What would you be prepared to pay for an imaginary 15" MBP with 32G hex core 4k screen and 1TB drive? €2500? €2800? €3200?
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Waiting for the 2018 MBP
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So what you are asking me here is essentially - all specs being equal, what Apple tax would I be prepared to pay ?
At most 10 - 12% over another brand. Not by any stretch the 63% that it is right now (and thats with the competition having better specs!)
But where’s the fun in thatThey’ll always be someone who will claim it is this Tuesday. Best to forget about it and check back in a few weeks.
I’m really struggling with the value proposition of the MBP too, when you can get a HP X360 15” with a G series processor, 4K touchscreen (with pen included), normal keyboard, normal port selection and 512GB SSD for literally £1,000 less than an equivalently specced MBP...
Even in Apple ecosphere there are options of much better value than the current 15", especially if you need an external monitor and peripherals along with it.
- 15" MBP $2399 + monitor $600 + peripherals $179 = $3178
versus
- 27" iMac (with SSD) $1899 + base MB $1299 = $3198
or
- 13" MBP with 256gb and 16gb RAM $1699 + monitor $600 + eGPU enclosure $300 + RX 570 $250 + peripherals $179 = $3028
Both better options IMO because you get a more portable device when on the road and better and/or upgradeable hardware when at your desk. Unless you really need the power of the 15" when on the road, it really has a poor value right now.
That's what we're used to.
For the form factor yes, for performance orientated notebooks no. My hex core GL703GS is lucky to exceed 70C under a maximum 100% 45W load. Apple places the user experience over practicalities such as cooling, likely as the majority of it's user's don't push the hardware.
Why? if the vast majority of users pushed did their Mac's, Apple would respond with far more performant systems with more robust cooling solution's, not the current weak Ultrabook's it currently churns out...
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Given the recent track record, it's always going to be old…
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A factor of owing a MAC these days, weak, wearisome and vastly overpriced for the core purpose...
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Curious, what justifies these 10-12% to you? The fact that it's Apple, so just the brand? The operating system? That some (yes, not all) parts are better engineered than any other computer out there? Resale value? Anything else?
I think that 10% "Apple Tax" would be ok in 2018. It's just like: I'm prepared to pay 10% over other brands because of MacOS. But it used to be: I paid this premium because of the OS / design & build quality / screen... but not anymore, not in 2018.
Interesting. Not that I blame you, but I think most Apple customers are prepared to pay more over the competition.
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For me it's easily the OS. Just imagine if Apple laptops shipped with Windows instead of macOS. I don't think I'd be looking at them at all, quite frankly. With macOS, I get both a better Windows and a better Linux, in one package. I'm personally prepared to pay more than 10-12% for that, but not 50% and not 63%.
Well, what justified it in the past was all those things together. I have work to get done and CPU core count and RAM size matters to me. I used to buy the top spec MBP as the best way of achieving that. But, even though I prefer MacOS to windows, that is no longer the case, and so Windows over MacOS has become a more acceptable compromise. I feel that their pricing strategy since they introduced the Touchbar has driven me further away and forced me into compromises. And those compromises are no longer just between different specs of Apple models, but between other brands too since other brands will give me more computing power for my €€€. So now, even if I do get an Apple it wouldn't be the top spec at all. In short they are pricing themselves out of the market.
I dunno. Probably regional too. I think the price difference between Apple and competitors is probably greater in Europe than in US
Even if they DID release updates machines. 16GB max = no buy, period.
I could live without ANY of the other niceties. 4k, HDMI, no physical ESC key, no MagSafe, no SD Card Slot, no 17" option... I can live with
I could live without ANY of the other niceties. 4k, HDMI, no physical ESC key, no MagSafe, no SD Card Slot, no 17" option... I can live with
Don't forget the Trackpad, though... which is still better
Oh hello, the original post about hex-core i7 and my response (plus more) are now MIA. Dear mods, um, why?
To be honest, personally, I would prefer to wait for an October refresh if they are going to upgrade just the specs! I mean, in this case, a new hope for a MBP with much better keyboard and just a much better MBP in general, is going to be 2019!
EDIT: But maybe they are going to announce a RAD new Macbook Pro in less than two hours everyone!
Stretchhhhhhh....Just woke up from my nap...did I miss something?...are they here?!!!! Please tell me they are!!
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It's worth noting that the 'NEW' label under each device has been removed. Expecting something now...
I went to the Apple store today and on of the Genius told me that they will probably release it after the iPhone event.
See you in October ladies and gentlemen!
See you in October ladies and gentlemen!
What do you mean? Where did it used to say new? ooooooohhhhhh.....the anticipation is killing me. No update today though will kill me more.
These were removed a month ago or so I believe. That is step one though in a refresh though.