Please God, don't ever do that. From the rosetta days to intel was hard enough. Intel is here to stay.
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Count up the threads posted negatively and compare to your positive views. Unanimous is correct.
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Please God, don't ever do that. From the rosetta days to intel was hard enough. Intel is here to stay.
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Count up the threads posted negatively and compare to your positive views. Unanimous is correct.
Yeah, that's not what unanimous means. Just not how reality works.
Also, whether you realize it or not, there were long threads complaining about the release of the iPod back in the day right in these very forums with people pontificating how Apple had no clue what it was doing that it was all doomed and anything and everything else that could be thrown in there...we surely see how meaningful all those complaints and predictions were.
You just mentioned all they did not to embarrass themselves. The rest was simply embarrassing.
The Apple Music part specifically really, really was a flop... y'all. yeah. whoa!
Even with all the kids in the room, the applaus only came when there were definitely asking for it...
The above mentioned features are nice, but not WWDC keynote - worthy. Leave that for the new iPhone 7 with iOS 10 intro.
Really? Perhaps the rest of the 4 day event is for devs but not this presentation. It's media and bloggers for the most part. This is Apple's presentation or attempt to tell the media what to report.
For those crying about hardware, Apple saves that for the fall season for the most part.
That's the wit of sarcasm
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If the room was not filled with Apple employees, I suspect the applause would have been embarrassingly quite. There we a few times the crowd got involved, but most was lead by the in house employees. I remember the biggest applause being for the last video featuring devs.
Apple is a hardware + software company.
Sadly, many of their products are way out of date (Thunderbolt display) and their Macbook Pros are stale compared to the competition.
Just an FYI Skylake has been out for almost a year.
What, in your own unbiased opinion, is Apple's excuse for not releasing updated laptops today?
You can't blame it on Intel anymore because the processors have been available for ages.
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I think the main disappointment is from the lack of hardware, lol. Which was expected.
Glad for the 7 minute version. I started watching the Keynote and after the hundredth "I've never been so excited", and "this is really magical" in the first 10 minutes, I was nauseated and turned it off. This is at least the third embarrassing keynote in a row.
I think there's a tendency to look back at the second era of Steve Jobs through rose colored glasses, but it *was* an amazing run... and unfortunately it's clearly over now. Apple will continue to make gazillions of dollars for the foreseeable future, but they're really losing what made them special.
I think there's a tendency to look back at the second era of Steve Jobs through rose colored glasses, but it *was* an amazing run... and unfortunately it's clearly over now. Apple will continue to make gazillions of dollars for the foreseeable future, but they're really losing what made them special.
Most booring WWDC ever? Nothing to wait for at all, really disappointing
It's more along the lines of what's mentioned at https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/ios-expectations.1977389/ the anything else.
I have to say this event has excited me the most, compared to some of the last ones if I'm honest.
A couple good things in your list, but even most of that is gimmick and/or depends on Apple's buggy and not-thought-through cloud services. You think I'm going to trust Apple to 'clean' my Mac of documents and put them in their cloud? Only a fool would do that!
Emojis and music streaming? Sheesh!
No, maybe something of significance to developers. Other than the mention of opening up certain apps, there wasn't much else. Maybe some new hardware. But, spending hours showing goof-off stuff isn't really what I expected, no.
But, they didn't really show much of significance to developers... and showed a whole lot of stuff of significance to... who?
There have been lots of updates since they've released anything in some of their product lines. What Intel is up against is something called physics. It's going to be mostly lower power and more cores from here on out.
I think the blame is that Apple just doesn't give much of a rip about the Mac anymore... too small pie slice.
Maybe some day, but just give me a 12 core Intel CPU and I'll be happy... or incorporate some of the latest stuff into the lineup at a regular interval. How about an Apple eGPU box so people could quit complaining about Apple and GPU? How about a small laptop with usable GPU/CPU and a good screen? How about a headless non-Pro Mac that's good again? None of that is Intel's issue.
But, what you might see is them ditching Intel and Mac, and then you'll be stuck with your iPad Pro and Apple's lovely cloud and lack of a file system. Fun, huh?
But, those were usually clueless 'industry experts' or Windows fanboys... not 30-year Apple evangelists. If you can't see the difference between the Apple that released the iPod and today's Apple, I think you need to open your eyes a bit.
It's going to take a while now, as they are a massive company with a lot of momentum. But, you can write it in the book if you like and hold me to it... if Apple keeps down the current path, yes, this time they are doomed. Why? Because what made the platform so successful was the focus on UX. Apple is now focused on profit margins. Apple used to really strive to build great products, now it's just a marketing slogan. That won't last forever.
Well, yes, THAT is quite disappointing. But, what's even more disappointing is that, apparently, big news to Apple's new target market is auto-emojis and text bubbles with effects.... and they choose a developer's conference to spend WAY too much time showing off such stupidity... AND some of that is what got big cheers out of 'DEVELOPERS'! (Kind of make one start to get serious about that survival cabin out in the mountains somewhere, far, far away.)
That's the point, those were from those who were no more or less of "evangelists" as many threads in the archives would show. Clearly the comparison wasn't about what was released or what Apple is like now vs. then, but about people's reactions and what they mean (or basically don't mean).
"pretend"?? Now it the fault of those people that they want some new hardware or improvements that actually matter? Maybe Apple could "pretend" to care about them?
There are expectations based on reality and then there are that aren't really. Even that aside, whether or not something someone wanted was covered or not, doesn't mean that there wasn't anything else there. Logic doesn't quite work that way.
Or if you want s more recent happening, the iPad. Or the Apple Watch. Hell, even the way every single iphone looks when leaked lol.
There has always been a crazy list of 'wishes' that don't come true. There have always been people who couldn't see the wisdom in the things Apple was doing. There have always been traditional 'industry experts' who wanted Apple to be more like every other tech company, etc.
I'm talking about a shift from UX being the driver... to profit margins and marketing gimmicks, and hoping that won't have a negative impact. And, no, I've been around the forums for a long, long time and I don't remember Apple evangelists thinking Apple was doomed.
I was toying with words - no need to teach me logic ;-)
But, you're right, "expectations" of new hardware were foolish and not "based on reality". Haha!
The thing is this: Yes, I am very disappointed. But at this point I'm approaching acceptance; I'll find a way forward. Whether it's osx86 on a Dell XPS or just back to a dual-boot Windows/Linux laptop. It will be all right.
Exactly! But, I get miffed when people can't see how Apple has changed and what the implications might be. It's becoming obvious, we long-term Mac users just aren't the target market any longer. We're eventually going to have to bend to Apple's new plan for us to all use mobile devices or look elsewhere. That's not a pretty picture right now.
BUT, even assuming Apple is shifting from being a desktop/laptop maker to a mobile and car maker, there is still the problem of fundamental values and what drives what. Apple got to where they are today by making excellent products with a top-notch UX. That was their focus. They did that, and success followed.
Now, they've got success and seem to have forgotten how they got there. They've shifted to profit margins and marketing tactics being the driver, with UX being quite secondary, if not just part of the marketing slogan. THAT isn't going to end well, no matter where the industry goes or what products they make.
It's like the most fundamental shift a company could possibly make. And, it seems there are a lot of people who can't recognize what has happened.
Look, when Jobs died and people were saying... now it's over for Apple, I was one of the loudest people here saying that's crazy. As brilliant as Jobs was, he certainly wasn't coming up with everything. Certainly, Apple could continue on w/o Jobs and do really well... especially with all their success and cash-flow. BUT, what I hadn't anticipated, is that Apple's new leadership didn't really understand what made Apple special.
We're basically back to the Apple of the 90s, just with a LOT more cash in the bank, and at the moment, popularity.
Well, with the Apple Watch the doomsayers were kind of right ;-) What an irrelevant thing, at least in its current incarnation.
For people who run a business using Mac hardware nothing did happen. Our employees don't have iPads, nor do they log in to the company machines using their iCloud accounts, nor do I want them going home and finding all the company documents on their desktops.
Wish I waited for this summary. Instead I lost 2 hours of my life I will not get back.
Saying that, it was arguably not worth the full 7 minutes either.
Saying that, it was arguably not worth the full 7 minutes either.
For you perhaps. Assuming you haven't actually tried one.
I bought mine figuring I'd return it, but still needed to see for myself first hand, rather than rely on internet buh-blah.
Here it is almost a year later after being on my wrist every day, usually at least 12 hours a day. After a week of use there was no way I was going to send it back. As a point of reference, Apple has sold more than twice as many Watches than first generation iPhones during their first year of being available.
WatchOS 3.0 introduced today is a substantial update.