Waiting for the 2019 MBP [Merged]

[Stephen.R]

I would suggest that you have no clue of the working environments and locations.

I have no clue where you work, no. But that isn't really the point is it? If you deliberately refuse to buy or consider anything USB-C then no, you won't see it used. But the sheer number of products listed on technology sites seems to indicate that there are in fact a metric ****-ton of native USB-C and TB3 products available if you choose to avail yourself of them.

Indeed, logic isn’t my strongest side.
I could never compare shaver to a 3000$+ laptop.

USB-A is "everywhere" in the sense that power outlets are everywhere, because it's been around since the late 90s. But most devices don't have a type-A port - they typically have a type-B (either micro, mini, full, in 2.0 or 3.0 format) or more recently type-C port and use a detachable cable. Yes I know some devices have a fixed type-A male connector, but besides USB flash drives, the vast majority use a removable cable, which can be swapped to type-C for.. $5 or $10, if you don't want to use a hub or some such device.

In that regard, one could say that bananas are yellow. So is my car. So my car is a banana.

You raised the "USB-A is used more" point, don't blame me if you don't like the explanation of why.

Because what you need and use is what everyone needs and uses.

No, not at all, and I never claimed that. You suggested I would need to ask my clients for some device or other because I "forgot a dongle".

The irony that you're campaigning against one of, if not the most versatile computer ports in history and for single-use ports with an argument about "what you need and is is what everyone needs and uses" is not lost on me.
[doublepost=1553505019][/doublepost]I also love that you just ignored any mention of similar-but-different standards, such as CompactFlash, Memory Stick, DisplayPort. Nobody uses any of those I guess. The entire world runs on USB-A, HDMI and SD cards?
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I see that you will try to defend everything Apple does

I just noticed this.

Not at all - as I said, in numerous threads, I think the MBP's (and Mac mini, iMacs etc) should have at least 6 TB3 ports - four isn't enough. I'm also disappointed at how they've marketed the 2018 Mini's graphics capabilities, and I found the 2018 MBP's keyboard hard to adjust to (compared to both an older MBP and to the Apple "Magic" Keyboard).

But hey don't let that stop you from rolling out the typical "someone doesn't agree that this new thing is terrible so they're clearly just an apologist/iSheep/Fanboy/<whatever idiotic phrase you've all decided to use this month>".

 

[Ma2k5]

Great so you at least recognise someone may have a use for a port you don't.

But it isn't about me, it is about the majority of professionals. Are we to suggest MacBook's are made for a niche within a niche?

So, you personally don't use it.

I do use it both at home and at office regularly.

I'm so glad you've got the entirety of people who use laptops professionally mapped out in your mind. You must be in great demand by product marketing types.

Are you actually on the mind that most people benefit from 4? That would be rather disingenuous, even for some of the biggest Apple fanboys.

Faster transfers, and thus less time waiting are only a "theoretical" benefit if you're happy to sit around and wait for things. I've worked in an office for someone else, I get it. "Waiting for data to copy" is the new "waiting for <foo> to compile", aka the office worker's break. My clients don't really expect to pay me to be sitting around twiddling my thumbs watching files move around, so it's a very literal financial benefit for me and my clients.

Again, how many people in the professional environment would be bottle necked by two TB 3 ports? I think you are greatly missing the point. It is theoretical that, 99% of people would never be able to benefit from that.

A USB-C to USB-A cable costs.. maybe $10? A USB-C to HDMI cable is.. $20? and a USB-C Card Reader (which supports more formats than a MacBook Pro ever did built-in) costs $15. You've already admitted you personally don't use a card reader or HDMI - so how many USB A-to-C cables do you need? Maybe we can have a MR whip-around if your company somehow won't provide them?

A material inconvenience indeed. You can defend Apple till your blue in the face, I'll hedge my bets that a MacBook with 2 TB 3 and a variety of other ports would have been a lot more favoured than the current iteration. I own a TB MBP now, I also owned various Window laptops and I can say that both the new TB MBP and the XPS 9370 cause me some port headache that I would otherwise never have experienced from my 2014 MBP/XPS 9360. Similarly, the 4 TB3 ports I now have are overkill and I gain no benefit out of the change. Not just for me, but for the vast majority of users. You have been brainwashed by the words "legacy".

You are maybe in the 1% who can benefit with such a system. I've worked in over a dozen companies and I do wonder the day I'll see professionals actually utilising 4 TB3 ports.

 

[Queen6]

I have no clue where you work, no. But that isn't really the point is it? If you deliberately refuse to buy or consider anything USB-C then no, you won't see it used. But the sheer number of products listed on technology sites seems to indicate that there are in fact a metric ****-ton of native USB-C and TB3 products available if you choose to avail yourself of them.

You should try reading deeper, every notebook I've owned and used professionally since 2015 has had USB C barring Microsoft's Surface Book. It's not a question of a computer having USB C/TB-3 more the stripping of all other ports that are in common use by the vast majority of people on a daily basis. Even my on the go, in the hand tablet format 2in1 has greater usability than the current MBP as it has a port selection that makes sense for it's role, replacing a 2015 Apple rMB, with lack of port diversity being one of the factors.

As you said technology sites, not centres of business, engineering design & manufacturing facilities, maintenance facilities. If you read what I stated there's nothing wrong with USB C/TB-3 it's indeed a significant advancement, equally the implementation is just as important if not more so.

Apple's implementation tends to work against many, as there's now no port diversification. Forces the use of dongles & adaptors, third party solutions as Apple does not produce a desktop USB C/TB-3 dock, barring the multiport adapters. There's reasons why some are dropping the MBP this is just one in isolation...

Q-6
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[Queen6]

Double post, please delete.

 

[Stephen.R]

But it isn't about me, it is about the majority of professionals.

Great, now tell me what combination of ports the majority need? Besides USB-A or the current TB3/USB-C I will guarantee any choice you make will be useless to more people than it's useful to.

So, do you just play Russian roulette of single-use ports, or do you provide as many multi-purpose ports as possible, and let end-users buy whichever ridiculously cheap adapter they need for their specific purpose?

I do use it both at home and at office regularly.

Your sig says you have a 2018 13" - how do you possibly use HDMI without a physical HDMI port?

Are you actually on the mind that most people benefit from 4?

I'm actually of the opinion that TB3 is the most versatile port in computer history, and that providing as many as possible gives the user a ridiculously large number of possible combinations of accessories they can connect.

Again, how many people in the professional environment would be bottle necked by two TB 3 ports?

How long is a piece of string? You can connect almost anything to a TB3 port. An SSD and an eGPU alone would suck up the ports.

The only part of your entire argument that maybe I can understand is the SD card port - because it would mean you wouldn't need a card reader at all - but that's if you use SD cards. For HDMI - a USB-C to HDMI cable starts at maybe $12 or $15. The cheapest plain HDMI cable I saw was $6. So, another $6 and you just carry a different HDMI cable. Or a USB-C to female HDMI port is around $17. Same goes for USB - type A to mini/micro/full-sized "B" cables start around $6, and type-C to whatever-variant of B or even A start at $7. Or a hub starts around $15.

Oh, oh. Look, a USB-C to HDMI + Card Reader + 2x USB3.0 Type-A.. for THIRTY DOLLARS!? Your entire "complaint" is solved by a single $30 adapter, which has as many USB-A ports, and more choice in card format, as any 15" or 13" Mac laptop has had since the Intels at least, and I'd guess probably any ever.

So you could give up two TB3 ports, and gain back those single-use ports for those who use them... or accept that TB3 means nobody is stuck a "niche" port again. You want HDMI? Great you just need a cable (which you'd need anyway). You want DisplayPort? Guess what? You just need a cable. You want dual DP or HDMI? No worries, you can use two ports with simple cables, or get a dual-port adapter and run them from one port. You want 10GbE? Not a worry. You want a card reader or a Firewire port, or eSATA or even ****ing VGA!? No problem.

Your entire argument says "**** the rest of you who never use SD cards or HDMI, you should lose flexibility so I don't have to buy a $7 cable".

I'll hedge my bets that a MacBook with 2 TB 3 and a variety of other ports would have been a lot more favoured than the current iteration.

By you? That's obvious. In 1999 most people said the iMac should have included a floppy drive. When the Retina MacBook
Pros were released, people complained that the optical drive and ethernet port had been removed.

Not just for me, but for the vast majority of users.

A single $30 accessory would return more functionality than you're complaining has been removed, for those who need it.

But just buying the accessory and getting on with life doesn't satisfy that inherent need some people have to complain about everything, does it?

You have been brainwashed by the words "legacy".

I didn't introduce the term 'legacy port', I used it to paraphrase someone else. I prefer the term "single use ports" because that's what they are - regardless of age.

Emphasis mine:

But who is going to use 4 (four!) TB3 ports at the same time? 2 would be more then enough, one USB-a, and one more 'legacy' port. That would be ideal.

the stripping of all other ports that are in common use by the vast majority of people on a daily basis

Great and what about the people who have zero use for HDMI or SD cards or even USB type-A? They just get stuck with what happens to align with your personal ideal of ports?

I've yet to hear from any of you how a compact flash or Memory Stick works in an SD card slot, or how DisplayPort works on a HDMI port?

You can bang on about wanting your specific ports all you want, but at least have the ****ing decency to admit that you want very-specific ports that have no potential for alternative use.

with lack of port diversity being one of the factors

Great, you found a machine that has the specific mix of ports you need, and nothing you don't?

Most people end up with up to half a dozen ports they will never use, and a couple they will wish they had more of.

As you said technology sites

I'm talking about places to buy USB-C/TB3 devices, because you said:

I've yet to see USB C utilised natively anywhere

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not centres of business, engineering design & manufacturing facilities, maintenance facilities.

All I can guess you're talking about, is specialised/custom hardware that's driven/controlled by a USB interface - in which case, you don't need it to "utilise USB-C natively". But hey where's the fun in accepting that a port that can do practically anything might need a different $7 cable to work with your existing hardware when you can just piss and moan about it for years after the fact, demanding that nobody could possibly need new ports you yourself don't need, and that any changes which increase the flexibility of a computer's ports is just too much to bare.

 

[Ma2k5]

Great, now tell me what combination of ports the majority need? Besides USB-A or the current TB3/USB-C I will guarantee any choice you make will be useless to more people than it's useful to.

Your starting point shows your flaw. The starting point should be the 2015 MBP and how on God's earth they came to their much critiqued decisions

Your sig says you have a 2018 13" - how do you possibly use HDMI without a physical HDMI port?

I am painfully aware my 2018 13" doesn't have a port, which was explained later in the post. We use HDMI ports everyday, I just can't use it on my MBP 13" without a dongle (and generally use it instead on my X1 Carbon as a result).

I'm actually of the opinion that TB3 is the most versatile port in computer history, and that providing as many as possible gives the user a ridiculously large number of possible combinations of accessories they can connect.

We know it is versatile, it is just not convenient to have only TB3 at present.

Oh, oh. Look, a USB-C to HDMI + Card Reader + 2x USB3.0 Type-A.. for THIRTY DOLLARS!? Your entire "complaint" is solved by a single $30 adapter, which has as many USB-A ports, and more choice in card format, as any 15" or 13" Mac laptop has had since the Intels at least, and I'd guess probably any ever.

A problem I never had before - and like the vast majority of users, haven't gained anything out of the new implementation. I also feel magsafe was a great loss, but that is another discussion.

By you? That's obvious. In 1999 most people said the iMac should have included a floppy drive. When the Retina MacBook
Pros were released, people complained that the optical drive and ethernet port had been removed.

There was a time when both floppy disks and CD-ROM's were heavily used and it wasn't (imo) a good choice by Apple at the time to remove it. The original Air comes to mind, which removed the CD drive in a time where using CD's were very common place at both home and office. Just because it is now rarely used, doesn't automatically make Apple's decision correct. TB3 (or who knows now, it could be a completely different port) might become the norm one day, but for sure by that time I'll be on another laptop upgrade.

Nothing you said is new, people back in 2016 had this vision that everything will move to either TB3 or some USB Type-C port, it hasn't. It won't for a while. Apple should have delivered a combination of both for now - and in the future perhaps there is a place for 4x TB3.

 

[c0ppo]

@Stephen.R

I give up. Yours superior logic wins. Congrats.

 

[Stephen.R]

The starting point should be the 2015 MBP

Why, exactly? If you don’t have a stronger argument than “well the old one has it” to justify ports you’re effectively just arguing against change - any change - and not for specific ports.

I just can't use it on my MBP 13" without a dongle

Or a suitable cable. But hey sure, it "requires" a dongle.

it is just not convenient to have only TB3 at present

For your specific purposes. I'm still waiting for someone to admit that the people who have no use for HDMI or SD cards would get a ****** deal with this supposed "improvement" of single-use ports.

A problem I never had before

You miss USB-A ports so much, that just two of them is more than you ever needed? Right ok.

There was a time when both floppy disks and CD-ROM's were heavily used and it wasn't (imo) a good choice by Apple at the time to remove it.

Plenty of desktop PCs still include floppy drives and optical drives, and ****ing PS2 ports of all things. Was Apple wrong to move to all-USB 20 years ago, or should we all have a dozen single-use ports on every computer, and if you happen to have two of one thing you just have to hope it has daisy chaining built in?

Just because it is now rarely used, doesn't automatically make Apple's decision correct.

I mean.. it kinda does. They correctly predicted the end of optical drive use. If you're the first do remove something, there's always gonna be someone saying you're being too hasty.

The irony of course is that you want to remove multi-purpose ports that could support any number of connections Apple has dropped dedicated connectors for (Ethernet, Thunderbolt 1 & 2, Firewire 400 and 800, DVI, DisplayPort, USB-A) in favour of... HDMI, which can do DVI (but it needs a ****ing dongle so forget that idea right?), and USB.. which can't do most of the above, and can only do pedestrian Ethernet... So again - you want single use ports, but only the specific ones you happen to like.

Nothing you said is new, people back in 2016 had this vision that everything will move to either TB3 or some USB Type-C port, it hasn't.

I literally never said "everything will move to either TB3 or USB Type-C". I said you can connect practically anything, because it's a versatile port.

Apple should have delivered a combination of both for now

They did that for years with the TB1 and TB2 MacBook Pros. Guess which ports age the quickest. Would it be the USB ports that are limited to 480Mbps? Or the FireWire ports? Or is it the HDMI port that's limited to 30Hz?

Anyone who uses their laptop for more than 24 months will be glad Apple ****ing didn't "compromise", when they can still connect modern devices in 5 years time. I have a 2011 MBP, literally the only thing the USB ports are useful for now is a printer and scanner, if it weren't for the TB1 port and a USB3+eSATA dock, it would be unusable even as a media server today.

I give up. Yours superior logic wins. Congrats.

Great, good to hear.

 

[ascender]

But its all subjective rather than objective which is the issue with discussing these things. So it is all just opinions.

Over the course of a typical day's work I'll use an external hard drive, a display (usb-c or HDMI connected) a card reader and sometimes an Ethernet connection. I've got usb-c versions of all of those that I've bought over the last couple of years and I quite like being able to plug those in to any side of the laptop and its no hassle to just plug them in when I need them.

I guess old habits die hard, but as someone who's worked in technology all my life, I've always got a bag of cables, adapters and dongles for when I'm anywhere but my home location and I really don't find it a hassle to have them with me. Part of that attitude is because I am walking around with a laptop so I'm not expecting to have every port available wherever I am.

I'm also sure that part of that attitude is because I've been through port transitions in the past and in the scheme of things, the usb-c one has been a minor blip - there's so many cheap options out there for pretty much anything you want to connect. I remember how painfully slow and expensive the initial move to usb-a was all those years ago.

 

[Ma2k5]

Why, exactly? If you don’t have a stronger argument than “well the old one has it” to justify ports you’re effectively just arguing against change - any change - and not for specific ports.

I would gladly have accepted a change (i.e. removal) of ports where that port is no longer used in large volumes, let's say some VGA port. But removal of ports which today are still used regularly let alone 2016 is questionable.

Or a suitable cable. But hey sure, it "requires" a dongle.

So Apple just hoped all companies will update their cables for the MBP? Or are you suggesting I should now start supplying cables I previously did not have to?

For your specific purposes. I'm still waiting for someone to admit that the people who have no use for HDMI or SD cards would get a ****** deal with this supposed "improvement" of single-use ports.

No they wouldn't, because they would still have 2 TB3 ports. Again you are directing it to my specific purposes, when I am looking at the trend of use among hundreds of people.

You miss USB-A ports so much, that just two of them is more than you ever needed? Right ok.

Even one would do.

Plenty of desktop PCs still include floppy drives and optical drives, and ****ing PS2 ports of all things. Was Apple wrong to move to all-USB 20 years ago, or should we all have a dozen single-use ports on every computer, and if you happen to have two of one thing you just have to hope it has daisy chaining built in?

Plenty of PC's do not include floppy drives or optical in most places of work and that has been the case for years, sure they probably exist somewhere but we should work with the overall trend. Even if they did, it wouldn't affect me negatively so not sure what the whole point is.

I mean.. it kinda does. They correctly predicted the end of optical drive use. If you're the first do remove something, there's always gonna be someone saying you're being too hasty.

Well, the evidence suggests it is hasty. I mean surely you must realise that very few people are complaining about the lack of VGA or ethernet port (they do exist) - but quite a few people are miffed about some of the other ports.

The irony of course is that you want to remove multi-purpose ports that could support any number of connections Apple has dropped dedicated connectors for (Ethernet, Thunderbolt 1 & 2, Firewire 400 and 800, DVI, DisplayPort, USB-A) in favour of... HDMI, which can do DVI (but it needs a ****ing dongle so forget that idea right?), and USB.. which can't do most of the above, and can only do pedestrian Ethernet... So again - you want single use ports, but only the specific ones you happen to like.

Not what I like, what most people are used to, what most people would still appreciate today (and definitely in 2016). You keep piping about the theoretical benefit of this versatile port.

I think we are going around in circles now. We will just have to agree to disagree.

 

[Stephen.R]

We will just have to agree to disagree.

I don’t agree to that.

 

[danwells]

I really like the USB-C ports (I have a very convenient desktop dock, and fast portable drives are nice on the go). USB-C is fast enough for portable SSDs, which USB-A isn't always - depends on the SSD, and drives are far more available (and cheaper) than TB2 portables ever were...

I would like to have seen two specific legacy ports retained... One is a single USB-A port - the critical use is memory sticks (otherwise known as flash drives, otherwise known as memory keys, otherwise known as pocket drives, otherwise known as USBs (yes, really)). I have a double-ended (USB-A and USB-C) one that's great, which solves the problem for transferring files when I need to hand someone a file that's too big for e-mail or Dropbox (or where the Wi-Fi is too lousy). On the other hand, my double-ender is just expensive enough that I want it back - I wouldn't casually hand it in at a FedEx store or Staples and think "I hope it comes back with the print job". Disposable memory sticks are still USB-A only. I taught photography for a long time, and student projects tended to come in on freebie memory sticks, especially when the university's file transfer website was acting up. It can be useful to be able to read those without thinking about it or using a dongle... I have plenty of A to C cables attached to everything I own, but reading memory sticks on the go would be more convenient if I had the port that worked with what people are likely to hand me.

The other useful port would be HDMI. Again, I have my monitors connected to a Thunderbolt 3 dock, which works fine, and a USB-C to HDMI cable lives in my projector case (again fine). The case where HDMI is useful is for other people's projectors and TVs. Most classrooms, conference rooms, etc. have a built-in projector, and there's an HDMI cable that runs through the wall and ceiling to reach it. Sometimes you don't want to use it anyway (it might be 800x600 resolution :-( ), but if it's useful, it's more convenient to have the HDMI port right there, instead of a loseable, breakable dongle.

 

[pshufd]

That most high-end Windows laptops still have USB-A ports is an indication that they are requested and useful.

 

[semihat]

Does anyone have any guesses about what new features this year's MBP might introduce?

 

[Think creative]

they need to release the new 16 Inch machines with new keyboards. Fingers crossed they will be like the magic keyboards (or just actually the magic keyboards). Low travel, but actually feel okay to type on. Sure at home I'll use a mechanical keyboard when I can, but if i'm at a coffee shop or on the road i don't mind the magic keyboard. I'm okay with no other ports. I can live with that. Laptops will always be compromised computers compared to desktops, and that's why in my office I have a desktop. The new machines minus the keyboard are great machines as far as I'm concerned, but that is such a glaring flaw for me (and since i'm a publisher i type a lot more than most on these boards) i have to wait. And then this fall (or hopefully no later than next spring) hopefully they release 14 inch new pros. I can't wait for them to finally change the form factor just a little bit. Why? Because then I still have to wait for the second update of those new machines, because there's no way i'm getting a gen 1 of a new design. So hurry up and create new machines, because then I still have to wait 12-16 months till I get the machine I finally want

 

[afir93]

Not at all - as I said, in numerous threads, I think the MBP's (and Mac mini, iMacs etc) should have at least 6 TB3 ports - four isn't enough. I'm also disappointed at how they've marketed the 2018 Mini's graphics capabilities, and I found the 2018 MBP's keyboard hard to adjust to (compared to both an older MBP and to the Apple "Magic" Keyboard).

But hey don't let that stop you from rolling out the typical "someone doesn't agree that this new thing is terrible so they're clearly just an apologist/iSheep/Fanboy/<whatever idiotic phrase you've all decided to use this month>".

That is unfortunately a rather common get-out-of-argument-free-card you will find here on MacRumors (and, to be fair, many other internet forums). Someone dares to like that thing Apple does that you hate? Just call him a fanboy/apologist/iSheep/..., that surely invalidates any good arguments they bring forward. Someone dislikes this thing you adore? Then, obviously, they are just a hater or troll and any good reasons they bring forward are automatically invalid.

I too have my gripes with the current MBP generation such as the keyboard, but I for example do like the Touch Bar, a feature that a lot of people here on MacRumors despise. And while I've had some good discussions about it here on MacRumors with very valid reasons for and against it, there were unfortunately some people that like to resort to "well if you dare to have a more positive opinion than me about such an obviously bad piece of technology like the Touch Bar, then you surely will try to excuse everything Apple does and there's no point in arguing"-type of comments when they can't think of better counter-arguments. For most of us this isn't the case, I think most of us here are good people to have great discussions with (it's definitely better than on some other internet discussion forums I've seen in my time), but I've seen my fair share of these type of comments on MacRumors.

I think it's why so many people feel the need to start their posts with something along the lines of "I really like thing x, but..." or "I agree with some of the complaints about thing y, but...", to prevent these type of "you're just hating/rambling" or "you are a fanboy and will eat up everything they do" type of responses; to make it clear that they are not unilaterally happy or unhappy with whatever they are talking about, because otherwise, some people will try to hold it against them.

 

[Queen6]

Does anyone have any guesses about what new features this year's MBP might introduce?

Reliability...

Q-6

 

[xxray]

So when do we all think we will see a new model? WWDC? October?

 

[ascender]

That most high-end Windows laptops still have USB-A ports is an indication that they are requested and useful.

Is it though? As others have said, a large percentage of people will continue to use something if its there, or at the least not make a fuss about it being there. Its only when you remove something that you hear people shout about it.

Usb-c would appear to be the future and there's loads of inexpensive cables and adapters, so at least for USB ports, why not try and get rid of type-a ones now? Assuming there's not a soon-to-be released and not backwards compatible revision coming up, surely the industry should be making the move to make c the new standard?

 

[ugru]

https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...h-third-generation-macbook-keyboards.2175220/

 

[gadgetfreaky]

So when do we all think we will see a new model? WWDC? October?

Well we are getting new Intel chips suitbale for MBP in the next few weeks so I'd get some sort of update in May.

the big question is when do we get the new 16.5 inch MBP- I'm hoping for May but wouldn't be surprised it's later.

 

[Glockworkorange]

Came here to see if people were speculating about the 2019 and if there is going to be a re-design. Jumped to the last page for the most recent discussion. Lot of hate here!

 

[Basic75]

So when do we all think we will see a new model? WWDC? October?

Assuming they'll wait for Ice Lake I wouldn't expect it before October.

 

[Stephen.R]

Assuming they'll wait for Ice Lake

I mean, they're as likely to wait for Ice Bear [1]. I don't know that Intels releases have particularly mattered much to Apple's portable line (i.e. they seem to not be concerned about using a soon-to-be-'outdated' CPU generation)

1:

 

[WHM]

But its all subjective rather than objective which is the issue with discussing these things. So it is all just opinions.

Over the course of a typical day's work I'll use an external hard drive, a display (usb-c or HDMI connected) a card reader and sometimes an Ethernet connection. I've got usb-c versions of all of those that I've bought over the last couple of years and I quite like being able to plug those in to any side of the laptop and its no hassle to just plug them in when I need them.

I guess old habits die hard, but as someone who's worked in technology all my life, I've always got a bag of cables, adapters and dongles for when I'm anywhere but my home location and I really don't find it a hassle to have them with me. Part of that attitude is because I am walking around with a laptop so I'm not expecting to have every port available wherever I am.

I'm also sure that part of that attitude is because I've been through port transitions in the past and in the scheme of things, the usb-c one has been a minor blip - there's so many cheap options out there for pretty much anything you want to connect. I remember how painfully slow and expensive the initial move to usb-a was all those years ago.

Same here I have no proble with anyting I need using the 4 USB-3 ports