Weak iPhone 7 Demand Predictions Continue With 'Conservative' Chip Orders

[konqueror4u]

Looks like apple is a bit lazy now. No new hardware announcements till date this year is very lazy approach from hardware company like Apple. The design of Iphone 7 and rumored designs of Macbook pro(if true) illustrates the lack of innovation at apple. I think this has happened few years ago with Nokia. Hope apple wakes up.

 

[delegagtor]

I agree that changes to contract terms and lack of subsidizing is a huge factor. But I'm in the category of people who can still get a subsidized phone (due to my corporate plan) but who hasn't bothered upgrading in 3 years because I don't want to re-invest in yet another battery case when the advances in the hardware are so minimal. Add in a step backward like removing the headphone jack and it'll be at least another year before I upgrade.

 

[Datalinks]

They don't care...they are building a spaceship..

 

[LIVEFRMNYC]

iPhone 7 will be dedicated to all those who believe in rumors.

I guess it's directed at Apple.

 

[doelcm82]

When the 6 design came out. I went out and bought it as reflex. Got to the parking lot played with it a little, unimpressed with it. Cheap looking. Old fashioned with huge bezels all around and walked back in the store and returned it. My 5s is more impressive and does everything the 6 series does minus Apple Pay.
It's not peak smartphone, it's peak lazy and frightened executives that didn't dare change the phone other than just Xerox it larger, bezels and all. There is no one with the vision or passion of a SJ there anymore .

Interesting outlier anecdote. The iPhone 6 was a huge seller, and well-reviewed. Listening to you would have been a terrible mistake for Apple.

 

[ABC5S]

Nothing really great this time around. Hope Apple Tanks and gets rid of Tim Cook. Find someone who cares about hardware instead of Space Ships building, Eco stuff, making useless speeches saying it's Special, Everyone will want one crap, not to mention spending too much time on Emoji crap, etc.

 

[doelcm82]

I don't think Apple will have a "mega upgrade cycle" in 2017. Their business practice so far has been to add just enough extra each year to keep sales growing. They've never done a mega upgrade before because how would you follow it the next year? I think Cook is content to see sales level off and remain constant or fall slightly for the next few years. It would still generate significant profits each year.

Apple doesn't do these things, except when they do. Apple doesn't get into new markets, like the phone market. The iPhone itself is just a pie in the sky daydream.

We're currently in the "S" cycle of Apple's iPhone 6. In September, Apple will announce a totally new design. That's what they always do (except when they don't).

I don't know what Apple will announce in September, let alone what they will do next year. Maybe the 2017 iPhone will be a minor change, like the Photos app was to Aperture and iPhoto. But any truism about Apple seems to be only true until it isn't.

 

[Mr. Dee]

People are just being more practical. The iPhone 6 (2014) and iPhone 6s (2015) cycles have pretty much saturated the market. Whoever wanted to upgrade probably have already.

 

[doelcm82]

Nothing really great this time around. Hope Apple Tanks and gets rid of Tim Cook. Find someone who cares about hardware instead of Space Ships building, Eco stuff, making useless speeches saying it's Special, Everyone will want one crap, not to mention spending too much time on Emoji crap, etc.

If Steve Jobs were to come back, he'd halt construction on the Spaceship immediately and put all those workers to work on building the next Mac Mini.

 

[rp2011]

Interesting outlier anecdote. The iPhone 6 was a huge seller, and well-reviewed. Listening to you would have been a terrible mistake for Apple.

Ohh yeah it's doing great!!
The pent up demand at the beginning was obvious as it was a long overdue change. But yeah it's flying off the shelves and all metrics indicated the same for the 6E.
Living in a bubble is comforting isn't it?

 

[BeamWalker]

Apple could innovate by adding a millimeter or two, fit a better camera module with a flush lens design and much improved battery power including wireless charging. Just sayin'.

 

[mtbgtr]

Apple doesn't do these things, except when they do. Apple doesn't get into new markets, like the phone market. The iPhone itself is just a pie in the sky daydream.

We're currently in the "S" cycle of Apple's iPhone 6. In September, Apple will announce a totally new design. That's what they always do (except when they don't).

I don't know what Apple will announce in September, let alone what they will do next year. Maybe the 2017 iPhone will be a minor change, like the Photos app was to Aperture and iPhoto. But any truism about Apple seems to be only true until it isn't.

Aperture to Photos you consider a minor change? You must not be a photographer. Aperture wasn't gutted like iPhoto it was removed completely.

 

[MH01]

Oh man, only Samsung phone I've ever been interesting in. My inner geek is drooling.

Ditto. I was like meh....s7.... Yeah cool but I got an iPhone 6s.... Than I saw the batman edition, read the iPhone 7 rumours and the inner geek took over. Love my batman.....and all black !!!!
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lets face it until more features are out who knows what else is added. Not everything will be leaked.

Very true. Though was there anything unexpected in the 6S? I thought the rumours covered everything.

 

[FightTheFuture]

None of this means "peak Apple" has passed – it only means that the market has matured and every company has to shift the way they do things.

Get out of here with your logic! We want new frivolous designs with top-of-the-line specs!

 

[mtbgtr]

Wide Color Capture is the iPhone 7's key new feature ...

Starting in mid-September, and if using an appropriate Apple mobile device, photos captured with "wide-gamut" reds, oranges, yellows, yellow-greens, as well as red-violets, will significantly standout !

So much so, that we (boldly) predict that many Advertisers, and especially those in the female swimsuit, active wear, & lingerie industries, will immediately begin to focus on those colors soon-after Apple's annual September iPhone announcement, when this knowledge starts to become mainstream.

We believe Wide Color Capture (WCC) will be supported only on the iPhone 7 and 7s, as well as on the existing 9.7" iPad Pro.

We also believe Wide Color Display (WCD) support will be limited to those three mobile devices, plus the 21.5" 4K iMac, the 27" 5K iMac, and the yet to be announced stand-alone 27" 5K Display (which we expect to be announced coincident with the iPhone 7 and 7s, for obvious reasons).

Consider it to be this year's Live Photo-like surprise. In fact, the next-generation of Live Photos, out at the same time, will include support for both WCC & WCD.

YAWNNNN.

 

[MH01]

Get out of here with your logic! We want new frivolous designs with top-of-the-line specs!

But we never got top of the line specs.....we got best profitable specs

YAWNNNN.

what if....it improves the way you watch porn! Not yawnnn anymore right

 

[Oldfash33]

I've said this elsewhere before: changes to contract structures will influence sales numbers in the US more than anything else. Now that phone prices aren't subsidized here anymore, people will wait longer to upgrade. This will not only affect Apple but also all Android manufacturers. Apple is smart to shift to a 3-year cycle as that likely reflects the new reality for most of the customers here.

Overseas, their sales gain each year has mostly been from reaching new countries. There's a glass ceiling there as well as upgrades will be even less frequent in many other countries.

None of this means "peak Apple" has passed – it only means that the market has matured and every company has to shift the way they do things. Apple will be just fine.

I figured with all the programs that the carriers have now here in the US people would be upgrading every year ?? Even Apple has a their upgrade program going.
[doublepost=1467144452][/doublepost]I'll be buying for sure. I've been buying my phones out right the last couple of times. Sell whichever model I currently have and then pay the difference for a new one. Hoping for a 256!!

 

[doelcm82]

Ohh yeah it's doing great!!
The pent up demand at the beginning was obvious as it was a long overdue change. But yeah it's flying off the shelves and all metrics indicated the same for the 6E.
Living in a bubble is comforting isn't it?

I was replying to someone who said it was an UNWELCOME change. I called him an outlier. You are saying it was a long-overdue change, with a lot of pent-up demand. I agree with you.

It's raining here. The roof over my head is comforting, and keeps me dry.

 

[GREEN4U]

I'm still using my iPhone 5 and not planning to switch until a major redesign. Hearing you guys say upgrading from a 6 to a 7 is a long time makes me laugh out loud.

 

[naeS1Sean]

Well I won't be buying one. I'll be getting the S8 next. Lol

 

[emailnotebox]

Man, if the Note 7 is what the leaks are showing and Apple comes out with a phone that has a better camera and removes the headphone jack, they'll see a lot of switching. I love iOS, but the hardware is lagging behind .

I get that better camera = hardware upagrade, but why is removing the headphone jack considred a hardware upgrade? Removal is subtraction, and in this case disables life style and preference of large* group of customers, which is counter intuitive choice. With the current phone model we already have the lightening port, Bluetooth, plus the headphone jack. It is not like we are gaining some new hardware by removing a rather popular output port which may come handy even to those who perfer other outputs.

I have hard time following the arguement that removal of headphone jack would create higher demand for upcoming iPhone.

 

[citysnaps]

"Weak" demand only means that Apple makes great products that don't need to be replaced every 6 months!
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No, consumers have just become unreasonable in expecting something new every year. Can't a product just be great as-is without having to out-do the competition at every release?

I would change that a bit and say it's the keyboard warriors who hang out on tech forums who are unreasonable, expecting earth shaking changes every year. Fortunately, they are a teeny tiny minority of users in Apple's customer base and are safely ignorable.

A much broader cross section would included teachers, fire fighters, doctors, building contractors, pilots, retail workers, house painters, musicians, artists, executives, engineers, small business owners, and on and on. They're just looking for a great phone that meets their needs and works well, and have no need to engage in phone fetishism or care two whits about antenna bands or camera bumps.

 

[cmichaelb]

Ditto. I was like meh....s7.... Yeah cool but I got an iPhone 6s.... Than I saw the batman edition, read the iPhone 7 rumours and the inner geek took over. Love my batman.....and all black !!!!

I understand completely lol.

 

[The Game 161]

Note 7 will be amazing but let's face it a lot won't switch due to the os

Note 7 will be amazing though

 

[joeblow7777]

Yeah if I had been due for an upgrade now, I would've wanted the iPhone 7, but rumors of this super-innovative iPhone 8 make the 7 seem pointless to me.

Sure, there's always something new and better "around the corner", but the iPhone 8 seems like it's significantly new and better, and the iPhone 7 isn't.

I am due for an upgrade, but my continued satisfaction with my 6 combined how much better the 2017 phone sounds means that I will likely skip the 7.