Really? My 2012 runs very cool, and the Razer I had easily pushed into 70c under load. What temps are you seeing that indicates it runs cooler then a 2012 laptop? Btw, all of my research has indicated that coffee lake runs hotter then prior generations, so what you post is a bit confusing.
Give your local store a call. Seems like some people are expecting the new MBPs to be there in the UK in the next few days.
I agree, i realised a while back that it doesn't matter what Apple do some people will still complain, people wanted 32GB Ram they now have it, people wanted more SSD storage they now have it, but some are STILL not happy instead they complain about the price. I think what some people forget is that these are Pro machine's they are not general consumer laptops, we are talking people who video edit, photography, coders, scientists, movie makers, hell even writers such as myself who also dabble in video editing (more of a hobby and to help a couple of friends out from time to time), they are not machines that the general consumer needs to buy in order to sit in Starbucks.
As far as i can see the 2018 MacBook Pro update is a great one, Quad Core for the 13" and 6 Core for the 15" along side the T2 chip, True Tone displays and better keyboards which are more quieter (and probably more reliable).
Apple are obviously listening to people and yet some are STILL not HAPPY
If that's the case, maybe you'd be better off upgrading in 2019 or 2020? While the 2018 is new, maybe you'll get 30-60 mins more battery life out of it? But that gap will shrink as the battery ages. That and True Tone are of course still genuine improvements, but $1200 is a fair bit to pay for just that.
Graphics will be exactly the same as previously. Overall, how much of an improvement you see depends entirely on what you do. Theoretically you could see +20% for single core, and more than double the speed for multicore. Trouble is, for most things most people do with laptops, that doesn't translate to real world performance at all. People post all kinds of benchmarks, video rendering time is one popular thing. But we forget that the whole editing process for a video may be (let's say) 2 hours, and then the rendering takes 10 minutes. A faster machine may make the rendering take 7 minutes. But overall you have a total work time of 127 minutes instead of 130 minutes. That's really not a big difference.
Ha - so I see! Had just requested an i9/32GB/1TB 15" through work; was bummed to see this from Dave 2D. I shouldn't be surprised based on reviews of other laptops with i9s, including larger ones with gamer-style cooling (read: loud and max)... and yet, I still am. Apple giveth... Apple taketh away. Sigh...
There's a 13" i5 thread that seems to indicate you may not have dodged a bullet. I can't say for sure, since I'm paying more attention to the 15" laptop since that's what I ordered.
Maybe you haven't been paying attention to this thread the past week. I believe someone (no names) said on release day that there's effectively nothing to gain from choosing the i9, and some benchmarks now even suggest that the i9 is slower. It may even be the case that the different i7 options give just about exactly the same performance in real life. Of course, few listen, and just go with the hype anyway. I haven't seen the two i7's benchmarked in the MBP, but I've seen the same CPUs benchmarked in other laptops and there was little to no difference there.
All ultrabooks throttle. The 2017's did, and all other brands (to my knowledge) also do. The 13" i5 still seems comparatively fine to me. The base 15" i7 is also probably fine.
Oh, it certainly would. The specs on paper are quite impressive, and from only looking at that it would seem like a worthwhile upgrade, at least for some. No question there.
How is the heat issue. That is my biggest concern. Currently have a mid 2012 13” Air that is almost always cool. I have borrowed a stock mid 2015 15” Pro and found that it gets warm on my lap on the couch. And it is just a Quad. I want the 15” over the 13” but am worried both Pro sizes will run warm like that 2015 I’ve used, of which use is just email and web with some short YouTube videos while sitting on the couch. Maybe it is just that machine but I don’t relish the idea of a laptop that is uncomfortable on my lap.
