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Also, blacks look more gray on matte displays, the reason I prefer glossy, and I never, ever had problems with reflections.

Also, MBP is brighter than XPS, so your 20% brightness comment really makes no sense to me, but hey, your choice.

Glossy are generally more colour accurate, that can't be denied - hence why Apple moved away from matte displays

By brightness, it is by the level of screen brightness. So starting from minimum brightness setting, 2 ticks of brightness vs 4/5 on the MacBook, the XPS was more clearer. I am aware that the MacBook has more peak brightness - the result surprised me at the time.
 
Also, blacks look more gray on matte displays, the reason I prefer glossy, and I never, ever had problems with reflections.

Also, MBP is brighter than XPS, so your 20% brightness comment really makes no sense to me, but hey, your choice.

Every laptop beats the macbook pros for 1/2 the price. Hadn't you heard?
 
The Radeon Pro 580 e-GPU option doesn't seem that enticing, I hear it is between a GTX 1060 and a GTX 1070 in performance, with it being closer to the GTX 1060, so that is shying me away from getting a 13" with the e-GPU enclosure...

Wasn't expecting 1080 TI performance, but was hoping it was at least around the 1070/1080 tier. The in-built ones I presume are very close to GTX 1050?
I'm talking about the build in gnu the 580x its exactly same as 2017 one but with slight higher clock speed, thats so poor I expected a huge gnu update
 
Similar to any other Apple hardware when new one comes out. Not everyone needs more cores, btw. And no need to be all ;) about it.
By my recollection, this is actually not true, if the older iMacs are any indication. The quad-core models retained their resale values significantly better than the dual-core models available the day before.

But this shouldn't come as a big surprise.
 
This is absolutely insane:
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What is even the point of options this expensive? What moron walks around with an €8,000 laptop waiting for someone to snatch their bag? Hardly going to use the thing in Starbucks are you ?
 
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Well, my recent purchase of a used 2015 13" MBP still feels like a good decision. At least until they come up with a redesign that hopefully removes or de-emphasises the touchbar. Or at least provide a less-nerfed non-TB model.
I think you can forget the latter. More likely the non-TB model will disappear completely would be my guess.

Whether the TB will disappear in the next redesign is a more interesting question to speculate on, but it's impossible to guess. If it starts to appear on other models we'll know that they are doubling down on it. Otherwise the only reason to keep it would be because Apple never admit to making mistakes, but that might be enough.
 
I'm talking about the build in gnu the 580x its exactly same as 2017 one but with slight higher clock speed, thats so poor I expected a huge gnu update
I would say most of us did not expect a huge GPU update. As mentioned earlier in the thread, we knew months ago that AMD had rebranded Polaris to 500X series for release in 2018. Mainstream Vega may appear but it would mean a significant later release.

The question now is whether or not the new iMacs will get Polaris, or if they will get Vega. I had been predicting Polaris, but that was based on a June/July release time frame, which didn't happen. If the new iMacs are delayed until October, then perhaps there's a chance they'll get Vega, although Polaris is still a possibility.
 
OK, so I need your opinions on what's the better choice of the following configurations:

1) 2.2ghz, upgraded 32gb RAM, upgraded 512gb SSD - $2,789
2) 2.6ghz, upgraded 32gb RAM, 512gb SSD - $2,959
3) 2.6ghz, 16gb RAM, 512gb SSD - $2,599

My wife is a photographer and will use this MBP for mostly editing in Lightroom, blogging, web, email. Nothing too intense, but definitely some photoshop with the majority of work in Lightroom. I'm not sure if the 32gb RAM or the 2.6ghz processor would be overkill or not. We're currently working with an iMac and a 2011 MBP, so it's time to upgrade.

Also, the 2.6 v 2.2 models have a different graphics card, which is a consideration as well.

Appreciate anyone's opinion.
 
There is a new report by Ming-Chi Kuo about updates to the MacBooks and MacBook Pros in fall, including “significant display-performance upgrades” which is interesting (new Vega GPUs after all?), among other things. He also mentions updates to the iMacs and, most noticeably, the Mac mini.

So I guess Fall it is then. But at least these updates sound huge.
OK, so I need your opinions on what's the better choice of the following configurations:

1) 2.2ghz, upgraded 32gb RAM, upgraded 512gb SSD - $2,789
2) 2.6ghz, upgraded 32gb RAM, 512gb SSD - $2,959
3) 2.6ghz, 16gb RAM, 512gb SSD - $2,599

My wife is a photographer and will use this MBP for mostly editing in Lightroom, blogging, web, email. Nothing too intense, but definitely some photoshop with the majority of work in Lightroom. I'm not sure if the 32gb RAM or the 2.6ghz processor would be overkill or not. We're currently working with an iMac and a 2011 MBP, so it's time to upgrade.

Also, the 2.6 v 2.2 models have a different graphics card, which is a consideration as well.

Appreciate anyone's opinion.

Why don't you start a new thread? No one will notice this question (snowed under) on page 290 of this thread. Everybody is to excited about the new MBP's.
 

Yep. My current MacBook Pro (late-2013) is a Core i7 2.6Ghz w/ maxed out RAM. Every time a MacBook is refreshed, I compare the CPUs and mine was actually just as fast as the 2016 MacBook Pro (3 years later) and the 2017 was about 40% faster. This new one is twice as fast at Multicore, 50% faster at single core and has faster RAM, SSD and the GPU is about twice as fast.

So finally time to purchase. The base MacBook pro 15" isn't all that better than my 2013 maxed out.

The one thing I'll miss..NVIDIA GPU. Going to AMD means I'm losing CUDA cores for Davinci Resolve.
 
OK, so I need your opinions on what's the better choice of the following configurations:

1) 2.2ghz, upgraded 32gb RAM, upgraded 512gb SSD - $2,789
2) 2.6ghz, upgraded 32gb RAM, 512gb SSD - $2,959
3) 2.6ghz, 16gb RAM, 512gb SSD - $2,599

My wife is a photographer and will use this MBP for mostly editing in Lightroom, blogging, web, email. Nothing too intense, but definitely some photoshop with the majority of work in Lightroom. I'm not sure if the 32gb RAM or the 2.6ghz processor would be overkill or not. We're currently working with an iMac and a 2011 MBP, so it's time to upgrade.

Also, the 2.6 v 2.2 models have a different graphics card, which is a consideration as well.

Appreciate anyone's opinion.

Honestly it may well be overkill/more than she needs right now, but then who know's what software looks like in 3-5 years time, where the 32GB RAM could end up shining?

I'd go with option 2 personally.
 
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OK, so I need your opinions on what's the better choice of the following configurations:

1) 2.2ghz, upgraded 32gb RAM, upgraded 512gb SSD - $2,789
2) 2.6ghz, upgraded 32gb RAM, 512gb SSD - $2,959
3) 2.6ghz, 16gb RAM, 512gb SSD - $2,599

My wife is a photographer and will use this MBP for mostly editing in Lightroom, blogging, web, email. Nothing too intense, but definitely some photoshop with the majority of work in Lightroom. I'm not sure if the 32gb RAM or the 2.6ghz processor would be overkill or not. We're currently working with an iMac and a 2011 MBP, so it's time to upgrade.

Also, the 2.6 v 2.2 models have a different graphics card, which is a consideration as well.

Appreciate anyone's opinion.
Are you getting a new iMac too?

I'm no expect but if the MacBook Pro was a photographer's main machine, I'd suggest 32 GB. If the main machine was an iMac though, you would want to get 40 GB on the iMac, whereas 32 GB on the MacBook Pro might not be as necessary, depending on how long she kept the machine.

But FWIW, I am usually not a heavy user of my MacBook, but I got 16 GB anyway. For me 8 GB is about what I need, but I tend to keep my laptops a LONG time like you seem to, so I went with 16 GB. If you plan on keeping that MBP a long time, then 32 GB might be advisable for a photographer.

Also, can't she claim the MBP as a business expense?
 
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So whats the cost of a fully maxed out configuration MBP 15 2018?

From playing around on the Apple website:

6,699 USD in the US (taxes excluded)
8,059 EUR (9400 USD) in EU (taxes included)
~790,000 JPY (7000 USD) here in Japan (taxes included)

Huge differences, yes, EU prices are once again absolutely bonkers.

It must be said that half of the maxed-out price is the 4TB drive alone, so those figures are not really indicative. I don't see how that option could make any logical sense for anyone, honestly.
 
OK, so I need your opinions on what's the better choice of the following configurations:

1) 2.2ghz, upgraded 32gb RAM, upgraded 512gb SSD - $2,789
2) 2.6ghz, upgraded 32gb RAM, 512gb SSD - $2,959
3) 2.6ghz, 16gb RAM, 512gb SSD - $2,599

My wife is a photographer and will use this MBP for mostly editing in Lightroom, blogging, web, email. Nothing too intense, but definitely some photoshop with the majority of work in Lightroom. I'm not sure if the 32gb RAM or the 2.6ghz processor would be overkill or not. We're currently working with an iMac and a 2011 MBP, so it's time to upgrade.

Also, the 2.6 v 2.2 models have a different graphics card, which is a consideration as well.

Appreciate anyone's opinion.

Does she store her photos locally? If she's shooting RAW and using Lightroom, get a 1TB SSD. 16GB of RAM is sufficient for Lightroom.

I have a late-2013 MBP w/ 16GB of RAM and it handles Lightroom RAW Images from my Canon 5D and Final Cut Pro 4K video editing just fine. Things are faster on my iMac w/ 32GB of RAM but the big win of the iMac is the much better GPU.
 
The Radeon Pro 580 e-GPU option doesn't seem that enticing, I hear it is between a GTX 1060 and a GTX 1070 in performance, with it being closer to the GTX 1060, so that is shying me away from getting a 13" with the e-GPU enclosure...

Wasn't expecting 1080 TI performance, but was hoping it was at least around the 1070/1080 tier. The in-built ones I presume are very close to GTX 1050?

The Built-In dGPU in the 15" is built for power efficiency more than anything else and while it isn't bad, per se, it is never going to approach the higher tier NVIDIA cards.

If you need/want 1070/1080 performance, you need to be looking at a Vega 64, not an RX580, plus the cost of the eGPU enclosure.

The cost of a nicely equipped 13" i7/16GB/512GB plus the eGPU(Razer Core X) and an 8GB Vega64 is going to be around $3399.00 USD total ($2499.00-MBP, $299.00-Razer Core X and $599.00-SapphireTech Nitro+ Vega 64 LE).

On the flip side, for $3499, you can max out the CPU and RAM on a 15" or for $3599, max out the RAM, keep the base CPU and move to 1TB of storage. The benefit being that you have a 6-core 15" model with 32GB of RAM, which is no slouch and you can add an eGPU and a 7nm Vega "Navi" in mid-2019.

Personally, I want all the firepower I can get and I would opt for the 15" w/ 32GB of DRAM and the 1TB Flash Storage. I would also get the Core i9 upgrade, but that's me.
 
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OK, so I need your opinions on what's the better choice of the following configurations:

1) 2.2ghz, upgraded 32gb RAM, upgraded 512gb SSD - $2,789
2) 2.6ghz, upgraded 32gb RAM, 512gb SSD - $2,959
3) 2.6ghz, 16gb RAM, 512gb SSD - $2,599

My wife is a photographer and will use this MBP for mostly editing in Lightroom, blogging, web, email. Nothing too intense, but definitely some photoshop with the majority of work in Lightroom. I'm not sure if the 32gb RAM or the 2.6ghz processor would be overkill or not. We're currently working with an iMac and a 2011 MBP, so it's time to upgrade.

Also, the 2.6 v 2.2 models have a different graphics card, which is a consideration as well.

Appreciate anyone's opinion.

Buy what you can afford, with an emphasis on maxing out and future proofing as much as possible. These things are so locked down, the idea of upgrading is non-existent. MacBook Pro's have a long life, I have a 18 year old PowerBook G4 right now, bought it for $100. So, buy it with the intention of keeping it for a while and also resale value. Just make sure Apple Care is part of the purchase. I'm sure between running Photoshop CC, Lightroom, Chrome; you can never have enough RAM.
 
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