No problem - revive the 'prior' rMBP, swap screen and update the logic board. Call it a 'Pro+'. Done.
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Waiting for the 2017 MBP (Kaby Lake / Cannonlake / Coffee Lake??)
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2) Seems that all rumours and specs sayd we will not have 32 gb ram until 2018 (kaby lake doesnt support it)
3) Are we sure Apple will make an redesign something again big for the mac? since they focus more and more on iphone?
I think the best moment is now to buy a new macbook pro , is new fresh more powerful , more portable. If you dont need the power of the usb-c/tb3 then i think you are better with last gen Macbook pro
3) Are we sure Apple will make an redesign something again big for the mac? since they focus more and more on iphone?
I think the best moment is now to buy a new macbook pro , is new fresh more powerful , more portable. If you dont need the power of the usb-c/tb3 then i think you are better with last gen Macbook pro
I'm not sure if this was already discussed, and I honestly don't want to read 1400 pages of...
oh sorry I was still thinking about Waiting for Skylake.
Anyway.
What are the improvements are we expecting in the Kaby Lake MBP?
Is there really something valuable?
Other than price lowered?
I think I'll go soon with a 2016 MBP, but I'll join this thread anyway just for fun.
oh sorry I was still thinking about Waiting for Skylake.
Anyway.
What are the improvements are we expecting in the Kaby Lake MBP?
Is there really something valuable?
Other than price lowered?
I think I'll go soon with a 2016 MBP, but I'll join this thread anyway just for fun.
Lol no, just because he didn't activate hardware encoding on one platform it sucks? Because he deliberately selected the CPU encoder? Come back to reality.
Updated image, wrong link.
http://core0.staticworld.net/images...brake_vs_skylake_broadwell-100685727-orig.png
That's the H.264 from the iGPU, that the MacBook Pro has, it's just that handbrake doesn't use/enable that on the Mac version... if handbrake.fr enabled this on the Mac in macOS, then it would be the same (give or take), otherwise you can just boot into Windows if you want to... and do like 5 encodes real quick and boot back into macOS...
in other news:http://bgr.com/2016/10/31/macbook-pro-2016-ram-ssd-upgrades/
This may have been discussed earlier, but does anybody know why the new "basic MBP" without Touchbar doesn't have a Kaby Lake processor although it only runs on a 15W CPU? Haven't 7h generation U Series CPUs been available for a while now, with Dell and others already shipping Laptops using them?
Apple doesn't want their lowest end MacBook Pro to outshine its more expensive counterparts. I think it's as simple as that.
Also the 15w kaby lake GPU thats out doesnt have GT3e graphics
There are two different 15W chips that Intel calls "U series": One with GT2 graphics, and one with GT3e graphics. Only the former has been released in Kaby Lake.
The 15W GT2 chip almost certainly uses the same die as the 4.5W "Y series" (aka core-m) chip. At the moment, the only Mac that could be released with Kaby Lake is the 12" rMB.
I'm not sure if this was already discussed, and I honestly don't want to read 1400 pages of...
oh sorry I was still thinking about Waiting for Skylake.
Anyway.
What are the improvements are we expecting in the Kaby Lake MBP?
Is there really something valuable?
Other than price lowered?
I think I'll go soon with a 2016 MBP, but I'll join this thread anyway just for fun.
You've been around that thread long enough to know
+2-5% CPU perf.
+some unknown% GPU perf.
Native USB 3.1
Native h.265 Decoding
hopes and dreams.
LPDDR4 support
Courage
etc, etc. yada, yada.
Unfortunately, Kaby Lake 28 and 45 watt CPUs do not support LPDDR4 RAM.You've been around that thread long enough to know
+2-5% CPU perf.
+some unknown% GPU perf.
Native USB 3.1
Native h.265 Decoding
hopes and dreams.
LPDDR4 support
Courage
etc, etc. yada, yada.
You've been around that thread long enough to know
+2-5% CPU perf.
+some unknown% GPU perf.
Native USB 3.1
Native h.265 Decoding
hopes and dreams.
LPDDR4 support
Courage
etc, etc. yada, yada.
I was hoping in some kind of miraculous change.
More seriously (or not) I remember that when we were discussing Kaby Lake improvements, came out that they were actually pretty... meh.
Skylake was predicted to be a more interesting update.
Considering that Apple can't already change design, I believe we won't see any KL MBP, instead Apple will skip it, or extend again the release time.
I mean, what's the point of promoting the KL MBP with "now with 2% more CPU power!" "10,5 hours of battery life instead of 10!" "3% more GPU power!" "Courage!" ?
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And native tb3 is useless for macbook pros since we have them already. I think kaby will be a much better upgrade for 12" macbook
At the time of this post, the majority of votes (198) went to: "No, They increased the cost far to much. The Apple i once new loved appears to have disappeared." This on a website full of Mac enthusiasts. I wonder if this is a wake up call for Apple.
its ok, they will change their mind soon...i remember the hate for the new 2012 MBP, no optical drive, no ethernet port, no longer a posibility to change the ssd,ram etc too expensive etc etc and after a while it was the most loved laptop by users and reviewers
Which version are you thinking of getting? My refurb 2015 13" just came and I'm starting to think that I'll keep it. The first things I had to do to setup the new Mac were transfer files via Time Machine and install software via external USB Optical Drive. It was nice to do those things without a dongle. I'm also cherishing the little things a bit more this time around...magsafe, power extension cord, lit up Apple, the chime...things I wouldn't have even paid attention to before. I haven't had time to do anything too strenuous with it yet, but the short time I spent in Photoshop, Excel and iMovie makes me think that it'll be enough for me for at least 2 or 3 years. And going from a 2010 MBA to a Retina display is absolutely thrilling...I could spend all day just looking at the screen.
Over the weekend I tried the 2016 at the Apple store and the keyboard was surprisingly better than I expected, but I still prefer the 2015 keyboard. I was also surprised that there was only one 2016 MBP being displayed and that there was absolutely no one else around looking at it. I spent a good 20 minutes playing around with it and no one else even came near me in that time. There were also three or four older models (2012 to 2015) on display and there were more people looking at those than the 2016. Most people, however, were playing with iPads and iPhones. On the other hand, when I dropped into the Microsoft store, everyone was playing with the laptops/Surfaces/desktops while no one was looking at the phones. Just an interesting observation.
Anyways, after much anguish I'll probably be leaving the "Waiting for ____" crowd and settling down with my new/refurbed MBP. I'll still be watching this thread for fun though; it's become a part of my daily routine to check in on the "Waiting For" threads.
Which version are you thinking of getting? [...]
I'll still be watching this thread for fun though; it's become a part of my daily routine to check in on the "Waiting For" threads.
Base CPU 15" with Radeon 460 and 512 GB SSD.
I still want to wait for some reviews (and meanwhile save money to buy it
), but I don't know if I'm ready to change OS after six years of habit. Also, my 2009 core2duo can't last anymore. I can wait a couple more months, but not 2H 2017 for slight improvements.
In addition, having to migrate six years of apps, files, saving, password and crap is seeeeriously scaring me.
I have to prepare myself for it.
But of course I'll still check this thread.
It's too funny.
So I have retina 13" MacBook Pro from 2013 with a 1TB SSD and 16 GB RAM. So far there is nothing that would trigger an upgrade for me. The only thing that I can see is a quad core CPU in a 13" laptop
A quick question about the i5 28w vs the i5 15w.
The i5 28w is clocked at 2.9ghz, while the i5 15w is clocked at 2.0ghz.
When the full 2.9ghz is not required by the 28w, will it still be running at that speed? Or does it have the capability to be at a much lower speed. If the former, it makes me worry that the laptop will be always running warmer/louder and take up more battery power even when I don't need the performance.
The i5 28w is clocked at 2.9ghz, while the i5 15w is clocked at 2.0ghz.
When the full 2.9ghz is not required by the 28w, will it still be running at that speed? Or does it have the capability to be at a much lower speed. If the former, it makes me worry that the laptop will be always running warmer/louder and take up more battery power even when I don't need the performance.
2.0ghz is just the base clock rate, the 15W CPU will turbo boost to 3.1ghz a lot when the temperatures allow for it to do so. AFAIK, a higher clock rate will also finish the task faster so the CPU can go to idle state faster so always running at 2.9ghz is not as bad as it may sound.
For light use, the 28W CPU should be able to idle more than the 15W and may even run cooler than the 15W. I would be worried more about the 15W model as it only has an old single fan design while the 28W has the new dual fan design that could allow it to run cooler and quieter.
I was thinking more on the side of, will the CPU be able to down-clock, lower than its stock clock, if the power isn't required - or is the stock clock the minimum it will always run. My desktop i7 920 had a base clock of 2.6ghz but would dynamically underlock to like 900-1000 mhz when the power wasn't required (Intel Speed step technology is it?).
A lot of the time, be it light browsing or just coding, I won't even need 1ghz of processing power (comparing to say an m3 rMB). But during these times, if it will still clock at 2.9ghz, I can see it being less of an optimal purchase as, it will only be really heavy compiling etc, which will happen infrequently, that would utilise the higher boost. And even then, I won't need pro-longed loads (just bursts) in which case the performance difference will be negligable, so is that processor altogether wasted?
Edit: http://ark.intel.com/products/91166/Intel-Core-i5-6267U-Processor-4M-Cache-up-to-3_30-GHz
Seems as though it does have Intel Speed Step technology, so it should be able to down-clock from base (unless Apple disables this by default?).
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I was about to upgrade to a new fully loaded 15” Macbook Pro….but decided to wait till they give us a 32GIG RAM option in the future (I do Logic Pro X with lots of Vis and plug-ins). I currently have a 15” Macbook Pro (Late 2013) with:
- 2.6 GHz i7
- 16GB (1600 MHz DDR3 Ram)
- NVIDA GeForce GT 750M 2048MB
- 1TB SSD (the one Apple put in…)
I wanted to upgrade to at least an internal 2TB SDD...but is there one...What would be the best/fastest/largest internal SSD that would be compatible with my MBP model?
Thanks so much
Mike
I was about to upgrade to a new fully loaded 15” Macbook Pro….but decided to wait till they give us a 32GIG RAM option in the future (I do Logic Pro X with lots of Vis and plug-ins). I currently have a 15” Macbook Pro (Late 2013) with:
- 2.6 GHz i7
- 16GB (1600 MHz DDR3 Ram)
- NVIDA GeForce GT 750M 2048MB
- 1TB SSD (the one Apple put in…)
I wanted to upgrade to at least an internal 2TB SDD...but is there one...What would be the best/fastest/largest internal SSD that would be compatible with my MBP model?
Thanks so much
Mike
Ya it will downclock when the speed isn't needed.
After poking around upgrades on OWC for the 15", I think the max you can have internally on your system is 1TB unfortunately.
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I had the occasion to try the new 13" MBP at a local store.
Boys, it's awesome.
The keyboard is almost the same as the MacBook, but to me doesn't feel weird anymore.
I'm starting to get used to it. Really.
It's super light.
The display is gorgeous.
Speaker are really really good for its size.
I seriously can't wait to see how is the 15".
Boys, it's awesome.
The keyboard is almost the same as the MacBook, but to me doesn't feel weird anymore.
I'm starting to get used to it. Really.
It's super light.
The display is gorgeous.
Speaker are really really good for its size.
I seriously can't wait to see how is the 15".
I am in the part of changing my career completely and I will need a new setup of computers.
Base 13'' MBP is absolutely perfect for what I will do(setting up home automation systems, PV installations, etc).
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