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The iTunes debate:

I don't mind using iTunes to sync my data. It's quick (usually) and easy. However, iTunes is EXTREMELY SLOW on any windows computer you use. Apple needs to clean it up a bit or make an app that is made just for syncing devices. They can call it "iSync" or something. It can link to iTunes to pick media to sync, but not necessarily require iTunes for this information.
 
I read through page 1 and stopped. This is such a bad comparison. You compare almost 1 year old tech to tech which just came out and as you state isnt even available to most Americans. Very fair comparison indeed.
 
android isnt it even a company like apple is, people sit here and compare all these android phones too just one iphone 4 pretty pathetic, how many android phones does it take too beat one iphone 4? all that said i love my iphone 4 and will never have anything else, apples iphones are the best hands down and super clean
 
Sorry pal but the Thunderbolt is Verizon's flagship phone. No phone, not even the iPhone 4 has gotten as much advertising as the Thunderbolt. TB advertising is EVERYWHERE!!! The DX2 has only the Tegra 2 and qHD screen and everything else is last years tech. Heck, the DX2 was released without any fanfare or advertising. Came out with a whimper. That is not what you do for your flagship device.

Only has Tegra 2 and qhd? You say that as if the Thunderbolt is a cutting edge device lol. The thunderbolt is nothing more than the EVO with LTE instead of Wimax. The DX2 is a definite step up over the Thunderbolt. Don't kid yourself the Thunderbolt is not their flagship device, you don't make your flagship device the same as a phone that came out a year ago.
 
I really do find it baffling at this point that anyone can consider iTunes to be a positive feature. It artificially ties the handset down to one to one machine in an era where people own several (I have a Windows PC where all my storage is, and hence my phone syncs too, and a MacBook. If I buy an album on my Macbook can I put it on my iPhone? Can I hell - I need to get a USB stick, transfer the purchases over to my PC, and watch iTunes take over twenty minutes to start up, import the songs and sync them). I have to use it even to do one touch podcast updating (arrrghh, why isn't this native and tied to my iTunes account yet? Why can't I at least sync podcasts through another machine???). Why can't I transfer files to the phone when mounted as a USB drive on the iPhone instead of having to do a full sync including backup of 16 Gigs of data over a USB connection to move a 20k file? Why is iTunes in the middle of this?

The majority of iTunes users are on Windows machines, and on Windows iTunes is a buggy, unreliable memory hog that relentlessly steals window focus for no apparent reason in complete contradiction to any UI guidelines. It is probably the worst piece of professionally made mass distributed software available today. It is a catastrophe, and I'm finding people citing it as a reason they don't want an iPhone more and more.

The thing the iPhone still has on Android is the developer community via the App Store. Hopefully this subscription debacle isn't about to destroy it.

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I am an android fan.

That being said, I will tell you what iOS has on android

1. Nicer resolution - iPhone 4 display is very sharp. I'd love to have one that sharp

2. Better battery life - Every android device I have ever used has had what I consider to be sub-par battery life. A phone should ideally be able to go 12 hours with moderate use without completely draining the battery. The poor performance leads to behavior which hurts the battery life even more (keeping the phone on a charger constantly).

3.Gobs of accessories - The local dollar stores are filled with iCrap. This means that you can usually find a case or docking station for your iPhone for pretty cheap. If you have a less popular version of an Android phone then you are often out of luck unless you hit up amazon/ebay
 
I have an iPhone, and I still have my old HTC HD2 (WM6.5).

No question, the iPhone is better in all aspects. Well, nearly all. GPS reception is WAY better with the HTC and navigation with the iPhone simply sux (poor GPS).

Actually I wanted to sell my HTC HD2. This said, why not play with it a little....

I flashed the ROM to Android 2.3.4 - and WOW, it works very well on my old HTC phone.

I am tempted to keep the HTC now and sell the iPhone. Android seems to be way more flexible.
 
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In the words of apple itself:
If it's not an iPhone, it's just not an iPhone.
 
Nothing!

Android is much better than iOS, faster, more powerful processors, more RAM, higher resolution screens. And best of all with Android you get all the bennefits of free and opensource OS. Apple is greedy keeping the code for themselves. But people are voting with their wallets and that's why iPhone is on the decline.
 
Nothing!

Android is much better than iOS, faster, more powerful processors, more RAM, higher resolution screens. And best of all with Android you get all the bennefits of free and opensource OS. Apple is greedy keeping the code for themselves. But people are voting with their wallets and that's why iPhone is on the decline.


perhaps you need to read the OP's question again...
what has iOS got to do with processors, screens and Ram? :rolleyes:

When the next iPhone comes out, lets see how much decline there is.
 
Nothing!

Android is much better than iOS, faster, more powerful processors, more RAM, higher resolution screens. And best of all with Android you get all the bennefits of free and opensource OS. Apple is greedy keeping the code for themselves. But people are voting with their wallets and that's why iPhone is on the decline.

Why are you here, just to be a troll?

I've been an android and iOS user and each OS has its strengths and weaknesses.

android is not faster, its poor ram management means it requires more ram. The biggest weakness is its open source and fragmentation. You need to wait and hope the phone manufacturers update android - there's no guarantee.

I owned a DX and found moto to be slow at updating android and when they did, it was buggy.
 
Why are you here, just to be a troll?

I've been an android and iOS user and each OS has its strengths and weaknesses.

android is not faster, its poor ram management means it requires more ram. The biggest weakness is its open source and fragmentation. You need to wait and hope the phone manufacturers update android - there's no guarantee.

I owned a DX and found moto to be slow at updating android and when they did, it was buggy.

I've had every iPhone since 2007 and the Galaxy S II is my first Android handset because of what you said. Android is really power hungry and the SGS2 is the first Android phone to actually run it as smoothly as iOS.
 
I still don't really understand why some seem crazed over some newer phone (SGS2) that might have some specs that some might see as "better" than those of the iPhone 4 when you're comparing a phone that released well into 2011 against the iPhone model that released last summer. It tends to speak on how far and high Apple's set the bar with the iPhone though. I look forward to iOS 5 and iPhone 5/6 though, maybe we'll see how long it might take for the competition to get close to it again.

(Btw this wasn't directed at you ImperialX, this was directed more towards those like the OP that almost seem to boast that a 2011 phone is finally catching up with the iPhone 4 in terms of usability)
 
Haha, I have my doubts that the iPhone 5/iPhone 4S can beat the SGS2 in terms of hardware. The SGS2's Exynos is more powerful than the A5, and that's very likely the processor that's going to end up inside the next generation iPhone. But who knows? Apple may pull out a surprise. I just doubt it, that's all. ;)

I'm using Android because iOS doesn't support third-party video codecs or hardware acceleration. I enjoy watching my MKVs without the need to convert them or stream them with Air Video.

For example, my iPad 2 technically should be good enough to decode h.264 MKV at 720p without a sweat. Well, it can't. It's not the hardware's fault. It's Apple for being too closed. I doubt they're going to change any time soon, so it doesn't matter how good and polished everything else is - I'm not going back to iOS until I can watch my animu!
 
I never owned an driod phone, but one thing is really kiling me wiht iOS and that is the lack of flash. Alot of company websites are made in Flash, so no way can watch it with iOS.

Steve jobs don't want Flash because of free Flash games on the internet which he can't make money off threw iTunes.

What I like about iOS, is simply the interface and the applications. That's all actually.

I tried driod on the Samsung tablet and it was very laggy, but that's due to not having GPU acceleration. Driod needs to implement that.

Both have cons and pro.
 
I never owned an driod phone, but one thing is really kiling me wiht iOS and that is the lack of flash. Alot of company websites are made in Flash, so no way can watch it with iOS.
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If you're talking of Flash videos only, Skyfire works well.
 
Haha, I have my doubts that the iPhone 5/iPhone 4S can beat the SGS2 in terms of hardware. The SGS2's Exynos is more powerful than the A5, and that's very likely the processor that's going to end up inside the next generation iPhone. But who knows? Apple may pull out a surprise. I just doubt it, that's all. ;)

I'm using Android because iOS doesn't support third-party video codecs or hardware acceleration. I enjoy watching my MKVs without the need to convert them or stream them with Air Video.

For example, my iPad 2 technically should be good enough to decode h.264 MKV at 720p without a sweat. Well, it can't. It's not the hardware's fault. It's Apple for being too closed. I doubt they're going to change any time soon, so it doesn't matter how good and polished everything else is - I'm not going back to iOS until I can watch my animu!

Not just hardware, iPhone's software is years behind what the GS2 includes! A propertary os will never rival a freee open source one. Yes Apple is too closed.
 
Personally, I think comparing the 2 right now when Apple is just about to announce a major update to their operating system is kind of stupid. Let's see what happens on Monday first.
 
One thing iOS has over Android....

Consistency. As a user, that matters more to me than other features.
 
It is the same as what makes one person like a different Car MFG over another. Everyone has their own opinion and preferences, some folks just are Apple and Jobs haters so they will bash the iPhone, but as for me, I could not wait to leave Verizon and their phone selection and make the move to AT&T, and it has been over 2 years now. I have no issues with the phone just because it works, also AT&T's customer service is 1000X better then Verizon for ME, not for everyone as I know there have been folks who left AT&T for VZ.

The biggest turn off of Android for me is like a Windows PC, OS built by one company, PC built by another and they never seem to play well together. I would hate to buy an Atrix (even though I was looking into them) as my friend purchased one and got this Blockbuster Video app which is useless and can not be removed, and he said the OS locks up and battery life was poor.

I like the integration with my MacBook and iTunes, and for me it works, but I know a Co Worker who has a Droid X and root'd it and it works perfect according to him, so to each their own, as I have nothing nasty to say about Android because I did not own one and once I bought my iPhone 3G, I was hooked on the iPhone in general.
 
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