A few year ago the most expensive MBP I could buy was a bout €3,300. Now its €5,059 !! Not quite £30,000 but its heading that direction!
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Waiting for the 2018 MBP
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A few year ago the most expensive MBP I could buy was a bout €3,300. Now its €5,059 !! Not quite £30,000 but its heading that direction!
If anything becomes over or underpriced, the company will lose out in the end. I mean there already are people I've noticed who have jumped ship to Windows, people who wouldn't have 3/5/10 years ago, so all these factors are probably contributing to that.
I'm seriously considering that jump myself, and its partly down to price, partly down to the direction the MBP is going.
Similarly, I'm pretty sure you'd jump ship if a company resorted to charging extortionate fee's to backup your iCloud
.Similarly, I'm pretty sure you'd jump ship if a company resorted to charging extortionate fee's to backup your iCloud
I'm not really understanding you since I don't really use icloud ?!
Oh, it is on the back of the post made by someone else: https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/waiting-for-the-2018-mbp.2048940/page-283#post-26234354
If you're asking that question, chances are that they won't actually be very noticeable!
In average use you probably won't notice anything at all. In Cinebench you will see a dramatic difference. (Presumably 50% or 100% depending on whether you're talking about 13" or 15") But in real world apps, even for those that take advantage of multithreading, most of the time you spend in the app is probably not going to be any different at all. You'll only notice the difference when you do anything computational. And chances are, that it uses the GPU anyway, so you still may not notice much difference.
A few years ago, my laptop was a MacBook Air 4Gb (2-core) and my desktop was a 5820K 32Gb (6-core). I was repeatedly surprised with how productive I was on the MBA (for coding), even though the desktop system was probably something like 4X faster for multithreaded tasks. So while we all keep wanting the top specs for everything, the actual impact on productivity is likely very small. And if you're in the exception, you know it.
The caveat to this however is future proofing. If you buy your machine now intending to keep it to 5 years then you might be better waiting for the extra cores. Multi-threading is becoming more prevalent especially with the likes of AMD pushing highly multicore processors and intel playing catchup (I mean this is why they are increasing core counts on the MBPs chips ultimately), and its likely that more and more programs will use it going forward.
My personal view is that future proofing is a fundamentally flawed concept. I don't think it's a good reason to spend more than you otherwise would, or wait longer than you otherwise would.
Don’t forget that a single generation of processors are released over a period of time, sometimes over a year even.
Just because a new gen is announced, doesn’t mean that the powerful chips that are put into MBPs are immediately out of date.
I think that depends. If you are the sort of person who upgrades every iteration then I agree with you. If however you upgrade once in 5 years and it just so happens this iteration adds extra cpu cores (i.e. is more fundamental jump than usual), I think future proofing comes into play.
Personally I would not buy anything with 7th generation chips now unless it was an absolute necessity. I think its madness to buy the current MBPs, unless you have an unavoidable work related necessity.
I make this jump almost daily, to Windows running in a Parallels virtual machine! But joke aside, because I need Windows for work, I tried to switch to a Windows PC on a yearly bases for the last couple of years. Always came back. The longest absence was when the new 2016 models were announced. Now I still work on my 2015 MacBook Pro 15, but I also have a 2017 model for all my private activities, and I must confess that now I actually like the new version.
My personal view I think it is foolish to never take future proofing under consideration, unless you know you will upgrade something like every 2 years. I also think it's foolish under many circumstances to not wait, if you know one of the biggest upgrades in years is coming in a few months.
Well. Your argument works just as well for you, as it works against you. If you don't FEEL the additional weight and space of a dongle... because the bag is full of other stuff ALREADY... well then you surely wouldn't feel the difference if instead of the dongle, the MBP was a few mm thicker and HAD all the ports to begin with.
Also... how are you supposed to change all the cables? If you are AT HOME, sure. But there you don't have to carry your computer around in a bag for hours where the weight might make a difference. The problem is when you HAVE to carry it around. Why? Because you are most likely going somewhere... and this somewhere you can most likely NOT control... i.e. you cannot just change the cables in, say... a boardroom of another company. Nor can you replace the SD card in your camera with a USB-C cable.
I'm more towards the opposite, I go at least 4 years between upgrades. Granted, I'm more in the desktop space than the laptop space. But future proofing -- as in buying something now, that you may have use for 3 years from now, presumably in order to save money -- this concept mostly doesn't work. First of all, you're paying quite a bit more for that extra than you would 3 years into the future. Also, you don't know to what extent you will need that extra. Maybe there's a 50% chance that 3 years from now you will need 6 cores. Chances are, you're way overpaying for something that you have no way of accurately predicting.
Instead, if someone wants to save money, I would argue for "now proofing" (to coin a term). Buy the least amount of hardware that will do the job now and 1 year ahead. Whenever this hardware doesn't serve you anymore, sell the old and do the same again with up to date hardware. This may shorten your upgrade cycle somewhat, but you'll for sure be paying far less than if you consistently get pants that are too large.
Now of course, let's not be stupid. If you're on the fence between 8G and 16G, get 16G. If a 30% performance boost is around the corner, and that performance is meaningful to you, by all means wait. But for the majority of people, I would argue that future proofing just ends with them spending more without gaining anything at all.
Its not a comprehensive study or survey but MacRumor's facebook post about the Kuo news story has so many replies in facebook about people saying too late, they will or have left the Mac platform.
While I'm not saying Apple is doomed, I do wonder if this is the tipping point of Macs, where people wanting a nicely built machine are looking at other computer makers. Apple always had a small marketshare, but a great reputation, with that reputation now being eroded, what motivation for us consumers to spend a large of money when there are other well made, well functioning laptops for a lot less.
I don’t know about the rest of you but the amount of time I have spent on MBP 2017-2018 related threads and the productivity I have lost over the past 2.5 years have a big negative impact on me. If no MBP 2018 by tomorrow, I need to try other manufacturer. I HATE Apple now.
They should outsource the computer division and allow anyone to license macOS and put it on whatever machine they want. That should tip things back in terms of market share.
;-)
And the issue if they were to consider doing that is that at a stroke MacOS loses any edge it may have over Windows due to close hardware-software optimisation, as it will need to be made to run on a much wider configuration of hardware...
Did The Verge jump the gun on publishing this? MBP's are apparently being updated today?
https://www.theverge.com/2018/7/12/...-touchbar-2018-intel-processor-siri-true-tone
https://www.theverge.com/2018/7/12/...-touchbar-2018-intel-processor-siri-true-tone