Apple's goal is to sell as many products and make as much money as they can. It's you people that are so wrapped up in this "Apple image" elitist BS.
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Wal-Mart to Carry iPhone 4 at June 24th Launch
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Apple's goal is to sell as many products and make as much money as they can. It's you people that are so wrapped up in this "Apple image" elitist BS.
1) Grow up
2) Go AT&T or get a Driod or Evo and then suck it up
3) ****
I can't stand the complaining any more. It's gotten pointless. No matter what people like you decide;
A) You'll get the iPhone and be unhappy with the network
B) You'll get another phone on your favorite network and be unhappy with the handset.
You'll evidently always be upset for some stupid reason. Deal.
Nobody forces anyone to work at Wal-Mart. I don't think they make any less than anyone working at McDonalds or any other minimum wage job. Based on my experiences at Wal-Mart, employees ARE paid according to their skill and competence. Perhaps writing to lawmakers encouraging higher minimum wages would be more appropriate, though I disagree, but your free to do and think as you please.
I don't see any problem with Apple more widely distributing their products. They want to reach a larger mass of people, though I'm not sure how many people make such purchases at a Wal-Mart
If you're not going to be a hypocrite then you should not buy anything from anyone that pays below a living wage and don't just single out Wal Mart because they are the whipping boy of so many ideologues.
Those who say "But Walmart is sooo low-class!"
Now you know why some otherwise indifferent people would be instantly turned-off by the overall elistist mentality of Apple products' users.
I mean, wow. You don't seem to mind the iPod sales that account from Walmart, yet when it comes to the iPhones, you turn your nose up in disgust.
I'm on board Apple products, but I find the snobbery and double-standard of some (not all, but some) Apple users to be down right sickening.
Now you know why some otherwise indifferent people would be instantly turned-off by the overall elistist mentality of Apple products' users.
I mean, wow. You don't seem to mind the iPod sales that account from Walmart, yet when it comes to the iPhones, you turn your nose up in disgust.
I'm on board Apple products, but I find the snobbery and double-standard of some (not all, but some) Apple users to be down right sickening.
I thought I remember reading the majority of Wal-Mart employees are Part Time. Now I am unsure if this is 100% correct. But if that is the case then this cuts down on benefit payouts, vacations, and other related things to Full Time employees. I know a lot of Wal-Marts products when it comes to clothes are consignment.
Yes.
Yes.
I love how everyone says they don't/hate shopping at Walmart, yet they sell $400 billion in stuff a year.
Look at how much of the population is here on the forums as well. You think the typical Wal-Mart customer spends time on Mac Forums?
My issue with this goes beyond Wal Mart simply being low class, it's with Wal Mart as an entity.
I feel that this helps Wal Mart in a way that Apple doesn't really need to be doing.
Wal Mart has eroded businesses that provided better wages and benefits with wages and benefits that don't even meet living wages in most locations.
As a Buddhist, Steve is supposed to follow a slightly different set of rules when it comes to how a person treats others. I don't know he reconciles some of the business decisions that he makes.
Apple doesn't need Wal Mart, Apple doesn't need to help bring customers into their stores to reward Wal Mart's business practices.
Everything could be done through Apple Stores, AT&T stores, or the internet. Give some business to companies that follow a more moral and ethical approach to business, like Costco.
Costco is almost the opposite of Wal Mart in that it's CEO is relatively underpaid, and compared to Wal Mart, Costco's employees are overpaid.
SJ has built himself a position of great influence and should start using that to effect more positive change.
I feel that this helps Wal Mart in a way that Apple doesn't really need to be doing.
Wal Mart has eroded businesses that provided better wages and benefits with wages and benefits that don't even meet living wages in most locations.
As a Buddhist, Steve is supposed to follow a slightly different set of rules when it comes to how a person treats others. I don't know he reconciles some of the business decisions that he makes.
Apple doesn't need Wal Mart, Apple doesn't need to help bring customers into their stores to reward Wal Mart's business practices.
Everything could be done through Apple Stores, AT&T stores, or the internet. Give some business to companies that follow a more moral and ethical approach to business, like Costco.
Costco is almost the opposite of Wal Mart in that it's CEO is relatively underpaid, and compared to Wal Mart, Costco's employees are overpaid.
SJ has built himself a position of great influence and should start using that to effect more positive change.
Thank you! You absoultely said it best. If you start excluding people who don't make $XX,XXX.XX/year, or live in a "poor" area (no Apple products for Brooklyn residents, yes to Manhattan residents; Compton no, Malibu yes), you escalate to a dangerous form hierarchy. I know they say "whenever anyone mentions Nazis, the thread is officially dead", but, c'mon!
Gee, you're happy that iPads sell like hotcakes, but if you found out it was some minimum wage worker who saved for months to buy one, you'd say they aren't worthy of owning it?
I can agree with Apple wanting to put their products into as many hands as possible. I am curious to know if their is any data out there that shows exactly how many iPhones Wal-Mart has sold for Apple.
I'm confused by the Walmart hatred in this thread. You've got those complaining about unfair wages for the employees and then those complaining that the staff is incompetent. Hahaha.
As for the Walmart movie someone mentioned, get indoctrinated much?
Put it in perspective if you can zoom out this far, the "evil" Walmart has fed, clothed, and sheltered more people in this world than you can even imagine. Draw a diagram to help out if you know what that means.
That being said, it seems kinda weird to mosey on up to a Walmart to buy an iPad. Hahaha.
And wasn't there some study not too long ago that said the lower income families in the US made up the largest iPhone ownership? Kinda off and on topic.
As for the Walmart movie someone mentioned, get indoctrinated much?
Put it in perspective if you can zoom out this far, the "evil" Walmart has fed, clothed, and sheltered more people in this world than you can even imagine. Draw a diagram to help out if you know what that means.
That being said, it seems kinda weird to mosey on up to a Walmart to buy an iPad. Hahaha.
And wasn't there some study not too long ago that said the lower income families in the US made up the largest iPhone ownership? Kinda off and on topic.
You need to think outside of your cushy life and think about others. There are many poor/underpaid people in this country. It's just because they perform a job that requires very little education and responsibility. Therefore, they don't get paid much. It's a fact of life. Now, where do you expect these people to buy goods? Mom and Pop stores? Impossible, because the prices of the goods sold at these stores are now low enough for the near-impoverished. Furthermore, how many jobs do these Mom and Pop stores generate. Usually very few because most decently paid positions go to family members and friends. Wal-Mart actually employs 10s of thousands (probably even more) people in the country.
Costco is fine, except that it's not in many cities, only takes American Express, and you have to pay $50 for the privilege of shopping there. So I don't see a lot of benefit to Apple selling the iPhone there.
I'm not the biggest fan of Wal-Mart, but I don't think that they are particularly evil, either. In any event, I don't see many people complaining about how Kroger, Safeway, Albertson's, etc. killed off the corner grocery store; what WM has done isn't any worse.
Wow, spoken like a total conceited arrogant jerk w/ quite obvious hostility issues, who obviously lives in an AT&T sweetspot area of the US. Aw, you're okay, so to heck w/ the rest of us, eh? My iMac doesn't have any yellow tinting and/or cracked lower-left screen, so no problem actually exists.
Telling a person to "****"? Yeah, buddy, consider your post flagged.
That is exactly what I am doing, how do you think better lives are created for other people?
Economics is the branch of social science that deals with the production and distribution and consumption of goods and services and their management.
Replacing good wages and benefits with lower prices and wages that barely provide a living wage is not helping people in the long run.
Initially, you may get the impression that lowering prices is a great thing. It's if you can maintain or improve wages and benefits. If you achieve improvements in costs by simply finding new ways to pay people less and collect more for yourself, you are hurting the economy in the long run.
You are removing disposable income from those who already have the least amount of disposable income to spare.
You need to re-think how a company like Wal Mart affects an economy.