I am watching "Play it Again Sam" (1972). One of my favorite comedic movies. Have seen it 100 times and it never gets old. 
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I pretty much agree with you regarding the whole crew thing, acting and character wise (and would add that punk-dude who is supposed to be the expert on stones but gets lost 5mins walking back within the cave which wasn't that crazy maze to begin with).
But the 'we created humans but now hate them' topic makes sense imo: humans were nothing but a tool (like David the androit) created to hatch the aliens. that's my interpretation of course.
Fassbender was great imo. and I did like the engineer/alien/hugger/else cgi, looked good.
LOL...you are a good man sir.
SPOILERS abound if you haven't seen this...
Sorry Huntn, but you asked...
Why Prometheus was ridiculous? (and she's off...)
The logic behind the engineers:
a) We created humans but we hate you, so you will die, just because we hate you.
b) The engineers look like goofy albino human Giants instead of the creepy Giger skeletal thingy... (thus removing all of their creep factor and the fact that they engineered us.)
and big ol' abdominal hole: the face hugger victim is nowhere near his piloting chair a la Alien.
Character stuff:
a) We need cranky or cocky crew members where the mutate causing black oil and its' beastie are thawing out (X Files - what no Krycek?)
b) And old man Weyland (probably the worst performance I've seen from Guy Pearce) wants his creator to give him more life (um hi Blade Runner - I realize Ridley directed both Alien and BR.. but do Weyland and Tyrell Corp know each other?) - is this an Alien movie or what?
and bb) of course Weyland's daughter wants daddy's crown and android David hates Weyland too.
cc) Speaking of David, is he Ash or Bishop? (Well at least they did not give him a name that started with a C) and his ever ready decapitated head going on and on...
dd) Disliked Shaw outright. Noomi played her so wooden I felt like she was the A.I. and Fassbender was human. I kept thinking "...and this believer is the person who guided the old loony Weyland and the crew to their demises?" I could not care less about her (I was gunning for the Will E Coyote splat Theron received to take out Noomi too.)
And Shaw's beliefs? Huh? She still wants her cross at the end and is determined to find the psycho alien engineers who love their creations so much they want to kill them. She deserves her fate.
The operation scene was hilarious: Shaw gets a c section in a machine set up for male physicality and the machine does it anyway because she set it to abdominal surgery even after it is set to male only? Uh, what?
and the monster stuff was slapstick funny. Not what I want to see in Alien movie. I almost fell out of my chair when the geologist tripped after the little cobra squid bled acid on his helmet and he fell right into the black goo. Yay!
For those of you who like this movie, you are stronger souls than me. I'll go crawl back under my iMac now. I apologize for not breathing or thinking way too hard about this movie. Oy, I can be such a fan girl some times.
signing off...
No problem. I've elected not to counter point by point, but I could counter many of them. Such as wanting to live forever is a common theme.
Much of this is personal tolerance and preference. As said in every horror movie, why do people do stupid things? So the audience can yell "don't"! David was excellent and he was neither Bishop or Ash, but closer to Ash. What he illustrates was an amoral android doing master's bidding on one hand, but willing to help Shaw at the end. No problem infecting her boy friend, to see what happens...
Btw, just in case you did not know, based on the face hugger location comment, this was LV233, not LV426, the location of the original Alien movie.
Here's a good Prometheus article: http://screenrant.com/prometheus-alien-connection-benk-176223/2/
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David actually did ask him, before handing out the poisoned portion, what he would be willing to do for finding answers. "Anything."
Fassbender's android was awesome imo. I love the scenes when he's alone before the crew got woken up.
Yeah, but that's not an adequate excuse to experiment on him without consent, I'm sure you agree.
I agree with your view of David. This movie is far from perfect, I have to make some excuses for it, but it's still an example of cinematic art. The cinematography and atmosphere are its best qualities, and the story is decent too. Human's have been known to change their minds. Although I'd object strenuously, I find it plausible that our creators could have decided to start the Earth experiment over.
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I just saw this scene on tv yesterday. Previous to this David was speaking to Weyland via "dream helmet" and Weyland told him to "try harder". So really Weyland and Dr. Holloway are the same only Dr. Holloway is at the mercy of David.
Of course he has a 'weyland' agenda. But we can't know how he'd reacted if the answer had been different. He stays very ambigious throughout the movie (see also his comment on 'everybody wants to kill their parents' etc). he's clearly not one sided and quite ambigious and that makes him stand out compared to the entire rest of the crew.
I agree that David his own mind and his own agenda, but it seems like he still needs a master. He started doing Dr. Shaw's bidding at the end of the film. He was my favorite character also.
Also Holloway says to David that "we just made you because we could" which about sums up what the engineers think of humans. They search for the answer of "why" and personally I agree with David that the answer is irrelevant but it pushes Shaw to travel to their home planet in search of it.
No problem. I've elected not to counter point by point, but I could counter many of them. Such as wanting to live forever is a common theme.
David was excellent and he was neither Bishop or Ash, but closer to Ash. What he illustrates was an amoral android doing master's bidding on one hand, but willing to help Shaw at the end. No problem infecting her boy friend, to see what happens...
Btw, just in case you did not know, based on the face hugger location comment, this was LV233, not LV426, the location of the original Alien movie.
Here's a good Prometheus article: http://screenrant.com/prometheus-alien-connection-benk-176223/2/
Like I said, a better movie watcher than me. You're right about the face huggers (I just remembered there were many ships but did all of them have the face hugger breeding vases or whatever they were.
I can suspend my belief for many a movie (and much worse than this), I suppose because it was Ridley Scott and an Alien prequel I expected something entirely different leading up to what we know. Those silly expectations.
I liked David (Fassbender was the highlight of the film acting wise.) As far as wanting more life, yes it is common, but the created wanting more life from his creator really rang Blade Runner to me, when Rutger Hauer visists Tyrell.
Like I said, I am glad you and others really enjoyed the film and the one or two posters dug the third Hobbit movie, that's cool.
I highly recommend it. I've must have watched it a hundred times over the course of 50 some odd years. I'm a huge fan of 1950's black and white sci-fi / horror "b" movies.
Sorry to say it isn't. I have it on DVD along with many others. I can put it share folder on my Copy account...that would be illegal, wouldn't it?
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Well, Exodus: Gods and Kings comes out tomorrow. Expectations are low, so I should be pleased. I just like seeing the CGI. Someday, there'll be a disaster movie with good acting
Bummer. But there are plenty of other like-films on Netflix to keep me happy.
I remember when movies like that figuratively scared the crap out of me.
I watched, The Thing From Outer Space and Caltiki, The Immortal Monster with a coat over my head... It was terrifying just viewing that alien humanoid form, and Caltiki, a blob wannabe, dissolve people, surprised I did not faint, lol.
I remember when movies like that figuratively scared the crap out of me.
I love the original Thing! and Caltiki, The Immortal Monster! I have both on DVD! I saw Caltiki in 1959 in the theaters with my aunt. It scared the hell out of me... It's the original Blob, except it left a skeleton which totally freaked me out!
I remember when movies like that figuratively scared the crap out of me.
I wasn't quite around at the time all of these were made,
but I recall watching many on Saturday afternoons as re-runs in the 1980's. Good times.
I saw it in the theater too. The amazing thing is that I was 7-8 years old, living in Anacostia, DC and I used to walk to the theater with my friends on our own on Saturday morning. I don't remenber if I saw it on its first run or not. I was 6 in 1959.
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I wasn't quite around at the time all of these were made,
You young whipper-snapper.
I saw it in the theater too. The amazing thing is that I was 7-8 years old, living in Anacostia, DC and I used to walk to the theater with my friends on our own on Saturday morning. I don't remenber if I saw it on its first run or not. I was 6 in 1959.
I was 7 in 1959. I was born May 2nd 1952. It great to see others here that have the same interest in classic black and white horror movies
"Shop Around the Corner" (1940) on Turner Classic Movies. This is the movie upon which "You Got Mail" was subsequently born from years later.