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what features do you hope to see in OS X 10.6

kuwisdelu said:
I think a new and improved Quicktime would be cool, with an added library like iTune's.

Being able to natively add themes would be cool. Don't allow just any user to mess with colors and such, because then we would have ugly themes like Windows users. Just allow us to download new OS X skins like Firefox handles it.

And transformer ability. I want my MacBook to be able to morph into Optimus Prime.
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An iTunes for Movies specifically now I think thats a very good idea. iTunes is a bit misrepresenting. Nice.

clevin said:
This isn't one on one fight:confused:, this is a discussion and I was replying to other people's statement. I think its better we calm down on the topic.

I would very much disagree with what you said about selling point.

"Best OS with less HDD requirement", IMHO, is a pretty good selling point. Intel users pay double space for ppc is absurd, and apple will have to address it in some way.
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I never said anyone was fighting. In fact I've tried to calm things down by agreeing with you and trying to move on. But as Killmoms mentioned, what is 2 or 3 gigs worth? And I think the HDD requirement for any current OS hasn't been much of a talking point since the days before DVD's (if even). I've never been flamed or flamed anyone for being a fanboy regarding their OS of choice having less HDD requirement, memory requirements maybe.

kuwisdelu said:
Come on! Someone else has to like this idea!
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Transformers, sure. But what if a network of computers could form into Voltron??? Now that's worth $129.99!

killmoms said:
Unlikely. I'd imagine 10.6 will still support PPC. However, in 10.7 I could see them dropping support for pre-Intel systems.
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What a strange day that'll be (re: 10.7).
 
I'd like to see some work on the UI. I understand that Leopard's UI framework had to be completely redone, so it's understandable that's not perfect. Look at OS X earlier than Jaguar and you'll see that there was a lot of refinement there. Just the same, Leopard tends to look awful. The inner window buttons are overly shiny and the window frames and toolbar buttons are boring and grey. I'd like something shiny AND mature, like Aperture's appearance. There should also be some more subtle animation. Windows shouldn't just magically appear, they should fade in slightly, and things like that.

Also, two things that have bothered me hugely for a long time: When windows are minimizing, they lose their shadow and it looks really cheap. That and the lack of antialiasing in quartz composer (not sure if I'm naming that right) views. Look at coverflow's horrible aliasing in iTunes, and the aliasing in Exposé and you'll see what I mean.
 
Last window closed kills a running application.

I use spaces in 10.5 and virtue desktops in 10.4 and it is a pain in the a** to have to go though the dock and and close an appliction that that has no windows opens. I can understand it if I have two windows open and I kill one. The os should have a way to keep count of the number of windows open and when it reaches zero the application is released from memory. :)
 
terryjonesxp said:
I use spaces in 10.5 and virtue desktops in 10.4 and it is a pain in the a** to have to go though the dock and and close an appliction that that has no windows opens. I can understand it if I have two windows open and I kill one. The os should have a way to keep count of the number of windows open and when it reaches zero the application is released from memory. :)
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...So you want it to quit application when you close the last window?

Sorry, that's one Windows behavior that won't be carried over to OS X I'm afraid—leaving multi-window apps open until you specifically quit them is a long-standing Mac OS behavior.
 
terryjonesxp said:
I use spaces in 10.5 and virtue desktops in 10.4 and it is a pain in the a** to have to go though the dock and and close an appliction that that has no windows opens. I can understand it if I have two windows open and I kill one. The os should have a way to keep count of the number of windows open and when it reaches zero the application is released from memory. :)
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This comment comes up from time to time, but from a long time Mac user it just doesn't make sense. That's not how I know the Mac OS to work, generally some of the bigger programs (i.e. Adobe stuff, MatLab, video editors...) take a while to load up. I don't want to have to have a window left open just so it stays open, and then have to reload the program again if I inadvertently close that last window.

As for the UI tweaks I never quite understand what people are complaining about. Leopard looks fine.
 
We all have dirctories and files that we dont others to see. I like coverflow and quicklook but I dont use quicklook because it shows all my business to the outside world. It would be nice to have under get info a check box exclude certain directories and folders from being viewed using quicklook. :D

I would like to be able to view my dashboard wigets in groups so I can keep them originized. Example press 12 and you get a view of the last set wigets you looked at . Press F13 and you get four spaces to to move wigets around in. New system preference for wigets and dashboard. Also the ability in prental controls to block a child from making a wiget from a site that the parent finds to be objectable.:rolleyes:

Most of us have used more them one monitor in our lifetime. It it silly to have to go back to the first monitor just to use the dock or create a new window for an application. I used 2 monitor setups under Windows, Linux, and Mac OS X. They all suck. The concept of a primary and secondary monitor is just silly. Just give me full control of the os on each monitor.:mad:

Some users have been using virtual desktops for a while under unix and linux and find spaces needing more functionality to be a real virtual desktop system. One area that is a smart move is the bird's eye view. the following are a list of features that need to be added to make spaces even better.
1. The ability to name each space and have the name show in the menu bar.
2. The ability create a custom background for each space.
3. The ability to create the same window on each space.
4. The ability to have the dock show only minimized windows from a certain space, Example I am in space A and minimized a window from an app onto the dock while in space A. When I switch to space B the dock is clear of minimized windows from space A. When I return to A space the dock shows the minimized windows of space A. :cool:
5. A new preference under the dock for suggestion No. 4.
 
You know what I'D like to see in OS X 10.6, terryjonesxp? The ability to edit one's previous post instead of QUADRUPLE-POSTING. :rolleyes:
 
Better support for USB printers that are attached to a windows computer.

I can't tell you how many time I have tried to connect a Mac to a printer that is connected to a windows mechine visa USB. I tried with a MacBook Pro running 10.4.10 and AN HP pillivion 7965 us/can Windows XP Pro SP2 with an HP 4215 printer.
Apple care was of no help.
 
terryjonesxp said:
Some users have been using virtual desktops for a while under unix and linux and find spaces needing more functionality to be a real virtual desktop system. One area that is a smart move is the bird's eye view. the following are a list of features that need to be added to make spaces even better.
1. The ability to name each space and have the name show in the menu bar.
2. The ability create a custom background for each space.
3. The ability to create the same window on each space.
4. The ability to have the dock show only minimized windows from a certain space, Example I am in space A and minimized a window from an app onto the dock while in space A. When I switch to space B the dock is clear of minimized windows from space A. When I return to A space the dock shows the minimized windows of space A. :cool:
5. A new preference under the dock for suggestion No. 4.
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You already can do a number of these things.
1. Each space has a number and can be shown in the menu-bar, I know its not a custom name, but it does distinguish where you are.
3. Set the Finder as showing in every space in Spaces prefs, you'll find the Finder in Core Services folder.

Everything you mention I feel is over complicated. Especially your Widgets spaces and Quicklook options (which I don't quite understand what you're getting at). Each User has access only to their files.

EDIT: What about a program that manages your network router setup better? The Airport Utility is ok, but only works for airports. Think network management for iLife or something.
 
Exclude certain folders from quicklook

i want the ability not to accidently quicklook a very private folder. Love quicklook. It needs some primissions that are special for that finder view. Example business plans when you are showing a word document to a client.

GimmeSlack12 said:
You already can do a number of these things.
1. Each space has a number and can be shown in the menu-bar, I know its not a custom name, but it does distinguish where you are.
3. Set the Finder as showing in every space in Spaces prefs, you'll find the Finder in Core Services folder.

Everything you mention I feel is over complicated. Especially your Widgets spaces and Quicklook options (which I don't quite understand what you're getting at). Each User has access only to their files.

EDIT: What about a program that manages your network router setup better? The Airport Utility is ok, but only works for airports. Think network management for iLife or something.
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terryjonesxp said:
i want the ability not to accidently quicklook a very private folder. Love quicklook. It needs some primissions that are special for that finder view. Example business plans when you are showing a word document to a client.
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Honestly that's up to the responsibility of the user. It's not possible to easily show anything private on your computer, first you have to purposely highlight that private file and then press the spacebar for Quicklook to reveal, it's not that easy to accidentally do both of those.
Secondly if you have files very private and it's necessary to share your computer screen for work purposes or whatever then you need to create a second user account just for files that are okay for public viewing.
None of this is something Apple needs to fix, the user has to make choices and have full responsibility.
 
terryjonesxp said:
i want the ability not to accidently quicklook a very private folder. Love quicklook. It needs some primissions that are special for that finder view. Example business plans when you are showing a word document to a client.
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I might be nitpicking on this one, but quicklook doesn't show the contents of a folder. Only a file. If you quicklook a folder all you see is the folder icon. Which keeps your private stuff safe cause no one outside your account can access your folders. Not sure if you were using folder as a generic term for file. But I guess the option to turn off quicklook would be something that's useful to some people (though I would expect a point update for 10.5 would be able to resolve this vs. 10.6).

Moving on, what if Macs started using Bio-sensors and a new app could interact with those, perhaps even the new multi-touch trackpads and having trackpad gestures to do things? This idea is borderline mouse gestures.
 
Block use of the ternimal in a user account.

We all know of kids and adults who will try there best to use the ternimal to get by prental controls and system adminstrators. I want a setting that would allow a parent or system adminstrators to block access to the terminal.
 
terryjonesxp said:
We all know of kids and adults who will try there best to use the ternimal to get by prental controls and system adminstrators. I want a setting that would allow a parent or system adminstrators to block access to the terminal.
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If you use Parental Controls in either Tiger or Leopard, you can disallow use of specific applications (or rather, allow use of specific applications only) to prevent them from using the Terminal. Can't keep them out of single-user mode, but as long as you put a root password on the system, I think that should be more difficult for them to mess with. That or a firmware password.

jW
 
A database product addad to the Iwork suite

I use Iworks 08 and love it apple need to add a database product to it lineup so that mac uses can have a database the is on par with windows access and complete its office suite. Apple made powerpoint look like crap with keynote. Also have this database tie into the operating system so users and system administrators can create data reports on different parts of the os and print them in an easily to read format.
 
terryjonesxp said:
I use Iworks 08 and love it apple need to add a database product to it lineup so that mac uses can have a database the is on par with windows access and complete its office suite. Apple made powerpoint look like crap with keynote. Also have this database tie into the operating system so users and system administrators can create data reports on different parts of the os and print them in an easily to read format.
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Its not in iWork per se, but FileMaker Pro has been the go-to database program for sometime on OS X. It integrates pretty darn well with the OS as is.
 
terryjonesxp said:
I use Iworks 08 and love it apple need to add a database product to it lineup so that mac uses can have a database the is on par with windows access and complete its office suite. Apple made powerpoint look like crap with keynote. Also have this database tie into the operating system so users and system administrators can create data reports on different parts of the os and print them in an easily to read format.
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Sounds cool.

But what I want is them to improve Numbers so it's even better than Excel, and then release a version of iWork for Windows to compete with MS Office on its home turf.
 
kuwisdelu said:
Sounds cool.

But what I want is them to improve Numbers so it's even better than Excel, and then release a version of iWork for Windows to compete with MS Office on its home turf.
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Nah. Apple software works best on Apple hardware. If it performs poorly on Windows, people will get a bad impression of it.
 
• An XNA-like framework and Xcode project type for creating games.
• IRC in iChat
• Arbitrary columns in the Finder's list view based on Spotlight metadata (this really should have been in 10.5)
• WebObjects back in Objective-C (I can dream, right?)
• Cocoa Touch for Macs with (3rd party or otherwise) touchscreens.
• Something in the Finder to obviate applications like Yum (document cataloger)
• Put back the 10.4 TCP/IP stack
• Integrate Core Data and WebObjects
• Open up ProKit to everyone
• Repair the hammer's direction in Xcode - every other icon with a tool - TextEdit, AppleWorks, TextMate, SuperDuper, Soluver, Fink Commander, Open GL Shader Builder, Quartz Composer... all have their tools oriented for the right hand. The only possible way someone could use that hammer in their right hand is to pull a nail out of the top of the icon.
 
terryjonesxp said:
4. The ability to have the dock show only minimized windows from a certain space, Example I am in space A and minimized a window from an app onto the dock while in space A. When I switch to space B the dock is clear of minimized windows from space A. When I return to A space the dock shows the minimized windows of space A. :cool:
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As an option, yes, but I don't think it should be mandatory. I quite like the fact I can minmize windows and move them into another space through the dock. It makes it faster for me since I have two mouse buttons that I use to toggle through spaces, which means I can move windows quicker that way than pressing the spaces button to see them all, and then move the one window across.
And before you say "Click and drag works fine!", it does on most apps, but some don't like being dragged across spaces.

Shotglass said:
Nah. Apple software works best on Apple hardware. If it performs poorly on Windows, people will get a bad impression of it.
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*cough* Safari *cough*


I think that Apple should make 10.6 completely touchable. Mouse support and Keyboard like previously would be a fine option too, but if Apple offered "kits" that allowed you to turn your normal screen into a touchscreen, or let you send in your computer and have a touch-screen installed, then Apple would be able to do this perfectly. I think it would be fantastic and would not only rival Windows, but would also rival Microsoft surface if Apple allowed iMacs to be mounted horizontally... especially if Front Row is beefed up more.

Also if they made OS X a bit more customizable. Maybe toggles for transparency, Window shade (What shade of grey is, as well with a Black option) and what colours the traffic lights are. Of course, this is unlikely but it would be a bit of fun :p
 
BlakTornado said:
*cough* Safari *cough*
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Maybe I'm missing the point, but Safari and Office have literally nothing to do with each other.

Moving on, what if the UI would change according to the time of day? Kind of like the PS3 OS does with its background color. Based on the time of day the computer could offer up ideas for dinner or give Game scores or news updates or wrap-ups on the day, based on your preferences. Think of the computer as a personal assistant. The GUI would become dynamic.
 
The ability to create more then 4 partitions on An Intel Mac HD

Apple allows other OSes to run on its hardware .Sometime when you run a virtual machine you don't get the full power of an OS using virtual machine software such as vmwarefusion,parallels,or virtual box. Just look at all the people to who tried to triple boot mac hardware to run the MAC OS, Windows XP, And Ubuntu Linux. A lot of the hardware sells at Apple are from people who want really great hardware and a great OS but must run other oses because they have no choice.
 
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