air product lines into a single combo-top line (source: https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/1653641/), it's looking more and more like Apple plans to offer two "traditional" computer product lines:
- The new Mac Pros
- The new combo-tops
But only three (and not four) CPUs.
Could it be that the upgrade from i5 to i7 costs the same even if one of the two i5 is faster?
Moreover the faster i5 is very close in Ghz with the i7. It may even be that we will come up with the slower i5 and the i7.
PDFierro, why it looks like you are going for the i7? I agree with you as for MBA (where the i5 is extremely slow) but for the 28W CPUs do you think it worth it?
That article says nothing about Apple condensing the MBA and MBP lines. It does say about the MBA condensing the 11 and 13-inch Airs into a singular 12-inch model.
Apple is not compromising the MBP line for the Mac Pro or any other product. That much is obvious.
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I think it's more worth it on the MBA. But I'll probably go for the i7 just because I can. I would feel better about maxing out the processor than I would buying excess RAM or storage that I do not need.
But you're right, we could see a similar upgrade path like the MBA offers.
It depends on what you are doing with your MBP. I know people howl here when anyone says professional but I am a professional. I make my living using my MBPr. My tools are XCode, Visual Studio, Eclipse, Net Beans, VMware, Parallels, Visual Studio, MySQL, etc...
Let's say I shave 30 seconds off every compile I do on a really large project. That adds up. In a year that could be days or weeks. Those extra days or weeks are more projects which gives me more money.
When you run your own consulting business, you have to think long term. Yo u have to ask: How does this give me more time? How does this give me more money? How can I use this to my advantage?
I bought 8 GB of memory when it was $500.00. I bought 16GB @ $700.00. I would pay $700 for 32 GB of memory if it was available. More VMs open means more productivity...
I hope this helps explain why these items really are important,
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Ahh, thanks for that clarification. Does that mean we're unlikely to see a slimmer form-factor after tomorrow's deadline?
It depends on your usage but I can't help you there. Generally I would say it is not worth the money and if you don't know what L3-cache is, then you probably don't need that extra 33%. Just google 6MB vs 8MB cache.
Ahh, thanks for that clarification. Does that mean we're unlikely to see a slimmer form-factor after tomorrow's deadline?
I would expect the rMBA to come out in mid-2014, perhaps around WWDC. But that's the MBA, and not the MBP. The rMBP just got its major redesign last year.
Here's hoping! I checked Everymac, and there hasn't always been a low and high i5 although there were with the C2Ds.
Despite the fact that i5 and i7 have been out for a long while now, I'm still a noob lol. Not that I paid much attention to processor speeds before either.
I think there will be. There are only two processors with the Haswell MBA, yet there are still 2 base models.
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https://www.macrumors.com/2013/10/21/u-s-mac-sales-continue-to-sag-ahead-of-october-updates/
Thanks for the reassurance
I always hate seeing computer sales slump articles. The comments about the lack of a refresh are valid, but it's still worrisome.
Lol about iPod sales. Gone are the 2000s where the average suburban teens and preteens had iPods. Now parents just pass off their old iPhones sans SIMs or just go straight for the iPhones or iPads.
Thanks for the reassurance
I always hate seeing computer sales slump articles. The comments about the lack of a refresh are valid, but it's still worrisome.
Lol about iPod sales. Gone are the 2000s where the average suburban teens and preteens had iPods. Now parents just pass off their old iPhones sans SIMs or just go straight for the iPhones or iPads.
In order to have 2 base models, Apple will need to have something to differentiate the 2. I think they have that: 128GB and 256GB SSDs separating them. That's a big part of why I think Apple won't have 256GB on the low-end base model.
512GB on the 15-inch high-end base model is logical, but I could not see Apple offering 512 on the high-end model for the 13-inch. And if 256GB were the same option on both, the only thing separating them would be a minimal processor upgrade and/or RAM.
But I think we'll see the 128 and 256 on low-end/high-end. The two questions I have are 1) will 16GB RAM be an option and 2) will there be the 2 i5 processors and 1 i7, or just the 1 i5 and the 1 i7.
I'm considering buying one of the new iPads, but it's going to take some convincing. I almost ordered the iPhone 5S, but I just couldn't convince myself to pull the trigger. Where as I can spend 2 grand on a Mac without question. I think an iPad would suit me more at this time than a smartphone would, though.
It is sad that Mac sales are constantly declining. But as long as they make enough for Apple to keep making them, then I can't complain.
After over 13000 posts I feel completely brainwashed, at this point I could buy anything they'll present tomorrow, even a 6kg MacBook Pro with 386 CPU and a 640x480 CRT display!
Good night, have some sleep guys, tomorrow will be a looooooong day!
Good night, have some sleep guys, tomorrow will be a looooooong day!
I'm with you. This time last year, rMBP was not even on my horizon - in fact, I did not even know that was the name of Apple's laptop line. "Command+Q?" What's that? I was still thinking it's 1999 and saying 'open apple Q'.
After countless hours watching YT videos, learning the difference between time capsule and time machine, and all points in between, I'm so close to giving away my barely used Dell XPS desktop and about the throw money at all things mac. This is no longer a want, this is a must-have or something bad is going to happen.
ha!
Last week, I thought I had the weekend to blow through and Monday (working from home) before the big day. It feels like I've posted more in the past 96 hours than in the past few weeks.
Well, in a few hours I'll board my flight and will probably check in tonight as we ride this countdown wave.
And if the stars are aligned and something is released or available for purchase tomorrow, I will not have a mac in hand until Oct 31st at the earliest.
No World Cup? Wouldn't even notice. To busy watching the Super Bowl, World Series, NBA Championships and Stanley Cup.
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Yes. That 2% iPod revenue figure is alarming. You don't know how many times I thought about getting an iPod and duct-taping it to the backside of a $19 no-contract phone. 5 iPhones in the house at $80 a pop is killing me.
I hate Apple.
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