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iPad Pro Went to the Apple Store for the iPad Pro, came back home with a Surface Pro
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723 grams for the iPad Pro with LTE
786 grams for the Surface Pro 4.
Makes any claims that the iPad Pro is too big and too heavy, but the SP4 is just fine, seem specious at best, rampant fanboyism and trolling more probable.
I would find it annoying going between ecosystems. I feel that's more annoying then a bad keyboard or stand - both of which could actually be remedied by 3rd parties.
I am a strong believer that iPad Pro is limiting, and definitely not a laptop replacement. Hence, many people are better served by laptops than iPads (Pro or not). However, I must say, your argument of "two major flaws" was the least convincing I've seen. You are switching over to a completely different platform, one that you don't prefer, all for the stupid kick stand and keyboard?
Many people use iPad Air happily for writing with a nice case and keyboard. We are almost certain that these accessories will come soon for the iPad Pro. As I said, iPad Pro has many limitations, but the lack of accessories, given time, will NOT be one.
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LOL. My SP3 is considerably better today in speed, function, and battery life than it was when I bought it a year ago. Apple is the one primarily responsible for slowing down old hardware with software updates these days.
Agree.
And not just accessories, but more importantly increased functionality from further updates to iOS and 'pro' level apps no doubt coming down the pipeline to both take advantage of the iPP's more than capable hardware.
If you install hundreds of app into surface pro like in ipad air, then you will know what I mean...
Buying Windows never right choice.
I run Windows in a Virtual Machine on my Mac for any necessities.
Funny, but my "old" iPad mini 2 that originally shipped with iOS 7 and is now running iOS 9.1 hasn't slowed down any at all after 2 years worth of updates. That's precisely why I haven't yet upgraded it to a newer model because it hasn't been necessary....
That's from a year-and-a-half ago, referring to a SP3, long before the release of the iPad Pro and Pencil. What is the relevance?
EDIT: Here's the bottom line for me: why do we even need to debate the relative merits of either the iPad Pro or the various Microsoft offerings? Each have their pluses and minuses, and each appeal to a different set of users. We don't need to be approaching each other with vitriol or animosity towards "the other team". Like what you like, buy what you want, and let others enjoy what they want.
Really, it's getting kind of silly in here.
What a bunch of childish Apple fanboy rude posts. I hope this whole thread gets nuked. Pretty classic overcompensation by fanboys who know this is a half baked rushed product by Apple. Waiting for pencil threads, you can't make this stuff up✍ I went just to Apple Store to look and thought the screen on the iPad Pro was dim compared to my Air 2. Most apps looked silly because of not being updated for screen.
Watch. 
That's why kickstand is so important. They are both heavy but with the kickstand you don't have to hold it when using. And unlike the Smart Cover for the iPad, you can adjust angles.
iOS has better app selections. But with Windows, I don't need a gazillion of apps to perform simple tasks.
Hating on Microsoft based on stereotypes. Exactly what I'm talking about lol
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Relevance is it's the starting point of a series of videos. You just have view the follow up videos. Was also a reply to another person who said Microsoft stops improving the product when in reality the previous Surface Pro 3 has seen a lot of improvements and even work with the new Type Cover keyboard and Pen (does the smart keyboard and pencil work with previous iPad Air 2?). Looking forward to his upcoming video comparison of iPP and pencil. In a nutshell, he's a Mac user and pro artist that has replaced his Wacom Cintiq with Surface Pro 3 and doesn't think iPads with any stylus is sufficiently accurate and usable.
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Neither is Mac short for iPad. Unless you're thinking of the iPadintosh tosh.
If you'd like to broaden your horizon:
– and yes, I'm active in the areas for the alternatives.
No one is here to broaden their horizon, this forum is to discuss iPads. That's why it's labeled "iPad Forum".
Given the buggy state that MS launches their hardware and software, I believe this.
Disliking an OS is not a stereotype.
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Before returning the iPP maybe consider using it as a slave for SP4.
