The upcoming 15-inch MBP wirh 6-core/12 threads and 32 gb-ram will be really hard not too buy.
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Waiting for the 2018 MBP
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Im not really sure why you wonder? It can sustain longer because it is 15w chip vs 28w chip in small case without proper ventilation.There is disassembly on ifixit which clearly shows that "touch bar macbook pro" are made in last moment without proper redesign of the case and meant to be used in normal case with keyboard instead of touchbar and id.
Speakers are pushed down to the touch pad to the left and right,and in the place where should be speakers there is compromise for logic board and fans because they put touch bar near hinge
So I finally returned both, the 2015 13" MacBook pro and 2017 nTB MacBook pro. I finally liked the 2017 model and its keyboard, so I decided to return both and think if I should wait for the 2018 cannonlake MacBook pro
Today, some details of the Coffee Lake leaked, and even the i3 chips are quad core and have up to 60% better multicore performance. Yes, Coffee Lake are for CPUs 35W and bigger, whilst the 13" MacBook pro have 15-28W CPU and probably will use 10nm cannonlake CPU, but performance improvements with more cores will be noticeable. Plus, LPDDR4 RAM.
So... Is it worth to wait for the next 2018 MacBook pro? Or should I purchase now the Kaby Lake 13" MacBook pro with the free beats solo 3?
What would you do?
Today, some details of the Coffee Lake leaked, and even the i3 chips are quad core and have up to 60% better multicore performance. Yes, Coffee Lake are for CPUs 35W and bigger, whilst the 13" MacBook pro have 15-28W CPU and probably will use 10nm cannonlake CPU, but performance improvements with more cores will be noticeable. Plus, LPDDR4 RAM.
So... Is it worth to wait for the next 2018 MacBook pro? Or should I purchase now the Kaby Lake 13" MacBook pro with the free beats solo 3?
What would you do?
I'm in the same situation. I'll wait until Monday to see what Intel has to say and then I'll decide what to do.
Is it confirmed that cannonlake will support LPDDR4? If so, I think it's worth waiting.
The only trouble would be if, as I read, cannonlake don't ship with any GT3e graphics. If this is the case, we would be waiting the next MacBook pro until 2019 with Ice Lake, which on the other hand, should be amazing.
We have to thank AMD and it's ZEN CPUs for this movements on Intel.
The only trouble would be if, as I read, cannonlake don't ship with any GT3e graphics. If this is the case, we would be waiting the next MacBook pro until 2019 with Ice Lake, which on the other hand, should be amazing.
We have to thank AMD and it's ZEN CPUs for this movements on Intel.
A victory lap might be premature...Wait to see the price before.
Is this confirmed? Because it will be quite an issue.
Intel GT2e is sub par, when the 15 MBP is on integrated graphics MacOS UI used to lag big time, even when it has to power only the internal screen.
If it is the case, Apple has to do a thicker better cooled 13" with a discrete GPU, even a low end one or stick with a dual core CPU....
The price will balance out your desire no doubt!
I know we can do without but a 13 igpu quad core would be damn good and i'd take it in an heartbeat
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LPDDR4 just with Cannon lake or with Coffee Lake as well?
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no please not dual again ,its been ages now
hahaha,"please not dual core" like thats something disgusting. You understand that 4 cores vs 2 cores combined with GT2 graphic rendered useless,not to mentioned that 13" macbook aluminium case is too thin and there is no proper ventilation system for anything bigger than 35W TDP CPU+dGPU.
Im sure it will not be cheap, but i do belive that 4 core will be standard on the 13" as 6 core will be the standard on the 15". The extra 16 gb ram will not come for free though.
My guess is that we won't see a quad core chip in 13" models until 2018. The 15w quad core out now has the lower powered GT2 graphics. Once intel releases more models later with the 28w chips they are more likely to make their way into macbooks.
(This is what happened with the first round of kaby lake chips - there's a reason we never saw the i3-7300u in macbooks - it was a 15w chip with only GT 620 graphics)
Who knows, though.
Nah, much better the 2017 one. You have a less problematic keyboard, a more capable CPU, and hardware encoding and decoding of HEVC.
You are brave! With all this rumors about coffee and cannons... Maybe we won't have a new MacBook pro until 2019 with ice lake.
I am thinking the 2018 will be around mid-2018 again so next year.
But one thing, is for sure, I went to Apple Store when the 2016 came out, to try the Keyboard, I was like eh...
But I went to see the 2017, I went to TextEdit, and was going WHOA! QUICK!
But one thing, is for sure, I went to Apple Store when the 2016 came out, to try the Keyboard, I was like eh...
But I went to see the 2017, I went to TextEdit, and was going WHOA! QUICK!
I'm err "waiting" as well?
I'm shopping openly for an Lenovo X1 Carbon Gen 5, $1500 on the EPP site gets a i7/16gb/WQHD/1TB SSD, which is pretty amazing.
If the nTB MacBook Pro 13 was anywhere near those specs for that price (512SSD would have been fine honestly..) I'd have bought it already, I'm having trouble cross shopping.. Windows 10 Fall Creators Update with iPhone Messages/Continue-on-PC (Continuity) works well in my testing with the Insider Previews at this time on my work Lenovo T460P and well.. I'm probably looking for a 13"~14" form factor this time around.
I'm shopping openly for an Lenovo X1 Carbon Gen 5, $1500 on the EPP site gets a i7/16gb/WQHD/1TB SSD, which is pretty amazing.
If the nTB MacBook Pro 13 was anywhere near those specs for that price (512SSD would have been fine honestly..) I'd have bought it already, I'm having trouble cross shopping.. Windows 10 Fall Creators Update with iPhone Messages/Continue-on-PC (Continuity) works well in my testing with the Insider Previews at this time on my work Lenovo T460P and well.. I'm probably looking for a 13"~14" form factor this time around.
The Coffee Lake 13'' quad core MBPs next year will be amazing. Once eGPU support rolls out also, I will say good bye to my iMac and current MBP and make the new machine my all around computer, keeping it docked at home. And hopefully that new Apple Display comes out too by then.
Can't wait for that clean setup
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Can't wait for that clean setup
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Me tooThe Coffee Lake 13'' quad core MBPs next year will be amazing. Once eGPU support rolls out also, I will say good bye to my iMac and current MBP and make the new machine my all around computer, keeping it docked at home. And hopefully that new Apple Display comes out too by then.
Can't wait for that clean setup
So the first four 8th generation 15W models called Kaby Lake-R will be the i5-8250U, i5-8350U, i7-8550U, and i7-8650U, ranging from 1.6/3.4 GHz to 1.9/4.2GHz, and with only a GT2 HD 620 iGPU:
https://www.notebookcheck.net/Intel...by-Lake-R-series-launches-today.241768.0.html
These KBL-R chips aren't going in a rMBP13. Still waiting to see what will be done with the 28W 8th gen models.
So if these CPUs are just a Kaby Lake Refresh, when will we see 15/28 W Coffee Lake with GT3e GPU?
Eventhough these models dont have Intel Iris graphics, they have "Configurable TDP-up" mode of 25W. If Intel decides to not release a model with Intel Iris graphic, these models can be used. But I believe we'll see a 28W model with a Iris graphics later this year.
The issue is the iGPU, I can't see Apple going only with HD graphics in the rMBP13. And quad core at 15W with Iris would mean even worse single thread CPU performances: do not expect that.
No, I don't think they can be used, whatever the cTDP is, the regression in graphic performances would be too sensible. Yes, that's why I say we'll have to wait and see what will intel do with 28W upcoming models.
We've known for 12 months that there will be a quad-core 13", and recently we've known of the 6-core 45W chips not to mention the 6-core desktop parts. Its not a matter of 'if', especially today with the announcement.Agreed. The main reason I've bought 15" in the past is for quad core. If there was a 13" quad core option I'd probably go for that instead. Although that might change if the 15" had a hexcore option
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No.... It's only under 15W that is using Cannonlake. 15W and 28W were rumored to be 14nm++, but are actually a revised version of Kaby Lake. It is worth it to wait, but no LPDDR4 support so far, as expected.
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Yes, the first 4 have been announced but remember that it's not the entire lineup, there are more 15W models not to mention the 28W models. 28W will also be KBL-R. Personally I wouldn't mind either way because Apple could implement a 15W dGPU.
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The earliest we could see it is March, although the latest we could see it would be the end of the year, however we'll have new chips on the horizon then (it'd be like 2016 again).