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That' why I put it in the list ;)
I didn't put Toyota, Honda, Mazda, Suzuki, Mitsubishi because Lexus is the best Japanese car, and I think it is better and lasts more than German cars...

well then that's unfair comparison, you can't compare two cars from different classes even though they are from different countries :confused:

sports car are handmade, while family cars are mass produced...
you don't "handmade" LCDs, but mass produce it .... lol ...

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errr... you can already see the IGZO panels in the kirabook if you so wish or wait a little and see it in the new ultrabooks, the screen quality is on par to what apple uses, above average

those IGZO panels emphasis on power savings and pixel density actually ..

there haven't been any articles about how good the IQ is ..

I'll reserve my comments until someone or some website compares them side by side with the current retina display macbook pro.
 
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there are actually some things that are in the wild right now, the new 9 series chipset has already been leaked, along with haswell e, now to get some of that new gpu arch to draw me in

Broadwell has been shifted to 2015,,so Skylane should be on 2016,
maybe with TB3 (50Gbps^^) ?
 
Is it safe to assume that the rMBP will have the same PCIe flash storage as the 2013 MBA? or even better?

I would say yes, and no, it won't be really faster
1) No point
2) Price of 1gbps+ SSDs skyrockets
Then this is the part where you clarify.

Yes, it will probably have PCIe SSD and no, it won't be really faster sice it would be as useless as current 800mbps which you can't probably even feel, only in benchmarks. Also the price of SSDs above 800mbps skyrockets which would give apple less profit and they won't let that happen.

Is it so hard to understand?
 
those IGZO panels emphasis on power savings and pixel density actually ..

there haven't been any articles about how good the IQ is ..

I'll reserve my comments until someone or some website compares them side by side with the current retina display macbook pro.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6409/13inch-retina-macbook-pro-review/4
there have been a lot of articles, you just havent read them

its pretty on par, I disagree with the delta e results, since the rmbp suffers from color fluxuation
Yes, it will probably have PCIe SSD and no, it won't be really faster sice it would be as useless as current 800mbps which you can't probably even feel, only in benchmarks. Also the price of SSDs above 800mbps skyrockets which would give apple less profit and they won't let that happen.

Is it so hard to understand?
no not really

current pcie SSDs (they really use the pcie slot) need 2 controllers and are generally used with the poor SF2281 controller.
The enterprise class usually are much better in terms of everything, they can withstand the load with tremendous amonts of read and write, they are more consistent, and they have very high 4k writes


Aside that current sata express have a new controller, so that it can use everything that the new interface has to offer, unless you count the poor offer from sandisk that uses again the terrible SF2281

Is that so hard to understand?
 
The price for MBA it is the same with PCIe so this is not a factor for price up the retina MBP. So for the same price we will get PCIe
 
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6409/13inch-retina-macbook-pro-review/4
there have been a lot of articles, you just havent read them

its pretty on par, I disagree with the delta e results, since the rmbp suffers from color fluxuation

Um ... i don't see the article mentioning about IGZO ... anywhere ?

besides IGZO panels have just begin production this year ... am i missing something ?

i've seen and heard a lot of reviews from websites and my web designer peers ... i find many praise the retina's color reproduction ...

if retina colors are worse than cMBPs, many professionals would have traded their machines back to cMBP.

these numbers do tell us something but i felt the comparison table cater more towards people who are more concerned about those numbers rather than the quality of the screen itself.

some say how good the Samsung Super AMOLED screen is, deeper blacks, whiter whites...bluer blues...the results exceed all those color test...
i found the oversaturated display is as good as turd.

any designer who are sane enough would have chose the iphone display over samsung even though its "just an IPS"

so i guess ... can we just wait till anybody post comparison photos? like... REAL side by side photos...not just numbers?
 
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Yes, it will probably have PCIe SSD and no, it won't be really faster sice it would be as useless as current 800mbps which you can't probably even feel, only in benchmarks. Also the price of SSDs above 800mbps skyrockets which would give apple less profit and they won't let that happen.

Is it so hard to understand?

:rolleyes:

Give it up...you have been beating this dead horse for pages now. PCIe SSDs are and do feel faster. The prices will come down...but for many price isn't that much of a problem.

Personally, the PCIe SSD will help a great deal with the work I will do.
 
13" rMBP should sport 16GB RAM option

8GB Ram doesn't cut it for a pro machine imo that's so old. Would be cool if they differentiated more from the air. It should have an option to configure 16GB of RAM or even a funny number like 12GB. Haswell alone doesn't warrant picking this model up. Developers could use a beefed up machine with a small physical footprint.
 
Do you think that the only thing they will update in the new rMBPs is the Haswell? Or do you think that they will throw in some other upgrades such as more flash storage by default or more ram? Also, what do you think about prices? Will they drop them down a bit? I know it is all speculation, but I would like to know what you guys/gals think.
 
Do you think that the only thing they will update in the new rMBPs is the Haswell? Or do you think that they will throw in some other upgrades such as more flash storage by default or more ram? Also, what do you think about prices? Will they drop them down a bit? I know it is all speculation, but I would like to know what you guys/gals think.

Pretty sure wireless ac, pci-e ssd and haswell will deffo be in it but know one really knows if anything else will be upgraded

I am hoping 16gb will be standard 8gb is pretty standard theses days a pro manchine should have more and a slight price drop would be awesome
 
cMBP destiny is under big question if you ask me. I am very curious to see final Apple decision this fall.

Apple can:
1. Refresh cMBP and offer it with $100 drop compared to current cMBP;
2. Leave it like it is, but with massive price drop (like they did with old iPhone`s);
3. Shut down cMBP completely and on that place put current Retina MBP with massive price drop. If this happens, I assume new rMBP will be real beast in terms of performance!

Without cMBP they will leave one hole that was filled with cMBP. A lot of people bought cMBP because of price (and DIY upgrade). What is more important, those buyers will pick Mac again when time comes for new laptop.
 
8GB Ram doesn't cut it for a pro machine imo that's so old. Would be cool if they differentiated more from the air. It should have an option to configure 16GB of RAM or even a funny number like 12GB. Haswell alone doesn't warrant picking this model up. Developers could use a beefed up machine with a small physical footprint.

I could not agree more. I thought it was embarrassing that Apple's 'PRO' line of notebooks started with 4 Gb of memory when almost everyone else in the industry had moved to 8 GB.

If you use just two or three VMs and some high-end apps, 16GB goes pretty quick. I would like to see 24 or 32 GB of memory as a BTO option. Many other Pro notebooks offer that much since they have 4 memory slots.

I'm sure I'm in a minority though...

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next retina at least 15" model will have: wifi ac, PCIe stadard, geforce 760M,and up to 12h battery
 
I could not agree more. I thought it was embarrassing that Apple's 'PRO' line of notebooks started with 4 Gb of memory when almost everyone else in the industry had moved to 8 GB.

If you use just two or three VMs and some high-end apps, 16GB goes pretty quick. I would like to see 24 or 32 GB of memory as a BTO option. Many other Pro notebooks offer that much since they have 4 memory slots.

I'm sure I'm in a minority though...

-P

If there's a mbpr 32gb option I'm getting it. No matter the cost.
 
cMBP destiny is under big question if you ask me. I am very curious to see final Apple decision this fall.

Apple can:
1. Refresh cMBP and offer it with $100 drop compared to current cMBP;
2. Leave it like it is, but with massive price drop (like they did with old iPhone`s);
3. Shut down cMBP completely and on that place put current Retina MBP with massive price drop. If this happens, I assume new rMBP will be real beast in terms of performance!

Without cMBP they will leave one hole that was filled with cMBP. A lot of people bought cMBP because of price (and DIY upgrade). What is more important, those buyers will pick Mac again when time comes for new laptop.

Apple decision will mainly depend upon whether people voted cMBP with their money or not... If the number of cMBP voters is considerable, then it will get updated and will live a bit more... All is about $$$ cling! cling! cling! :D

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If there's a mbpr 32gb option I'm getting it. No matter the cost.

This is why Apple is the most profitable company in US... :rolleyes:
 
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