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You guys seriously think Apple has given up on the iMac? To me it seems the iMac roadmap will look as follows:

- (silent) refresh of current iMac to Ivy Bridge, USB3 and NVIDIA GPU and default SSD for higher-end models, coming Q2/Q3 2012
- complete redesign to Retina iMac, most likely dropping the optical drive and chin, Q3/Q4 2013. this will be the jaw dropping product for Apple for 2013 - mark my words.

Motivation:
- They are switching to NVIDIA. Hold-up for current refresh is availability of 680m.
- Technology to produce 27" Retina displays is still too expensive for a 2012 release.
- Why not at WWDC? Don't take away the attention from "the most beautiful computer we have ever designed".
 
You guys seriously think Apple has given up on the iMac? To me it seems the iMac roadmap will look as follows:

- (silent) refresh of current iMac to Ivy Bridge, USB3 and NVIDIA GPU and default SSD for higher-end models, coming Q2/Q3 2012
- complete redesign to Retina iMac, most likely dropping the optical drive and chin, Q3/Q4 2013. this will be the jaw dropping product for Apple for 2013 - mark my words.

Motivation:
- They are switching to NVIDIA. Hold-up for current refresh is availability of 680m.
- Technology to produce 27" Retina displays is still too expensive for a 2012 release.
- Why not at WWDC? Don't take away the attention from "the most beautiful computer we have ever designed".

This sounds very reasonable, though I'm afraid it's just something I want to believe at this point.
 
**** this ****. If we don't get iMac updates during this week I'm building a hackintosh pro. I'm not being held to ransom anymore.

Delaying things for a retina screen is just a joke. It's completely unnecessary.
 
Major changes like Retina, redesign, etc., can be great and are obviously necessary, but you must still keep the existing model current. You can't just ignore the existing models, like Apple has apparently been doing.
 
Waiting on the 680m sounds like a good excuse to me. I hope they do incorporate it, as it looks like one helluva GPU.

I seriously doubt they will use that card on the next iMac.
Why would they use it being it much more expensive that the amd 7970m

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**** this ****. If we don't get iMac updates during this week I'm building a hackintosh pro. I'm not being held to ransom anymore.

Delaying things for a retina screen is just a joke. It's completely unnecessary.

I'm thinking of going the same way.
In fact I already have the display, and I could use Desktop Graphics Cards!
Or the other think thing i was thinking is Mac Mini + build a desktop... almost for the same price as the top current imac.
 
People threatening to build a hackintosh should actually look into what it takes to do that. Picking hardware that works, downloading and installing kexts, etc. It's a lot more involved than what you may think and there's constantly the possibility that even a minor software update could brick your computer, making it necessary to reinstall the OS or trash a component on your computer if there's nothing you can download to fix it. It would be a tremendous change from what you're used to, using real Macs, and in my opinion, a much lesser experience than buying a used or refurb 2011 iMac if you need a computer right away.
 
What is apple doin down there in Cupertino? Screwing with us? First there's a new on Mac pro now they've taken that icon off it. What on earth
 
People threatening to build a hackintosh should actually look into what it takes to do that. Picking hardware that works, downloading and installing kexts, etc. It's a lot more involved than what you may think and there's constantly the possibility that even a minor software update could brick your computer, making it necessary to reinstall the OS or trash a component on your computer if there's nothing you can download to fix it. It would be a tremendous change from what you're used to, using real Macs, and in my opinion, a much lesser experience than buying a used or refurb 2011 iMac if you need a computer right away.

Have to agree with this post - Hackintosh is not for the faint hearted - you have to be a quite techy to take care of the whole thing. Also, whilst I can appreciate the frustration of waiting for a new iMac I'd hardly describe it as Apple holding people to ransom.
 
What about the iMac being refreshed this year!? Still nothing to confirm or refute that.

I'm sure they would've at least mentioned about a possible refresh this year, instead of only mentioning 2013...

They also said:

"new models and new designs are under way, probably for release in 2013."

New models could also mean a refresh...
 
- Technology to produce 27" Retina displays is still too expensive for a 2012 release.

I was thinking the same until I decided to extrapolate what that price would be. Basic idea is flat-panel display prices are little more than a matter of cutting glass to size (as I've read elsewhere) and noting you can charge more per inch for small screens.

Assuming exact same technology, the 27" price increase should, at worst, be just a matter of scaling the 15" retina panel's price premium. That's a 1.8x diagonal increase, crunch a little math and multiply the price premium of MBP retina over non-retina, and...

The base MBP 15" Retina is $2199, while the likewise equipped (8GB/256GB) MBP 15" Non-Retina is $2399.
That's paying $200 more and suffering a lesser display (half the video RAM to boot) just to get an internal OOD and a few cheap ports.

Wait, what?
 
I hope there is a spec bump, around the time of Mountain Lion's release, similar to Mac Mini last year. I can probably hold off for another 5/6 weeks tops and then will be forced into buying a refurb of the 2011 model as I just won't pay full price for year old technology.

I am reaching the stage of I need to buy.
 
I was thinking the same until I decided to extrapolate what that price would be. Basic idea is flat-panel display prices are little more than a matter of cutting glass to size (as I've read elsewhere) and noting you can charge more per inch for small screens.

Assuming exact same technology, the 27" price increase should, at worst, be just a matter of scaling the 15" retina panel's price premium. That's a 1.8x diagonal increase, crunch a little math and multiply the price premium of MBP retina over non-retina, and...

The base MBP 15" Retina is $2199, while the likewise equipped (8GB/256GB) MBP 15" Non-Retina is $2399.
That's paying $200 more and suffering a lesser display (half the video RAM to boot) just to get an internal OOD and a few cheap ports.

Wait, what?

It simply doesn't work that way... Apple always cleverly price their products so that it becomes more economical for the consumers to choose the higher-end products, and in the end they also make more profit.

Edit: Plus, the custom add-on's are total rip offs, configuring the MBP's that way just to make two models equal and to then compare the prices doesn't make much sense.
 
I am in the market for a new iMac at this point. I think i'll wait until Mountain Lion comes out to see if they will update the iMac this year. I doubt they would waste time preinstaling old iMacs with Mountain Lion and redoing all current stock if they were going to update it say only a month after ML came out. If ML comes out and the old iMacs are still around, i'll make the jump :)
 
Doesn't change a thing. The spec bump is coming, the new hotness is 2013.

What are you going to do forty2j? How long will you wait?

I think I'm still going to stick until the end of July but say we get to October or November and they still haven't refreshed?
 
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