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Waiting for Skylake MBP thread

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Baldrake said:
I'm actually a bit puzzled here. The US dollar is up against a lot of currencies lately, so for those of us outside the US, there's a double hit of prices up, plus exchange rate.

BUT... pretty much everything inside the MBP is made outside the US. So why are the prices up so much in USD? Surely this was an opportunity for them to at minimum hold steady and soften the blow on the rest of us.
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Yep, this is their answer to dwindling sales, ratchet up the prices and make up the falling unit sales with higher Asps.

Just wonder how much of a backlash there is going to be over the pricing, i've just had a look over at Reddit after reading those references on that Cult of Mac article it hasnt gone down well at all.
 
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My current machine is the original 2012 rMBP. It came with 16gb of RAM. Couple of years ago I said I wouldn't buy another MBP until Apple could build one with 32gb. Hard to believe 4 years later, that's still not an option. I may have to get an Ubuntu laptop or something.
 
shareef777 said:
The last gen 15" with 512GB/2.5GHz i5 w dGPU started at $2500. Same model is now $2600.
The last gen 13" with 256GB/2.9GHz i5 is $1600. Same model is now $1800.

Price increase isn't as extreme as they made it seem. The Surface line by MS though. That's a dagger.
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Believe it or not there is a world outside the US.
 
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Uni Grad said:
I just wanna say that this thread epitomizes first world problems perfectly. :p

The longing, the suffering, the anguish all for an overpriced product.
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Yes indeed. I was a bit upset about not having the latest skylake, but I'm starting to come around (especially when I realized I spent $200 less then when I bought my current 2012).
 
A lot are asking if folks have been outpriced and I'm certainly one of them. I don't mind paying a 40% premium versus my PC counterparts but this is asinine. I am building a custom PC now for a fraction the cost. I'll hate Windows of course but I'll be able to drive my applications with ease, game, and upgrade whenever I'm bored. I still use iPad, iPhone, Apple TV etc.

Apple failed big here, and for me, entirely on costing structure.
 
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samcow said:
Yea I can't disagree, I waffle back and forth as it sounds like i bought the same model as you. I just wanted to lock in my order, perhaps I'll cancel, perhaps I'll receive it and cancel within 2 weeks, who knows. I don't particularly see a Windows 10 laptop that excites me in any way however, except the Surface Book - however it appears to be even more expensive ha
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yeah I don't see another option right now except to wait x long for a substantial price drop. and going by how long this thread has been going, I'm not sure if I'm up for it.

by the way I got 13in 256gb ssd 16gb ram space grey. +touchbar
 
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al_bundy said:
A lot are asking if folks have been outpriced and I'm certainly one of them. I don't mind paying a 40% premium versus my PC counterparts but this is asinine. I am building a custom PC now for a fraction the cost. I'll hate Windows of course but I'll be able to drive my applications with ease, game, and upgrade whenever I'm bored. I still use iPad, iPhone, Apple TV etc.

Apple failed big here, and for me, entirely on costing structure.
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You're not the first, nor the last. Honestly, I was hoping that there would be a mass exodus to get them back on track, but seeing Microsoft's surface pricing, there's no way that's going to happen. Competition is getting up there in price as well.
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Mkondrak said:
yeah I don't see another option right now except to wait x long for a substantial price drop. and going by how long this thread has been going, I'm not sure if I'm up for it.

by the way I got 13in 256gb ssd 16gb ram space grey.
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Touch or no touch? Kills me that they call the non-touch a Pro. Will cause confusion for the 13" line. Just call it a MB (and rename the 12" to MB seeing as all their products are retina now).
 
shareef777 said:
You can thank your fellow brit for that(brexit). Sure Apple's an opportunist, but the value of the pound is being decimated and every company will take advantage of that.
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Its nothing to do with price adjustment for currency fluctuations its about them trotting out some notebooks with chips that about a year old, a middling (at best) GPU, some new i/o, and a touch bar nobody wanted and sticking the prices up.

2015 13 inch Macbook Pro 8gb RAM 256 SSD £1286. (2.7 ghz i5)

2016 Macbook Pro 13 inch - closest spec to the above - £1574.

Those prices are after the adjustment for the weakness of the pound. The near £300 price increase isn't really justified .

Get into BTO upgrades and the pricing gets even more outrageous.
 
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Touch or no touch? Kills me that they call the non-touch a Pro. Will cause confusion for the 13" line. Just call it a MB (and rename the 12" to MB seeing as all their products are retina now).
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oh yeah I forgot. obviously with the touch bar for me.
 
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shareef777 said:
The last gen 15" with 512GB/2.5GHz i5 w dGPU started at $2500. Same model is now $2600.
The last gen 13" with 256GB/2.9GHz i5 is $1600. Same model is now $1800.

Price increase isn't as extreme as they made it seem. The Surface line by MS though. That's a dagger.
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well the price increase in absolute numbers is only 200 dollar or so. However we would have expected that we get much more due to technology getting cheaper. However that is not the case. SSD upgrades are almost same price as two years ago. The MBP's have still 8 or 16 GB Ram. Yes, the prices are similar to last year but i would have expected more Ram, larger SSD, or lower starting price.
 
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I'm mostly interested in the battery life of these MBPs. They say 10 hours, but I have a feeling they'll have a worse battery life compared to the 2015 version. Just like how they lied about the battery life of ipad air 2...they say it's the same battery life as the ipad air 1, but anyone who used both can easily tell the original air have a much better battery life.

Guess I'm just bitter they have to make it so thin, in a pro machine? Sigh. Imagine the same thickness as the 2015 version. How insane the battery life's would've been.
 
andiwm2003 said:
well the price increase in absolute numbers is only 200 dollar or so. However we would have expected that we get much more due to technology getting cheaper. However that is not the case. SSD upgrades are almost same price as two years ago. The MBP's have still 8 or 16 GB Ram. Yes, the prices are similar to last year but i would have expected more Ram, larger SSD, or lower starting price.
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It's a spec bump in a new body. We're getting newer procs (I'm going to go ahead and say it's Intel's fault on why the skylakes with 580s weren't put in as every other manufacturer has not done so either). Newer dGPU, admittedly not the best one on the market, but then again Apple has NEVER put the best dGPU in their laptops. Faster memory (would of been nice to have more, but then that'd of been a significant bump over the $200 we got), significantly faster SSDs (hoping it's NVMe based), and the TouchBar/TouchID. It's an incremental bump. I'm pretty much spending LESS then what I did 4 years ago for a maxed out unit.

Instead of the 2TB option I wish they'd of offered a 32GB option as you can always go with 1TB and offload storage to a cloud provider, where's a few years from now when 16GB doesn't cut it, there's nothing we can do except upgrade (which is what I'm guessing they're hoping for).
 
Phil said it best, the mbp is the gold standard of laptops. It's been true for the last 7-8 years, and it's true now.

I have no doubt that the new MBP is a thing of beauty, and it's obviously not for "college students."

People are getting mad about not being able to afford the best. There are other options, even from Apple.
 
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