I am already playing with Mavericks DP2, and I can tell you it does little to none compression. Don't expect miracles with this old feature, it will not double you RAM...
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I am already playing with Mavericks DP2, and I can tell you it does little to none compression. Don't expect miracles with this old feature, it will not double you RAM...
The activity monitor app allows you to monitor the compressed RAM. All you have to do is to run applications, and when the upper bound limit of your RAM is almost reached, it starts triggering RAM compression. Be aware, Mavericks will still use disk swapping when it can't free memory through compression.
I am not sure if there is an API and how complicated it would be to hook your application to instrument memory compression. I'll have a look at it though...
well, i don't see why devs should deal with the memory management (other than making sure your app is efficient and no memory leaks ).
compression should be the job of the OS itself just like how TRIM does garbage collection behind the scenes.
it could be the memory compression is still in its early stages, we'll see later when the GM is released.
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no idea, can you get the current retina with 2000 euros? if yes then its also yes for the next generation.
You are right, the waiting totally makes no sense.
Because the most important period of college study is the first two months.
Even though you could have a better rmbp in October, and for next 4 years, but that's not important, the key is to own it for the first two months.
Yeah, I didn't really think it would
But I could see Apple using memory compression as a rationalization after the fact if the 13" rMBP does not have a BTO option for 16GB of RAM. I'm really hoping Apple offers it with the possibility of 16GB of memory. That would be a great machine.
Yeah, I didn't really think it would
And don't forget a Quad core option to go with that. I'd buy that even if it cost just a bit less than the 15" rMBP.
Not likely to happen tho.
What do you mean by dev, OS X engineering team or an application developer?
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The compression algorithms exist since decades... It is a very mature field...
What do you mean by dev, OS X engineering team or an application developer?
We agree
The compression algorithms exist since decades... It is a very mature field...
devs as in application developer.
so u know what kind of algo they're using? hmm...perhaps some other optimizations?
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I actually have a feeling we're going to see a slight price increase in the next generation.
You are looking at the wrong direction. Turn around and you can see the price is going down with $100
mac prices going down every year ... due to inflation and stuff ...
people used to shell more than $4k for a mac desktop.
There are several compression algorithms: Huffman, LempelZivWelch (LZW), ARC,...etc, but the most used is ZIP, which I believe is the one used by Apple.
Sure, try with fractal compression, you'll end up freeing memory few minutes or hours later...
Do you know any better algorithm that has a good compression ratio, is fast enough, and is not based on ZIP?
Inflation causes prices to go up, or "become inflated".
That being said, I'm all for lower mac prices and I don't disagree that that is the trend.
I can confirm this.
Any "compression" Mavericks does is only there for certain things from how I look at it. Applications like Photoshop and Illustrator, which are heavy-hitters when it comes to RAM, still hog RAM like crazy.
So 16GB is still very necessary. Also because Retina graphics assets take up 4x the memory space, so Retina-optimized apps do take up more memory than on a non-Retina machine.
As for why Apple does not allow 16GB upgrade for 13" rMBP, that's... probably one of the weirdest decisions I have seen yet.
Inflation makes prices go up. Prices go down due to technology maturing and becoming more readily available as it becomes easier to manufacture and yields go up, R&D costs being amortized over the number of units that will be sold and that number having reached a tipping point, and of course, competition. And stuff.
Apple has their earnings conference on the 23rd, they won't release a new product before then. But I doubt it's going to become available the last week of July. September is more likely.
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