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I really didn't want to come on here and say I told you so, but there have been certain posters on here (cough*Mcarling*cough) bandying about such silly nonsense like it was fact -- a late September silent refresh was imminent and that there was more chance of the rMBP being updated NEXT YEAR than at this event.

There's always a reason for such statements and they usually involve what said posters want and desire, nothing more.

Oh and I'm getting the 15 mid level.

Edit: Oh, there's no mid level! Stupid me.
 
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Benzy said:
you guys think 4GB would cut it? or should I bump it up to 8GB to future proof
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Go with 8GB. No doubt about it.

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smoking monkey said:
I really didn't want to come on here and say I told you so, but there have been certain posters on here (cough*Mcarling*cough) bandying about such silly nonsense like it was fact -- a late September silent refresh was imminent and that there was more chance of the rMBP being updated NEXT YEAR than at this event.

There's always a reason for such statements and they usually involve what said posters want and desire, nothing more.

Oh and I'm getting the 15 mid level.
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Truer words have never been spoken.
 
smoking monkey said:
I really didn't want to come on here and say I told you so, but there have been certain posters on here (cough*Mcarling*cough) bandying about such silly nonsense like it was fact -- a late September silent refresh was imminent and that there was more chance of the rMBP being updated NEXT YEAR than at this event.

There's always a reason for such statements and they usually involve what said posters want and desire, nothing more.

Oh and I'm getting the 15 mid level.
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what do you mean by mid level?
 
VanillaCracker said:
GHz doesn't necessarily mean pure performance. Higher clocks are better generally speaking, but Haswell pushes more performance per clock. The base model (regardless of how many GHz) of the Haswell model will probably perform roughly 15% faster than the base model of the outgoing Ivy Bridge model.

Not really, Iris Pro will not outperform the 650M in 3D intensive applications, or games.

It will however, outperform the Intel HD 4000 which came with the 650M in last years model.
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Ahh soo watching HD video won't lag or anything?
 
What do you guys think about 8 vs 16 GB for the 13 inch rMPB? It would be mainly used for lighter tasks (software development, 10-20 tabs in chrome, spotify, skype etc) but I use Photoshop fairly often on an external monitor + occasionally gaming and video editing too.
It will be my main computer for atleast 3 years and I'd like it to be very futureproof. Is 16GB worth it?
 
gothamm said:
what do you mean by mid level?
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good question... I thought there were three 15s! There are only two it seems. After just pricing them now, I can get the machine with 512memory, 16gb ram and the 750 for the same price as the 15 with no 750 but everything else specced the same... how does that work!?!?

I don't really need the 750 but if it costs me nothing to get it.
 
Krooser said:
What do you guys think about 8 vs 16 GB for the 13 inch rMPB? It would be mainly used for lighter tasks (software development, 10-20 tabs in chrome, spotify, skype etc) but I use Photoshop fairly often on an external monitor + occasionally gaming and video editing too.
It will be my main computer for atleast 3 years and I'd like it to be very futureproof. Is 16GB worth it?
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Imo 8GB. But everyone else will probably say 16GB because they don't trust their conservatism.

Also, not necessarily for you, but keep in mind that Mavericks essentially makes your Inactive RAM 33% higher, regardless of your amount of physical RAM.
 
smoking monkey said:
good question... I thought there were three 15s! There are only two it seems. After just pricing them now, I can get the machine with 512memory, 16gb ram and the 750 for the same price as the 15 with no 750 but everything else specced the same... how does that work!?!?

I don't really need the 750 but if it costs me nothing to get it.
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I saw that too, I lawl'd. If you want 512GB storage, and 16GB you pretty much should be ordering the High end model. It's only $100 less to get the Iris Pro only, and for that you get the base CPU instead of the 2.3GHz
 
smoking monkey said:
good question... I thought there were three 15s! There are only two it seems. After just pricing them now, I can get the machine with 512memory, 16gb ram and the 750 for the same price as the 15 with no 750 but everything else specced the same... how does that work!?!?

I don't really need the 750 but if it costs me nothing to get it.
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I'm wondering the same thing. For somebody who doesn't need the 750, is it better not to have it at all? I'm thinking in terms of battery life and the fans spinning up when something triggers the dGPU. That you save nothing without the 750 makes this a more difficult decision..
 
Harrycooke said:
Thank god. I only ask because my current laptop can't even cope with a 3 minute long 720p music video, so I get quite paranoid.
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Yeah you've definitely got old tech man. My current computer (2010 model) has like the original "Intel HD Graphics" (<-- that's the full name) and it runs 1080p videos fine and I can play League of Legends with 60fps medium graphics hah. Iris Pro is almost dedicated graphics level so you'll be fine for normal usage definitely.

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ohbrilliance said:
I'm wondering the same thing. For somebody who doesn't need the 750, is it better not to have it at all? I'm thinking in terms of battery life and the fans spinning up when something triggers the dGPU. That you save nothing without the 750 makes this a more difficult decision..
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IMHO I think for those who literally will not see the use of the 750M it is still worth not having. If the two were literally on par 98-99% I would choose to not have a dGPU. Even though graphics switching is said to be much improved in Mavericks, it is still a problem for some. Therefore I would suggest going without it, if you really won't need/want the slight difference in performance between the Iris Pro and 750M.
 
Edited to continue on the line of questions re dGPU...


I want to use the machine for 4 years. Will having the dGPU help with future iterations of OSX?
What other situations would the dGPU be beneficial in the long run?

For what tasks will the dGPU turn on?



thanks
 
Figured it out. The 2.0 ghz base 15" model has the core i7 4750HQ.


the 2.3 ghz is a i7 4850HQ

the 2.6 ghz is a i7 4960HQ
 
smoking monkey said:
Arrrgh, what to do.

1. I don't play games.
2. I don't do much video editing anymore.
3. I don't do Photoshop to any intense level anymore.
4. I don't do music mixing etc.

But I want to use the machine for 4 years. Will having the dGPU help with future iterations of OSX?

What other situations would the dGPU be beneficial in the long run?


Considering the costs of the machine are identical if you spec them the same, it's not a case of money. But I'd like the machine to run as cool and quiet as possible.

Does the dGPU only turn on when it's needed?


thanks and sorry for the ignorant questions.
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The dGPU only turns on when it is triggered by an application that makes certain graphics calls. If you have no plans to play games or use professional apps that specifically use the dGPU, I think you will actually have a net better experience without it.

The dGPU automatically switching on and off can cause erratic battery life if you don't realize that a particular app is causing it to kick in.

A machine with Iris Pro should have more consistent battery life because there's no switching going on.

Apple shipped machines with HD 3000 and HD 4000 graphics and will be supporting those for years to come with OSX updates. Iris and Iris Pro huge leaps above those so you shouldn't have to worry about that.
 
Stetrain said:
The dGPU only turns on when it is triggered by an application that makes certain graphics calls. If you have no plans to play games or use professional apps that specifically use the dGPU, I think you will actually have a net better experience without it.

The dGPU automatically switching on and off can cause erratic battery life if you don't realize that a particular app is causing it to kick in.

A machine with Iris Pro should have more consistent battery life because there's no switching going on.

Apple shipped machines with HD 3000 and HD 4000 graphics and will be supporting those for years to come with OSX updates. Iris and Iris Pro huge leaps above those so you shouldn't have to worry about that.
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Beat me to it. Nice summary
 
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