Don't care so much about which of the two designs it is (iPhone 4 style or thinner/rounder edges) what I care about the most is a 4 inch screen!
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What do you think will happen if it's a 4S?
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Don't care so much about which of the two designs it is (iPhone 4 style or thinner/rounder edges) what I care about the most is a 4 inch screen!
Don't really care what the design of it is (iPhone 4 style or thinner/rounder edges) all I care about is a 4 inch screen!!!
If you want a 4 inch screen that bad, go buy some Android phone man. No one is restricting you to. It's a free world.
Hahaha. I'm the opposite. I want square edges after being on the 3GS, and then having to downgrade to the 3G while waiting. Whatever it is, I'm going to buy it, but I just don't like the look of the purported images that would fit the ip5 case, although I'm sure apple would make it look cooler than what we've seen.
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Don't be ignorant. If I wanted an Android phone I would have already gotten one. What I want is a bigger screen on the iPhone 5...
So if they only release a spec-bumped "4S" in a couple weeks, when will they release an LTE capable iPhone? This time next year?
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The ideal upgrade path looking back would have been:
Buy iPhone
Skip iPhone 3G
Buy iPhone 3GS
Skip iPhone 4
Buy iPhone 4s
The 3G is a terrible model in the sense that I didn't have 3G in my area until it was 11 months old and the guts were the same speed as the original iPhone. I am pretty happy on a 3GS and experience Antennagate while I owned an iPhone 4. Running iOS5 is definitely making it look a bit long in the tooth.
If Apple maintains the form factor they have now I will switch to Android. Nexus S to be specific.
Buy iPhone
Skip iPhone 3G
Buy iPhone 3GS
Skip iPhone 4
Buy iPhone 4s
The 3G is a terrible model in the sense that I didn't have 3G in my area until it was 11 months old and the guts were the same speed as the original iPhone. I am pretty happy on a 3GS and experience Antennagate while I owned an iPhone 4. Running iOS5 is definitely making it look a bit long in the tooth.
If Apple maintains the form factor they have now I will switch to Android. Nexus S to be specific.
Believe it or not I'm not trying to start some kind of flame war. I'm just saying what I think and it seems that many people who don't have their heads in Apple's dark spot agree. Whether those who don't understand the mentality of corporate marketing agree or not, it is accepted wisdom that you do not announce new products in Nov, Dec, or Jan. People are too distracted by the holiday season. Most agree that Oct is not ideal, but in an emergency it will work for those who simply have no choice. Believe me Apple did not delay this iP5 introduction to this time of year by choice. There is (or has been) some major technical or manufacturing problem(s).
Will Apple release a 4S phone only at this point? Heck no! They could have done that long, long ago. To do it now looks, frankly, stupid and inept. They are not stupid and inept, but they are not genuises with magic wands either. Unfortunately engineering development doesn't always work out as planned.
Will Apple release a phone without NFC and LTE when the competition already has it out there? FLAT NO! It would put them at least one year behind and in the minds of those signing a 2 year contract 2 years behind. I have more faith in them than that stupid result would indicate. I hope I'm correct or I'll have a Samsung phone on Oct 5.
Will Apple release a 4S phone only at this point? Heck no! They could have done that long, long ago. To do it now looks, frankly, stupid and inept. They are not stupid and inept, but they are not genuises with magic wands either. Unfortunately engineering development doesn't always work out as planned.
Will Apple release a phone without NFC and LTE when the competition already has it out there? FLAT NO! It would put them at least one year behind and in the minds of those signing a 2 year contract 2 years behind. I have more faith in them than that stupid result would indicate. I hope I'm correct or I'll have a Samsung phone on Oct 5.
They may not have a magic wand but they do have some geniuses working for them!
I really agree with your line of thinking, however, I could see Apple not having an LTE phone if the battery technology is not there.
Nobody, or at least it's not news worthy, complains about iPhones battery unless the battery was defective. I had a defective battery out of the box with my iPhone 4. Phone had to be charged before they could activate it at Best Buy.
I had to go to the Apple store twice (they made me restore my phone as new) but the second time I got a new phone and the battery has been great.
I do agree that Apple will release an iPhone 5. They may bump up their specs on the iPhone 4 to keep it in the market place, after all, they have a tone of R&D with the glass and aluminum design of the iPhone 4.
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I have a 3G and will most certainly be upgrading to whatever comes out. I find it odd that the OP would only upgrade to a 3GS when there's the 4 and 4S out there too with MUCH better specs and abilities.
I remember some of us who mention this might 'just' be a 4S were shunned like there was no tomorrow when we brought that up in threads about the next iPhone.
I think people will upgrade...even some from the 4 to the 4S. It will be a major success and continue to grow the brand in the same way it did when Apple went from the 3G to the 3GS.
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Apple seems fine with not including things 'just because' someone else has them. How's that Blu Ray player in your MacBook Pro working for you?
I remember some of us who mention this might 'just' be a 4S were shunned like there was no tomorrow when we brought that up in threads about the next iPhone.
I think people will upgrade...even some from the 4 to the 4S. It will be a major success and continue to grow the brand in the same way it did when Apple went from the 3G to the 3GS.
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Apple seems fine with not including things 'just because' someone else has them. How's that Blu Ray player in your MacBook Pro working for you?
"Apple seems fine with not including things 'just because' someone else has them. How's that Blu Ray player in your MacBook Pro working for you?"
If you are equating the capability of a optical disk player (or no player at all) with the speed of data connectivity, you're lost in a Apple mythical paradise. Optical players are dead ducks, Flash is a dead duck with HTML5 on the table. Data speed is not a dead duck. 3G connectivity can't even keep the buffer of a radio station full, much less video. I have an interest in high speed data. At home I have 20mbps on a cable modem and I'm reasonably satisfied, but thinking of upgrading to 30 or 50. Since my current iP uses WiFi from that cable connection, I have no need for high speed cellular data at home.
But on the road I desperately need at least HSPA+, but really LTE at 12-40 mbps, Thus a 3G capable phone is no longer useful to me if LTE (or even HSPA+) is available. It is available where I need to use it so I need a phone that can utilize it.
It sounds like many of you are not sensitive to data speeds. That's fine, no problem. In my case I don't care about a camera. I've never taken a picture with a cell phone and I've never wanted to make a call or send an email on either my Nikon D-200 or D-7000. At best cell phone cameras don't meet my needs and never will. I think some of you might feel the same about LTE. We could all be interested in NFC (I think). It's functional in Asia and widely used. I expect it to become the standard for paying here also and I expect the market leaders will be identified in less the 2 years. Therefore I want a phone that supports it in the next contract cycle and I think many people do (even if they don't know it yet).
Apple is the apex of the cell phone market now and deservedly so. That's why I have one, but the only way to go from the top is down and once it starts, it's hard to stop. All I'm saying is take off your Apple glasses and evaluate what happens objectively. I'm hoping to stay with Apple because I like the hardware and I like the way the software works in concert with my other Apple products (MacBook Pro 15", iMac 27", IPad 2, Time Capsule), but if the competition is significantly advanced I have to go there. Let's hope it's not the case.
If you are equating the capability of a optical disk player (or no player at all) with the speed of data connectivity, you're lost in a Apple mythical paradise. Optical players are dead ducks, Flash is a dead duck with HTML5 on the table. Data speed is not a dead duck. 3G connectivity can't even keep the buffer of a radio station full, much less video. I have an interest in high speed data. At home I have 20mbps on a cable modem and I'm reasonably satisfied, but thinking of upgrading to 30 or 50. Since my current iP uses WiFi from that cable connection, I have no need for high speed cellular data at home.
But on the road I desperately need at least HSPA+, but really LTE at 12-40 mbps, Thus a 3G capable phone is no longer useful to me if LTE (or even HSPA+) is available. It is available where I need to use it so I need a phone that can utilize it.
It sounds like many of you are not sensitive to data speeds. That's fine, no problem. In my case I don't care about a camera. I've never taken a picture with a cell phone and I've never wanted to make a call or send an email on either my Nikon D-200 or D-7000. At best cell phone cameras don't meet my needs and never will. I think some of you might feel the same about LTE. We could all be interested in NFC (I think). It's functional in Asia and widely used. I expect it to become the standard for paying here also and I expect the market leaders will be identified in less the 2 years. Therefore I want a phone that supports it in the next contract cycle and I think many people do (even if they don't know it yet).
Apple is the apex of the cell phone market now and deservedly so. That's why I have one, but the only way to go from the top is down and once it starts, it's hard to stop. All I'm saying is take off your Apple glasses and evaluate what happens objectively. I'm hoping to stay with Apple because I like the hardware and I like the way the software works in concert with my other Apple products (MacBook Pro 15", iMac 27", IPad 2, Time Capsule), but if the competition is significantly advanced I have to go there. Let's hope it's not the case.
This is the most ridiculous thing I've seen on these forums in a long time. Jesus Christ.
Because I respect apple and their products... I'm still waiting for the event. If they only announce an iPhone 4s, then I'll just buy a white galaxy s2!
But I believe apple will just wow us once again!
But I believe apple will just wow us once again!
I have a 3G and will most certainly be upgrading to whatever comes out. I find it odd that the OP would only upgrade to a 3GS when there's the 4 and 4S out there too with MUCH better specs and abilities.
It's not specifically about the specs (plus the internals of the iPhone 3GS and 4 are more similar), it's about the design. I hate the brick-like design of the iPhone 4.
But recent rumors from 9to5Mac again point to a redesigned iPhone 5, but it getting delays. So i'm hopeful.
I just thought of a horrific scenario. Well, horrific if you're a Sprint customer.
Tim Cook does the presentation and everything, blah blah blah. Talks up the iPhone 5 and how great it will be to do *insert great things iOS 5 does*. Then he reaches into Steve Jobs' bag of tricks and says "... one more thing..."
Sprint will also be getting an iPhone, an exclusive one. the iPhone 4s! Yay everyone Sprint finally has an iPhone yay!
At this point, I stare at my beaten up Evo (the phone I only got because the phone I thought would be awesome ((original Pre)) wasn't worth the 18 months from first sight til 3rd broken model), I throw it as hard as possible at a brick wall, I scream to the skies "Why can I never have what I WAAAAAAANNNNNTTTTTTT??!!!!!!".... and I sign up for 2 years with AT&T/Verizon.
Tim Cook does the presentation and everything, blah blah blah. Talks up the iPhone 5 and how great it will be to do *insert great things iOS 5 does*. Then he reaches into Steve Jobs' bag of tricks and says "... one more thing..."
Sprint will also be getting an iPhone, an exclusive one. the iPhone 4s! Yay everyone Sprint finally has an iPhone yay!
At this point, I stare at my beaten up Evo (the phone I only got because the phone I thought would be awesome ((original Pre)) wasn't worth the 18 months from first sight til 3rd broken model), I throw it as hard as possible at a brick wall, I scream to the skies "Why can I never have what I WAAAAAAANNNNNTTTTTTT??!!!!!!".... and I sign up for 2 years with AT&T/Verizon.
What will happen? People will go ape **** over the iPhone 4S. It will sell better than ever thanks to all the hype that's been built over the past several months. It will become the must-have piece of technology. It will become the highest selling smart phone. Apple's Cash-In-Hand will see a 30% increase.
In short, history will repeat itself fifth year running .
In short, history will repeat itself fifth year running .
Knock it off your desk once and see the spider-webs from shattering. You'll understand then.
If you broke the screen on an iPhone 4 then you would have broke/spider-web'd the screen any of the other iPhone designs as well so thats not a real argument against the iPhone 4 design.
The only real argument you can make is against the glass on the back of the phone. But if you break the back glass of the iPhone 4 you can simply have it replaced for $29... problem solved
No LTE no new iPhone purchase. That is the killer feature I would want to future proof the phone.
How many iPhone owners aren't immediately looking to the NEXT iPhone anyway? Future-proofing is great for someone (like me) who wants to keep their phones for 2-3 years, but most iPhone users are ravenous for the latest-and-greatest and will shell out money each and every time a new model is issued.
But in it's true form, 'future-proofing' these days is almost meaningless as the tech world changes so rapidly with each new phone design and release. One is lucky to be able to use next year's apps adequately on this year's phone. Specs change, speeds continue to increase, programmers take advantage of the higher-level specs and those with the older phones end up seeing their performance degrade over time.