And if true,combined with the DDR4 situation, basically means no one should be buying the 2018 model just to have it 6 months ahead for the Cannonlake one. If you have to have a laptop today, might as well just buy a refurb 2015 today and wait.
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Waiting for the 2018 MBP
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And if true,combined with the DDR4 situation, basically means no one should be buying the 2018 model just to have it 6 months ahead for the Cannonlake one. If you have to have a laptop today, might as well just buy a refurb 2015 today and wait.
From reading the ‘iMac Redesign for 2018?’ thread in the iMac subforum, it sounds like the one thing to caution against for a maxed CPU for the current iMac is it runs hot and the fans get loud. The last few pages of that thread are a mess, but EugW has some good posts earlier on about fan noise. You may want to browse through the pages from the last couple months and you’ll find some good info.
We aren‘t even halfway through 2018, what makes you think that there won‘t be any new MBPs during the next 7 months? Many people seem to expect a release towards September/October now so I think the thread title is fine
Yup, thats what I suspect too, but I personally would go with the 2017, since it will be a full year until you see a substantial update.
I was considering picking up a 2018 15 inch just to take advantage of all that Mojave has to offer and keep my Early 2015 on Sierra (don't want to cripple my Adobe CS6 apps). I notice I can't use my Apple Watch Series 3 to unlock my MacBook Pro - 10.13 required it seems. But its plain to see there are substantial updates coming to the MacBook Pro future, but they are just not ready.
- LPDDR4
- T2 security chip
- Possibly Thunderbolt 4
- Faster SSD storage
- further improved keyboard
- performance benefits from the Canonlake 10 NM shrink
- improved graphics - maybe promotion
- unique benefits of iOS apps runnng on macOS 10.15 requiring the 2019 MacBook Pro.
Tim Cook is also part of this decision, too. Apple wants a blow out quarter for fall 2018. They know there is a ripe user base waiting to upgrade; some are gonna jump now to the 2017, but a vast majority are gonna upgrade in the fall, too. With iPhone, iPad upgrades also waiting in the wings, this is gonna further help Apple meet its targets.
I'm in such a sweet spot right now to wait this out.
If Microsoft updates the Surface Book this year, I'm going to detour on that a bit until Apple comes out with the 2019 MacBook Pro.
What I impressed me about WWDC 2018 from a software point of view is Apple's commitment to the desktop. I got some flack on a Microsoft forum about Windows 10's messed up strategy and lack of sound direction. Yet, macOS Mojave and Craig's explanation of what makes a Mac, a 'Mac', was refreshing. Sure, there are some great iOS apps that could become desktop apps, but it doesn't mean the soul the mac OS needs to be sacrificed to embrace some of the benefits available in the iOS ecosystem.
Well, I’ll talk to you guys later this year, in October. See ya!
[doublepost=1528177170][/doublepost]Until then, ima be waiting for Mac OS mojave on my 2011 27” i5 iMac and 2015 13” i5 MBP
[doublepost=1528177170][/doublepost]Until then, ima be waiting for Mac OS mojave on my 2011 27” i5 iMac and 2015 13” i5 MBP
Because Apple wants to keep on what has often been their business model: Selling well aged hardware, which they can purchase - looking at CPUs e.g. - at most likely considerable lower prices than latest parts, for high-end prices.
I think I'm giving up. I live in India and it will go on sale by November. That's too late. And I doubt there's anything worth to wait till November. I don't need high end specs since I am not a regular pro user. For business purpose even 2018 MBP is more than enough and for fun using video editing, I'm sure 2018 MBP 13inch with Touch Bar can handle it well
Gutted .. I've never owned a Mac before but was going to jump in if they announced an update. There's no way I'm touching a 2016/2017 model though. My luck isn't capable of withstanding the keyboard issues.
I found a good deal on a 13" 2017 MBP base model (25% off msrp) so I went ahead and ordered. This MacBook can handle my computing needs for the coming time, my only concern is the keyboard issues. Hope it will survive until redesign.
On the other hand, in the dark side , they keep on coming... https://www.notebookcheck.net/The-A...-and-acts-like-a-second-monitor.307492.0.html
, they keep on coming... https://www.notebookcheck.net/The-A...-and-acts-like-a-second-monitor.307492.0.html
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On the other hand, in the dark side
Hooolyyy ****! TBH. that really looks cool. (And we are sitting here waiting for Apple to JUST release fix for keyboard + cpu/gpu upgrades..)
Looks really tempting tho
That is if Canonlake does not slip further of course.
. My concern is that we may get to end-2019 and still be limited to 16GB of RAM.
As I mentioned earlier, I need a Mac now so I’ll likely get a 5K iMac and potentially sell it on later this year (my girlfriend gets student discount so I’ll save ~300€ and that’ll help offset what I’ll lose when I sell, I guess). My only concern is Apple having some kind of summer event and releasing a new one a matter of weeks after I bite the bullet with an iMac.
Does anyone think the new Macs will be out in summer or are we thinking it’ll be more like October?
Does anyone think the new Macs will be out in summer or are we thinking it’ll be more like October?
I wouldn't be so sure about that. Do we have a concrete release date for Cannonlake yet or do we only know that it'll be sometime 2019?
If we get a repeat of the 2016/2017 situation then that would require Cannonlake to be released sometime in spring of 2019 and that's something I'm quite doubtful of – Cannonlake has been delayed multiple times, overall from 2016 to 2019, so if they only say 2019 without a concrete release date then knowing Intel I'm rather gonna assume it's going to be late 2019.
That is, if we do get a 2019 Cannonlake release after all and not another delay...
Because if they announced yesterday "We will be releasing a new Macbook Pro range in October" they will have 4 months of reduced sales of the existing model. That's why they prefer a short period between announcement and availability of new models of any product.
You say that there are no surprises about the iPhone, but most people in the general public don't even know the (pretty predictable) iPhone release schedule. Over the years I've warned a few people who were thinking of buying new iPhones in the late summer that they would be paying full price for last year's model, a few weeks before it was replaced. It's easy to forget that people who visit places like this and pay attention to this sort of stuff are a minority.
It isn't secrecy, but normal business logic
1) By telling people there is an update around the corner, you are committing to delivering that update - if there are (inevitable) delays or otherwise, you end up with a bad reaction. Look at HomePod delays, or even it's firmware delays to bring dual speakers.
2) You are pretty much killing sales of existing stock by notifying people of a newer version coming. People will happily wait even if to only buy the old one at a cheaper price if not the new one.
Blame Intel.
No wonder Apple wants to move away from them and possibly do their own CPU's. What is Intel doing these days? Always late. And AMD seems to overtake them as well as mobile ARM chips getting faster than their desktop CPU's.
Most likely 32GB in 2019 finally.
We will all want 64GB in 2019! Get out the pitchforks guys!
It's always the same when I'm looking to upgrade: the release schedule is longer than the previous year .
I can wait, which means I will. Apple's standard practice of not dropping the price for older hardware makes it difficult to justify buying a 2017 at this point unless I really needed it right now. So I'll just hope that they delay means they are working on the keyboard (not going to get hopes up on anything more).
.I can wait, which means I will. Apple's standard practice of not dropping the price for older hardware makes it difficult to justify buying a 2017 at this point unless I really needed it right now. So I'll just hope that they delay means they are working on the keyboard (not going to get hopes up on anything more).
now, that the new MBP are coming probably in October, can we expect to deliver quad core and six core for 13" and 15" , and for the 15" vega gpu ?
Cannonlake isn't even expected to include the chips that Apple uses for the MBP's (according to roadmaps), so I'm not sure why anyone would want to wait for Cannonlake at all.
Honestly,while i can understand the WWDC was all about software,Schiller not there was a sign imo,i think this Wwdc was really boring,Cook said Mac are at the core of the Apple'business but..to be frank..its well buried..,i hope to see at least some news on a quad core 13 inches and some sort of modular Mac ( from mini to pro) even if i don't see how this could be possible without changing the imac line,maybe the imac pro will be the only one Imac leaving space for a modular Mac,same with rumors with Air,how could this coexist with Macbook and Macbook 13 pro, perhaps could be with Air as entry level with a dual or and Atom, Macbook coming back as real notebook with real Cpu not Atom and then having the Macbook Pro,quad and exa and then the Project Star placed between Ipad Pro and the new Air,ramping up in the next years and putting the A Cpus in the notebook's field.This makes sense for me but i don't see Apple doing it .If so would be magic.
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One wonders whether they now regret overengineering for thinness if the new chips are indeed that much hotter and more power hungry.
If this is as good as it looks, then I don't think I need a MBP anymore.On the other hand, in the dark side
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If they don't regret broken GPU's, broken screens and broken keyboards, it's hard to imagine that they have any regrets at all.