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Waiting for the 2017 MBP (Kaby Lake / Cannonlake / Coffee Lake??)
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If you don't need a laptop, certainly building a PC will save you a lot of money.
It disappoints me. It's just too expensive for what it is, the price to performance value just isn't there. There's nothing about the machine that excites me, and I've been waiting for the past year to upgrade. If my order price ended up being $2500, I probably would have gone through with it. I'd be fine with the weight and design of my current 2010 MBP if it was just more powerful. I'm sure the touch bar will be nice but that's not a selling point to me. I'm a big fan of macOS but $3000 is a bitter pill to swallow in order to continue using it, especially when I'm not seeing strong value there. I'll get by with my old MBP for portability and have a desktop as a powerful work horse, but I will miss macOS being my main OS. In a future iteration, I would like to get a new MBP again.
Not the point - if I epoxyed a USB-C to USB 3 adapter on, which is the sort of practical step I would take, then Apple would probably gripe I had voided AppleCare. Dremeling an SD reader in probably not likely to end well! I cannot be doing with a bag of bits just to get functionality that should be there at the off. I would not care if the adapters came free in the box - their function should be in the bl**dy machine. What use an aesthetically pleasing paperweight that needs to look like an octopus to do anything remotely (emphasis on remote) useful? I am happy to pay "Apple Tax" if Apple can be a**sed to deliver a machine worth buying. At the moment the new 2016 Pro is not a Pro laptop. I am hoping Apple sees sense and fixes this by 2018.
You're right, GTX 10xx are not yet supported, but I have a GTX 950 that I'm going to use until the new ones get supported.
I definitely feel like they're asking a lot on top of the laptop price with the price of adapters. If they actually included all of the common port adapters, then that'd be better and a different story. But expensive laptop + expensive adapters? You're too greedy Apple. All that money and they can't eat the cost of adapters that probably cost them very little to make to keep people happy with their product directions.
Not picking nits here, as a voter for the second option. The poll option I voted for is that I'll wait, for the 2016 version. The thread title addresses the unknown 2017 version, with Kaby Lake on board. IMHO the poll option I would have voted for is "Yes, I'll wait for the 2017 version of the 2016 model" - IMHO the poll creator borked the options in the poll for the market; the second option isn't a "No" but, rather, a "Yes, but not at this point in time."
So IMHO the poll is still "running" about 40/20/40 percent, with a poorly-worded second option in the poll.
I am perfectly happy with my 2015 rMBP. It has plenty of power, fast SSD, AND lots of ports + Magsafe! Mine only has Intel Iris 6100 graphics as I am not a big gamer at all, however, I did install Civilizations VI and I can run that at High Graphics with zero problems. I was surprised that the Intel Graphics could handle that, it also can run Call Of Duty 4 on a custom set of graphics settings that make it look pretty good. Anyway, sorry to get off point there - basically I would have bought a new 2016 MBP if it was any good but damn, it is just too damn expensive for not enough "Pro" power, in my humble opinion. The Touchbar does nothing for me, so hey, I have a great rMBP and it does everything I need it to do!
Hopefully 2017 brings "Back the Mac!" Not just MacBook Pros, but iMacs, Mac Pro's, and Mac Mini's. Anyway, good luck to everyone else!
Hopefully 2017 brings "Back the Mac!" Not just MacBook Pros, but iMacs, Mac Pro's, and Mac Mini's. Anyway, good luck to everyone else!
Yeah, my Iris 6100 in both my Air11 and rMBP15 is pretty sweet too, but the 2016 is just way too out in the future for me... I would have to adjust my lifestyle to be happy buying one. I kinda have external drives laying around USB flash drives in use etc, I like to use old OSes etc...I am perfectly happy with my 2015 rMBP. It has plenty of power, fast SSD, AND lots of ports + Magsafe! Mine only has Intel Iris 6100 graphics as I am not a big gamer at all, however, I did install Civilizations VI and I can run that at High Graphics with zero problems. I was surprised that the Intel Graphics could handle that, it also can run Call Of Duty 4 on a custom set of graphics settings that make it look pretty good. Anyway, sorry to get off point there - basically I would have bought a new 2016 MBP if it was any good but damn, it is just too damn expensive for not enough "Pro" power, in my humble opinion. The Touch-bar does nothing for me, so hey, I have a great rMBP and it does everything I need it to do!
Hopefully 2017 brings "Back the Mac!" Not just MacBook Pros, but iMacs, Mac Pro's, and Mac Mini's. Anyway, good luck to everyone else!
The only thing wrong with the new 2016 rMBP is it's too CLEAN and NEW (and stripped down), if you aren't ready for that, it won't be for you.
CLEAR EXAMPLE:
I am wanting to get some sweet spy glasses from off Amazon for $100 and they use a sweet microSD card in them, and I want to be able to stop into Starbucks and pop out the card and put the card in my rMBP 2015, so just pull out my SDXC adapter that's in the slot and put the microSD card in, 32GB of video, over 2 hours of 720p video, copy that over to the SSD, edit in FCPX, output to where ever...
FUTURE EXAMPLE (1-2 years from now):
Wear some newer futuristic type of glasses that cost $300 that have BT4.x built in, and it streams to your iPhone and stores in iCloud, THAT WORK. You can edit on your iPhone 8 Plus (or whatever). Or open your new 2016 rMBP and in iCloud (5 minutes after you get WiFi) there is the video file after it downloads from the Apple iCloud server, and it's sitting on your rMBP '16. Would I need the SD Card? no...
It's just old TECH GETTING THE AXE! (classic apple)
I mean it's like hook up a TB3 256GB external and edit a 4K uncompressed 30 second commercial. I mean I said it and I'll say it again...
Who the f--- is going to use 4 Thunderbolt 3 ports at full speed... that's some insane use case, it's almost TOO PRO, or overkill...
That's terrible. They're saying that because you've been a loyal customer for 8 years they're not going to replace a faulty product. Way to go apple.
Wow, wtf. Tell them that's not how it works its not like, you can only buy AppleCare once and then you're covered on all your machines for the rest of your life. Your box is a lemon. If they refuse to replace then they should refund on principle.
I was greatly disappointed after waiting so long. My last MacBook Pro was a 2007 17" model whose logic board died a month after the recall ended (which I didn't even know about!), so getting a 2016 model was going to be a big deal. I've an old 2008 MacBook just to tinker with (added 4Gb and a 120Gb SSD), plus a 2012 Quad Core mini for something a bit more zippy.
Now I'm stuck. Don't really want to get the 2016 model as too damned expensive in the UK, so the 2015 model looks more attractive. Then there's the unknown of a 2017 edition with OLED display, etc., but suspect it will be more of the same obsession with making the damned things thinner and lighter. If I wanted lighter, I'd buy an Air!
I'd happily have a big old beast like the old 17" Pro again, with all the ports, function keys, and a touchscreen like this Dell I'm having to use for working from home presently.
Apple have lost the plot under Tim Cook, and Jony Ive seems to have lost his real creativity since the loss of Steve Jobs. Maybe time for some new brooms in the old closet!
Now I'm stuck. Don't really want to get the 2016 model as too damned expensive in the UK, so the 2015 model looks more attractive. Then there's the unknown of a 2017 edition with OLED display, etc., but suspect it will be more of the same obsession with making the damned things thinner and lighter. If I wanted lighter, I'd buy an Air!
I'd happily have a big old beast like the old 17" Pro again, with all the ports, function keys, and a touchscreen like this Dell I'm having to use for working from home presently.
Apple have lost the plot under Tim Cook, and Jony Ive seems to have lost his real creativity since the loss of Steve Jobs. Maybe time for some new brooms in the old closet!
I'm all set to go for the touch bar version at the end of this year. but I have heard speculations regarding a possibility for a refresh quite soon. Also informed that there will be price reduction, as well as processor upgrade. So if it doesn't take more than half a year from beginning of 2017 for the refresh, I'd rather wait. I personally think that the current price is a bit of a ripoff though. (still buying anyway)
Anyone?
Anyone?
The price increase is a rip-off, making already high prices extortionate.
Really wanted to get a new MacBook, but conflicted. It's the ever present problem of what's round the corner, and can I do without for now. In all reality, I probably can manage with the Mac Mini at home, and take my iPad out for any mobile needs.
Apple make life so difficult with their culture of secrecy.
Really wanted to get a new MacBook, but conflicted. It's the ever present problem of what's round the corner, and can I do without for now. In all reality, I probably can manage with the Mac Mini at home, and take my iPad out for any mobile needs.
Apple make life so difficult with their culture of secrecy.
Refresh.... they have only just started shipping, normal folk don''t even have them yet......
Look how long we waited for Skylake.... i doubt there will be a decent price drop and who knows when and if Intel will deliver on a new CPU.
October would be the earliest Update, can't see Intel getting there act together before then.
If you can wait 12 months, then do it. if you need a laptop, why wait.
I think find a 2015 model, run it for the next year then review drewjonn. Resale values for Apple kit are always good. If I do that, I'd probably carry on for a number of years to get my moneys worth to be honest.
I am perfectly happy with my 2015 rMBP. It has plenty of power, fast SSD, AND lots of ports + Magsafe! Mine only has Intel Iris 6100 graphics as I am not a big gamer at all, however, I did install Civilizations VI and I can run that at High Graphics with zero problems. I was surprised that the Intel Graphics could handle that, it also can run Call Of Duty 4 on a custom set of graphics settings that make it look pretty good. Anyway, sorry to get off point there - basically I would have bought a new 2016 MBP if it was any good but damn, it is just too damn expensive for not enough "Pro" power, in my humble opinion. The Touchbar does nothing for me, so hey, I have a great rMBP and it does everything I need it to do!
Hopefully 2017 brings "Back the Mac!" Not just MacBook Pros, but iMacs, Mac Pro's, and Mac Mini's. Anyway, good luck to everyone else!
I hear and agree with you. But I doubt that next year will bring anything meaningful other than more of the same.
I just got a new Mid-2015 MacBook Pro and I'm going to have to get the Thunderbolt-to-Ethernet adapter for $29+tax, unless I look on eBay or craigslist.
I can't imagine doing that for EVERY last port on my notebook.
I also don't get the TouchBar. I doubt I'd use it much or at all.
And the price...wow! At least it has a dedicated graphics chip in it. We're still in very good shape compared to the Europeans with their even crazier price hikes, which stem mostly from exchange rate manipulations.
I sincerely doubt that Apple will sell tons of these.
Yep, tons of people out there willing to lose those ports for the new tech, touch bar could come in handy, USB-C does open up some new possibilities. I believe they are selling as much as they can produce at this time.
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