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Final Prediction for tomorrow:

- New iPads (retina Mini and iPad 5)
- New iPads will have touchID


- Mavericks will get official release on 10/30
- New MacPro Pre-Orders (wont ship until ~mid Nov)
- New Macbook Pro Pre-Orders (Wont ship until ~mid Nov)
- MBP will contain Haswell, Wi-Fi AC, IGZO, integrated GPU

It's been fun all! :D Let's see what happens tomorrow on :apple:mas

No IGZO and I think they'll be available immediately or within a couple of days after the keynote.
 
With so much excitement here and people posting like crazy, I had to read for almost 50 minutes on my way to work (internship). I basically got in the bus and when I finished reading I was almost at work lol. Strange thing is I had to change the bus after 30min.. automatic pilot mode I guess.

I'm not gonna get any work done today. My head is just a big countdown to the event :D Pretty stupid actually, I'm going to miss being able to afford food.
 
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Final Prediction for tomorrow:

- New iPads (retina Mini and iPad 5)
- New iPads will have touchID


- Mavericks will get official release on 10/30
- New MacPro Pre-Orders (wont ship until ~mid Nov)
- New Macbook Pro Pre-Orders (Wont ship until ~mid Nov)
- MBP will contain Haswell, Wi-Fi AC, IGZO, integrated GPU

It's been fun all! :D Let's see what happens tomorrow on :apple:mas

Tomorrow? It's happening TODAY!! :D (joking.. I live in Denmark. It's 22/10 at 8am. So actually is today).

You other guys: Have a good night's sleep :p :apple:
 
Im afraid Apple is not innovative nowadays and in a post Jobs era Apple can easily fall behind Dell. My guess is that Apple wont release these IGZO panels until 2014 and still claim they have the best panels.

Im afraid Apple under Cook has lost it.

Also its not about if they can do it but about if they want to do it or simply are too much into ipad/iphone to care enough about Macs these days.

Hah. Let's see what happened with the macs under cook: new redesigned retina MBPs, new macbook airs which are praised for the battery life, a WHOLE NEW MAC PRO that people weren't expecting. What did you really want? Is this not innovative enough for a single company in the space of two years?
 
IMO, seems legit. I was expecting exactly something like this.

In case this is the real deal, I wonder how much the entry level rMBP 15" will cost. Of its really a big difference with the first dGPU option, I might go for iGPU only.

I'll choose Iris Pro. I hate the GPU switching.

Regarding the price, I think it'll maybe receive a $100 drop. But looking at the iMac base with Iris Pro, that is the same cost as the previous generation.

I'm just a little worried, that the Iris Pro part is 2GHz.. And the current rMBP Ivy Bridge has a 2.3GHz. Will it make much difference performance wise? Or will the improved Haswell "cover" for that 300MHz loss?
 
I'll choose Iris Pro. I hate the GPU switching.

Regarding the price, I think it'll maybe receive a $100 drop. But looking at the iMac base with Iris Pro, that is the same cost as the previous generation.

I'm just a little worried, that the Iris Pro part is 2GHz.. And the current rMBP Ivy Bridge has a 2.3GHz. Will it make much difference performance wise? Or will the improved Haswell "cover" for that 300MHz loss?

Haswell has lower clock speeds all-around, but from what I've heard there is no performance loss.
 
Yes, the 2.0 GHz has about same performance as the 2.3 Ghz Ivy bridge. This has been stated numerous times in this thread.

We saw a 4950 HQ in the Geekbench results which "only" has a 2.4Ghz but it has about same performance as the current high end Ivy Bridge.

Anyways, I think it's very likely they will release a lower end Iris Pro only option. I'm going to go the dGPU route though. Only question is will it have both the Intel 4600 + 7xxM dGPU or just the 7xxM dGPU?
 
It's going to be absolutely hilarious when people come on here saying 'OMG, I waited 8 months for this. This is all Apple did?'.
 
Hah. Let's see what happened with the macs under cook: new redesigned retina MBPs, new macbook airs which are praised for the battery life, a WHOLE NEW MAC PRO that people weren't expecting. What did you really want? Is this not innovative enough for a single company in the space of two years?

What you call innovation I call updates :p
 
Haswell has lower clock speeds all-around, but from what I've heard there is no performance loss.

Looking at the Haswell Air, I think you're right.

2012 model: 1.8GHz i5 (base 13") scores 4711 in Geekbench2.
2013 model: 1.3GHz i5 (base 13") scores 7010 in Geekbench2.

So it's quite an improvement while having lower clockspeeds! Both the MBA's in Geekbench has 4GB 1600MHz RAM.
 
Tomorrow? It's happening TODAY!!

It's happening yesterday for me!


Here's the translation (google) of the leaked specs that Arid got from a Chinese site...

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10/ 17
*********Went to the conference , this time people are concerned about 13/15retina have been updated .
**********13retina: nothing changes , nothing more than change a CPU , the maximum memory is 16G. 1TB hard disk
**********15retina: The big change , of course, is an internal , not appearance. This sub 2 versions , integrated graphics and discrete graphics version version.
The first is the low version : integrated graphics 15-inch RETINA, Oh, this estimate will not buy much, might as well buy the old models .
A separate graphics card : independent 2G memory card , what video card ? ? ? We look at IMAC upgrade will understand , of course, 16G memory , the hard drive has 1TB oh.


**********Actually speaking more disappointed , the 13-inch is still no independent graphics card , intel graphics no matter how powerful it is still NV graphics fly ( I am a N meal, huh )
**********Come to talk about those things hard , and we have said earlier 1TB hard drive originally used in this notebook ah , huh, huh . AIR hard that we experience the strength of it , and that is also the case of RETINA .


10/18
********Something that today update ? Update the minimum configuration
********13retina memory is the lowest with 2.4 4G hard drive is 128 ( this should be castrated version , in order to compensate for 13 ordinary PRO,
********15retina minimum distribution is 2.0/8/256 integrated graphics ( this should be a complement of 15 ordinary pro 's )

********Up next we questioned Re : 1:1 TB of SSD, we wait for it , 1tb is not large, May I post it said that there was a 1TB .
**********************************************2 : discrete graphics version of the 15-inch RETINA memory is 16G, 16G is from the slip of the tongue , of course, there will be no more, huh
********Other configurations to bring you tomorrow

10/ 19
******That update point configuration it again today
******13retina cpu / memory / hard drive
***********************2.4/4/128
***********************2.4/8/256
***********************2.4/8/512
***********************2.8/8/512
***********************2.8/16/1tb ( Custom )

*****15retina 2.0CPU/8g memory / 256G ssd set was
**********************2.3/16/512/2G discrete graphics
**********************2.6/16/1tb/2G discrete graphics ( custom )

******I feel no need to specifically what it leaks , model number is not published . We waited conference bar.
******Reply biggest question everyone : 13 and 15 the minimum configuration , why go backwards ? In fact, obviously, is to replace the old models are now non- retina screen pro.

*****Tomorrow . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
*****Tomorrow, what say ? ? ? We Replies speak.


10/ 21

*****Today something , please , come back late , ladies waiting. Just watched the reply , the quality of the first to see a netizen too poor , the children , no matter what the dissatisfaction , the plot points discreet , the man speaks to a man as point -like , not cynical.
****Today, nothing really updated, price , this I understand, Apple will announce , but I think should be low , and now with almost PRO price than the high price , with the lowest ratio . 15 discrete graphics models I will not say , leave suspense, but in fact we should be able to guess , and we were IMAC upgrade strategy will understand.
****Well, I say these out
****15 to the point of welfare model is ME2 * 3/ME2 * 4/ME8 * 4 13 is ME8 * 4/8 * 5/8 * 6/8 * 7

10/ 22
*****Today, there is nothing really updated, specific people and other conference right to retain a little bit. Oh .
*****To be honest, nothing else made ​​the paste meant nothing more than for everyone to point the grapevine , we Entertainment Entertainment Bale.
****Nothing is free , today also surprised to find Taobao merchants have put up in October new reservations , as well as model ME293. Powerful ah.
 
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What's wrong with GPU switching? I haven't used a dual-GPU MBP to know how they work.

I had an older unibody MBP with GPU switching.

My friend has a 2012 15" rMBP, and it's damn annoying. Some apps will force the Mac to switch to the dedicated GPU, also when running Youtube (but I guess that's because the HD4000 in the existing ones don't have the power to drive those pixels). Everytime it switches to the dGPU, it gets hot, noisy, and you get inconsistent battery life.

I would just love to have ONE GPU that is always on. No switching. No annoyances.
 
What you call innovation I call updates :p

For the MacPro, clearly more an innovation than an update. Let's wait for a new screen coming along.
Rmbp is clearly not a new design. It's a exactly the same as the mbp, thinner. Same goes for the latest imac.
They've been busy on the iphone, ipad, ipad mini.
 
Yes, the 2.0 GHz has about same performance as the 2.3 Ghz Ivy bridge. This has been stated numerous times in this thread.

We saw a 4950 HQ in the Geekbench results which "only" has a 2.4Ghz but it has about same performance as the current high end Ivy Bridge.

Anyways, I think it's very likely they will release a lower end Iris Pro only option. I'm going to go the dGPU route though. Only question is will it have both the Intel 4600 + 7xxM dGPU or just the 7xxM dGPU?

You literally can't get a laptop processor without at least some intel graphics

I agree though. A low-end 4950 HQ at about $1999 instead of the cMBP, then the 2 others with 750M.
 
I had an older unibody MBP with GPU switching.

My friend has a 2012 15" rMBP, and it's damn annoying. Some apps will force the Mac to switch to the dedicated GPU, also when running Youtube (but I guess that's because the HD4000 in the existing ones don't have the power to drive those pixels). Everytime it switches to the dGPU, it gets hot, noisy, and you get inconsistent battery life.

I would just love to have ONE GPU that is always on. No switching. No annoyances.

I convinced myself i would get the 15" with the dGPU as I understood it was much better, but now u make me doubt again. I had the rmbp 13" and thought the size was perfect, but just wasnt fully satisfied with the graphics.
 
I had an older unibody MBP with GPU switching.

My friend has a 2012 15" rMBP, and it's damn annoying. Some apps will force the Mac to switch to the dedicated GPU, also when running Youtube (but I guess that's because the HD4000 in the existing ones don't have the power to drive those pixels). Everytime it switches to the dGPU, it gets hot, noisy, and you get inconsistent battery life.

I would just love to have ONE GPU that is always on. No switching. No annoyances.

Same thing should happen with non-dedicated graphics anyway. It'll just upclock the GPU to higher clocks when doing intensive stuff to the same effect. Both GPUs will be at similar wattages anyway. dGPU at least has better driver support and CUDA.
 
I convinced myself i would get the 15" with the dGPU as I understood it was much better, but now u make me doubt again. I had the rmbp 13" and thought the size was perfect, but just wasnt fully satisfied with the graphics.

Iris Pro performs a little worse than the 650M in the current rMBP. In some games, they have about the same performance, but the 650M wins in graphic intensive games at high resolution.

However, where the Iris Pro shines, is in OpenCL performance (in e.g. Photoshop), where it outperforms the 650M. I'm not a hardcore gamer, but uses Photoshop and other OpenCL-enabled apps every day, so Iris Pro would be the best choice for me.

AnandTech has made some benchmarks comparing the Iris Pro in the 21.5" iMac with 650M in the rMBP, but keep in mind that the iMac has a 5400RPM hard drive, and rMBP has an SSD. So that may have a little influence on the charts: http://www.anandtech.com/show/7399/...review-iris-pro-driving-an-accurate-display/3
 
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