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What to Expect From the 2019 iPhones: Hands-On With Dummy Models
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I can’t tell if you’re trolling. The Xperia is interesting though with 21:9 aspect ratio, 4K screen. I know cue the arguments that 4K isn’t needed on a phone. (Still want it though lol).
But more interesting is the alpha camera system and the tech that can carry down from Sony’s pro cameras. So far I haven’t heard too many great things though as software would tend to play more of a role in phone cameras.
This is why I wanted to see Apple venture into the mirrorless camera market. Missed opportunities.
I don’t really want 21:9 though. Too tall. It’s more a movie phone. However if you want the different looking phone to show off that’s probably a good bet.
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ur not right either.
Pretty sure I was. Android flagships aren’t capable of Dolby vision.
The other poster kept proving it.
And when he realized it, he lied and claimed he didn’t.
I even posted a screenshot.
Sure is.
Apples budget iPhone uses the same material as android flagships, aluminum and glass.
If your looking for something more premium, apples flagship, the xs and Xs Max, uses stainless steel and glass.
Sure your friends.
Don’t really believe you, in my experience the intel modem is great.
Yes the nvme storage is a high performance component, which makes it a premium component. Another component android flagships are lacking.
Apple uses faster and higher quality nand then what is found in that cheap Samsung drive, that’s why you can’t tell the difference between sata and the nvme.
Here is one that is a bit slower than what apple uses.
It’s not cheap like that Samsung drive with the weak performance you keep using as a benchmark.
https://www.pcmag.com/review/352086/lacie-bolt3
No Kirin is not comparable to apples a series chips, not even close. Quaclocomm can’t even compete with apple a series chip.
8 core npu is another premium component not found in any android flagships yet they still charge flagship prices, guess android fans dont care about having the best processor and npu on a mobile platform.
I would say it’s a pity that android fans pay iPhone prices for an android flagship with less premium components compared the the iPhone, but you don’t seem to mind, you seem to be quite defensive about it.
Sure android oems cloning the iPhone is totally normal.
We all know why android oems copy the iPhone and sell their iPhone clones and no it’s not because everyone does it.
Ahead of every new iPhone release, we're inundated with rumors, part leaks, mockups, and dummy models, all of which give us a good idea of what to expect when new devices launch.
2019 is no exception. We've seen all of the above, and now, we've managed to get our hands on three dummy models of the upcoming iPhones, which offer up a look at the designs and feature changes we're likely to see later this year.
Subscribe to the MacRumors YouTube channel for more videos.
Like the 2018 iPhone lineup, the 2019 iPhone lineup is expected to include three iPhones: a 5.8-inch OLED device, a 6.5-inch OLED device, and a more affordable 6.1-inch LCD device, which will be successors to the iPhone XS, iPhone XS Max, and iPhone XR, respectively.
Compared to the 2018 iPhones, there will be few physical design changes. In fact, these new iPhones look identical to the 2018 iPhones in size, shape, and design, with the exception of the rear camera.
The sole major physical change to the new iPhones is a redesigned camera bump that's larger and square-shaped, as we've heard in multiple rumors. Apple is expected to use a triple-lens camera setup for the 5.8 and 6.5-inch iPhones coming in 2019.
A triple-lens camera adds one additional lens and should result in some solid improvements to the photo taking capabilities of the new iPhones. Based on rumors from Apple analyst Ming-Chi Kuo, Apple's camera setup could include a 12-megapixel wide-angle lens, a 12-megapixel telephoto lens, and a 12-megapixel super wide-angle lens, which would be the new addition.
This triple-lens camera setup could allow for a larger field of view, a wider zoom range, better low light performance, and it will capture more pixels for sharper, clearer images even when lighting is not ideal. Note that the dummy models we have here feature lenses that protrude slightly -- in the finished versions of the 2019 iPhone models, the lenses are expected to be flush with the bump. These dummy models provide a solid look at what we're expecting, but the completed iPhone is going to look more elegant.
Google has received a lot of attention for its Night Sight mode that allows for bright shots even in the dark, and we wouldn't be surprised to see Apple offer a competing feature in 2019.
We've also heard from Bloomberg that Apple is working on a feature that would use some extra pixel data to do provide tools for automatically repairing a photo or video to fit in a subject that "may have accidentally been cut off from the initial shot." This sounds a little confusing, but it presumably takes advantage of that super-wide angle lens to let you edit the field of view of an image.
While the next-generation 5.8 and 6.5-inch iPhones will have the aforementioned triple-lens setup, rumors suggest the next iPhone XR will have just two lenses, which is still one more lens than the current model. Presumably this will include a standard wide-angle lens and a telephoto lens, allowing the iPhone XR to better mimic the capabilities of the current iPhone XS and XS Max.
Though the next-generation iPhone XR has just two lenses, the dummy model features the same square-shaped camera bump that's on the more expensive models with triple-lens cameras, which Apple may have done for design parity across the 2019 iPhone lineup.
2019 6.1-inch iPhone compared to iPhone XR
Aside from the rear camera bump changes, the three upcoming iPhones feature no other design changes, at least not in these dummy models. There were rumors that the volume button would be redesigned with a round-style switch that we've previously seen in iPads, but that's not depicted here.
These dummy models are based on schematics and leaks from Apple factories and are likely sourced from case makers eager to be the first to get cases for the new iPhones on the market. There's big money in getting an accurate look at upcoming iPhones to make early cases, and most years, dummy models like these are spot on.
iPhone XS volume buttons compared to 5.8-inch 2019 iPhone dummy
For the most part, these dummy models also are in line with most of the rumors that we've heard, so they're likely an accurate representation of what we can expect. There are no changes to the notch expected this year, though rumors suggest we could see some tweaks in 2020.
Display of iPhone XS Max compared to display of 2019 6.5-inch iPhone
Apple may, however, remove 3D Touch from the 2019 iPhone lineup. The 2018 iPhone XR did not have 3D Touch, and we've heard a few rumors suggesting 3D Touch will be eliminated from all iPhones in 2019. It's not yet clear if this is accurate, but iOS 13 does hint at its removal by adding 3D Touch-style Context Menus that can be activated on devices like iPads with a long press.
There were rumors that the new iPhones would use a frosted glass, also not seen in the models we have here. It's possible that a new glass look is still a planned feature and just wasn't included because material wouldn't impact case fit, but there's also a chance that rumor wasn't accurate.
For the next-generation iPhone XR in particular, while not seen in the dummy model, there are rumors of new colors including a lavender shade and a green shade, which might replace the existing blue and coral colors.
We heard other early rumors about the 2019 iPhones that no longer seem to be accurate. There was talk that Apple's triple-lens camera would have some 3D sensing functionality that would be similar to the TrueDepth camera system, but that's been pushed to 2020 and will be a major feature of the 2020 iPhones.
A render of the colors we could see for the iPhone XR successor
There was also talk of Apple switching from Lightning to USB-C in the 2019 iPhone lineup because the company brought USB-C to the iPad lineup, but based on these dummy models and a multitude of rumors, Apple's sticking with Lightning.
As for internals, we can expect an upgraded, faster A13 chip, and larger batteries could potentially bring some battery life improvements. One neat internal tweak will let the 2019 iPhones serve as Qi-based chargers for other devices, so you may be able to charge one iPhone with another or charge up your AirPods using your iPhone.
Faster Wi-Fi 6 support could be included in the 2019 iPhones, along with ultra wide-band support for improvements to indoor positioning and navigation. Apple may also include an 18W USB-C power adapter and a Lighting to USB-C cable with the new iPhones, allowing for fast charging out of the box.
There's no word on what the 2019 iPhones will be called, but many have taken to referring to them as the iPhone 11, iPhone 11 Max, and iPhone 11R, which is a possibility, though not confirmed.
As for pricing, Apple may be planning to price the new iPhones similarly to the 2018 iPhones as we've heard no rumors about pricing updates. There's still a chance for some pricing tweaks, though, as Apple did see a dip in sales in countries like China that's partially attributable to high iPhone prices.
Apple is expected to unveil the new 2019 iPhones in September, and an event could potentially be held during the week of September 9. MacRumors has heard from a reliable source that Apple is planning to unveil the new iPhones on Tuesday, September 10, which is quite likely given past event dates.
For more on what to expect from the 2019 iPhones, make sure to check out our full 2019 iPhone roundup.
(Thanks to Sonny Dickson for helping us get our hands on these dummy models!)
Article Link: What to Expect From the 2019 iPhones: Hands-On With Dummy Models
cant wait to hear the spin ole twisty face puts on this years overpriced underperforming ugly iphone offerings, that guy couldn’t talk straight if his face got ironed out
Ahead of every new iPhone release, we're inundated with rumors, part leaks, mockups, and dummy models, all of which give us a good idea of what to expect when new devices launch.
2019 is no exception. We've seen all of the above, and now, we've managed to get our hands on three dummy models of the upcoming iPhones, which offer up a look at the designs and feature changes we're likely to see later this year.
Subscribe to the MacRumors YouTube channel for more videos.
Like the 2018 iPhone lineup, the 2019 iPhone lineup is expected to include three iPhones: a 5.8-inch OLED device, a 6.5-inch OLED device, and a more affordable 6.1-inch LCD device, which will be successors to the iPhone XS, iPhone XS Max, and iPhone XR, respectively.
Compared to the 2018 iPhones, there will be few physical design changes. In fact, these new iPhones look identical to the 2018 iPhones in size, shape, and design, with the exception of the rear camera.
The sole major physical change to the new iPhones is a redesigned camera bump that's larger and square-shaped, as we've heard in multiple rumors. Apple is expected to use a triple-lens camera setup for the 5.8 and 6.5-inch iPhones coming in 2019.
A triple-lens camera adds one additional lens and should result in some solid improvements to the photo taking capabilities of the new iPhones. Based on rumors from Apple analyst Ming-Chi Kuo, Apple's camera setup could include a 12-megapixel wide-angle lens, a 12-megapixel telephoto lens, and a 12-megapixel super wide-angle lens, which would be the new addition.
This triple-lens camera setup could allow for a larger field of view, a wider zoom range, better low light performance, and it will capture more pixels for sharper, clearer images even when lighting is not ideal. Note that the dummy models we have here feature lenses that protrude slightly -- in the finished versions of the 2019 iPhone models, the lenses are expected to be flush with the bump. These dummy models provide a solid look at what we're expecting, but the completed iPhone is going to look more elegant.
Google has received a lot of attention for its Night Sight mode that allows for bright shots even in the dark, and we wouldn't be surprised to see Apple offer a competing feature in 2019.
We've also heard from Bloomberg that Apple is working on a feature that would use some extra pixel data to do provide tools for automatically repairing a photo or video to fit in a subject that "may have accidentally been cut off from the initial shot." This sounds a little confusing, but it presumably takes advantage of that super-wide angle lens to let you edit the field of view of an image.
While the next-generation 5.8 and 6.5-inch iPhones will have the aforementioned triple-lens setup, rumors suggest the next iPhone XR will have just two lenses, which is still one more lens than the current model. Presumably this will include a standard wide-angle lens and a telephoto lens, allowing the iPhone XR to better mimic the capabilities of the current iPhone XS and XS Max.
Though the next-generation iPhone XR has just two lenses, the dummy model features the same square-shaped camera bump that's on the more expensive models with triple-lens cameras, which Apple may have done for design parity across the 2019 iPhone lineup.
2019 6.1-inch iPhone compared to iPhone XR
Aside from the rear camera bump changes, the three upcoming iPhones feature no other design changes, at least not in these dummy models. There were rumors that the volume button would be redesigned with a round-style switch that we've previously seen in iPads, but that's not depicted here.
These dummy models are based on schematics and leaks from Apple factories and are likely sourced from case makers eager to be the first to get cases for the new iPhones on the market. There's big money in getting an accurate look at upcoming iPhones to make early cases, and most years, dummy models like these are spot on.
iPhone XS volume buttons compared to 5.8-inch 2019 iPhone dummy
For the most part, these dummy models also are in line with most of the rumors that we've heard, so they're likely an accurate representation of what we can expect. There are no changes to the notch expected this year, though rumors suggest we could see some tweaks in 2020.
Display of iPhone XS Max compared to display of 2019 6.5-inch iPhone
Apple may, however, remove 3D Touch from the 2019 iPhone lineup. The 2018 iPhone XR did not have 3D Touch, and we've heard a few rumors suggesting 3D Touch will be eliminated from all iPhones in 2019. It's not yet clear if this is accurate, but iOS 13 does hint at its removal by adding 3D Touch-style Context Menus that can be activated on devices like iPads with a long press.
There were rumors that the new iPhones would use a frosted glass, also not seen in the models we have here. It's possible that a new glass look is still a planned feature and just wasn't included because material wouldn't impact case fit, but there's also a chance that rumor wasn't accurate.
For the next-generation iPhone XR in particular, while not seen in the dummy model, there are rumors of new colors including a lavender shade and a green shade, which might replace the existing blue and coral colors.
We heard other early rumors about the 2019 iPhones that no longer seem to be accurate. There was talk that Apple's triple-lens camera would have some 3D sensing functionality that would be similar to the TrueDepth camera system, but that's been pushed to 2020 and will be a major feature of the 2020 iPhones.
A render of the colors we could see for the iPhone XR successor
There was also talk of Apple switching from Lightning to USB-C in the 2019 iPhone lineup because the company brought USB-C to the iPad lineup, but based on these dummy models and a multitude of rumors, Apple's sticking with Lightning.
As for internals, we can expect an upgraded, faster A13 chip, and larger batteries could potentially bring some battery life improvements. One neat internal tweak will let the 2019 iPhones serve as Qi-based chargers for other devices, so you may be able to charge one iPhone with another or charge up your AirPods using your iPhone.
Faster Wi-Fi 6 support could be included in the 2019 iPhones, along with ultra wide-band support for improvements to indoor positioning and navigation. Apple may also include an 18W USB-C power adapter and a Lighting to USB-C cable with the new iPhones, allowing for fast charging out of the box.
There's no word on what the 2019 iPhones will be called, but many have taken to referring to them as the iPhone 11, iPhone 11 Max, and iPhone 11R, which is a possibility, though not confirmed.
As for pricing, Apple may be planning to price the new iPhones similarly to the 2018 iPhones as we've heard no rumors about pricing updates. There's still a chance for some pricing tweaks, though, as Apple did see a dip in sales in countries like China that's partially attributable to high iPhone prices.
Apple is expected to unveil the new 2019 iPhones in September, and an event could potentially be held during the week of September 9. MacRumors has heard from a reliable source that Apple is planning to unveil the new iPhones on Tuesday, September 10, which is quite likely given past event dates.
For more on what to expect from the 2019 iPhones, make sure to check out our full 2019 iPhone roundup.
(Thanks to Sonny Dickson for helping us get our hands on these dummy models!)
Article Link: What to Expect From the 2019 iPhones: Hands-On With Dummy Models
That would be hilarious, a bunch of people show up outside Apple stores on launch day..... none of them actually go in the store.
Wow. Your erudition embarrasess the hacks that make up Apple’s design team. You speak as if you’ve been a working professional in designing technology for a very long time. I am impressed by your practical knowledge of technology. It’s very embarrassing for the hacks at Apple to never realize they can make the iPhone thicker to put in a bigger battery. I would nominate you as Apple’s new chief design officer because your education comes from first-hand, working knowledge.
That camera bump reminds me of a spider head.
Just what I want to think about when I put a phone in my pocket.
Smart phones are quickly becoming a commodity. If this is part of the final design, it's a sign of things to come. It's Kodak and GM all over again.....
I made the mistake of trading my X in early for an Xr. My Xr is nice and all, but wasn't worth the coin over the X. I'll probably have it for a long time.
There's just no place left to go with the features, etc....
Just what I want to think about when I put a phone in my pocket.
Smart phones are quickly becoming a commodity. If this is part of the final design, it's a sign of things to come. It's Kodak and GM all over again.....
I made the mistake of trading my X in early for an Xr. My Xr is nice and all, but wasn't worth the coin over the X. I'll probably have it for a long time.
There's just no place left to go with the features, etc....
Well this is Apples current modus operandi. A lot of the products seem to have been built with a view to increasing the price point rather than improving the user experience with components and materials selected with a view to justifying that price point.
I'm using an iPhone X in Space Grey, my girlfriend has the XR. The stainless steel adds basically nothing other than expense. Ironically the X seems to scratch and ding much easier than the Xr.
Still higher average selling price = happy Wall Street and that seems to be Apples primary concern these days.
That's an unusual marketing strategy that apple has. Increase the value of a product (and thus the user experience) and then charge proportionally more for it. Car manufacturers could learn a thing or two from apple. /s
Can't comment. My max and wife's Xr are both in cases.
No. I didn't mention the 'value' of the product I specifically cited the cost/expense and went on to say that for the most part the premium components used add nothing. You haven't quoted that part of the post so as to deliberately remove the context.
I believe the post was just spin. A lot of user experience in consumer goods is using premium materials, some also comes from adding value, which allows manufacturers to increase the price. Either way, my point stands a premium product is not a premium product unless it contains the proper materials and value for a user. You can discount that (which is where the spin is), but it's a part of the equation.
It seems Samsung adopted that strategy as well.
Apple knows the market is saturated and growing market share at this point really isn't possible without a race to the bottom. This is why to maintain the highest levels of profitability they need to focus on the high end market and cater to the rich folks who have the money to spend, not the mass market. These iPhones will do well at a high price for the market they are targeting even if they don't appeal to the mainstream.
My point stands also. Some of the premium materials used in these phones add absolutely nothing at all. Even in terms of design/fit and finish.
Generally the main benefit of Stainless Steel is that its more durable than Aluminum but I'm at a bit of loss as to the benefit of using that on a phone made out of glass particularly when you start coating it and making it prone to chips and scratches.
Sure your friends.
Don’t really believe you, in my experience the intel modem is great.
oh yeahhhh intel modem is so great apple dropped them for qualcomm next year and now intel is liquidating their modem business.
in my experience intel models have lower reliability, sure they can get fast when coverage is great but once i go to places where my qualcomm iphone gets 1 bar, the intel iphone gets none. thats why apple settled with qualcomm in qualcomm's favor, cause intel just can't compete in the 5g race and are now selling their entire modem business to unknown entities.
calling a 960 pro a cheap samsung drive just destroys any credibility you may/may not have lol. and for the record, samsung is one of the nand supplies for iphone and macbooks, in terms of reliability and speed, samsung nand is the leader of the pack,
https://www.macrumors.com/2017/07/06/apple-samsung-nand-flash-supply-iphones/
samsung 960 pro uses MLC, which completely destroys iphones' 3D NAND in terms of write endurance, your apple fanboyism bias is showing really, really bad here. anyone with who has a lick of knowledge about flash storage knows samsung 9x0 pro series are the benchmark when it comes to affordable prosumer NAND drives.
qualcomm and others can't compete against the A series, no one is disputing that, nor did i say anything of sort that lead any casualty to it, unless you do photoshop work on your iphone, which i doubt, majority of apps and stuffs you do on your phone won't be notificable in real world scenario. thats why most folks are still on their iphone 6s, 7, 8, x does not have the need to upgrade to the latest XS cause the a10, a11, are fast enough, same goes for samsung s7, s8, s9. hence the correlation that iphone XS and samsung s10 are struggling with sales, not because they are bad phones, but one of the reasons is consumer's current phones are fast enough they don't need to upgrade.
have you seen whats out there besides apple? apparently not because if you have with a non biased point of view, you will see there are alot out there and wouldn't dismiss android phones with that ignorant attitude of yours. apple is charging more for less features every year, but you don't seem to mind, you seem to be quite defensive about it
these direct iphone clones gets all the publicity cause it gives apple free publicity to show popular they are, but in actuality no one really buys them, its like counterfeiting gucci bags, they know they exist but no folks have them.
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You might want to ask Apple why they did use the materials they did. From your post it seems clear these materials add nothing of value, to you, and you believe these materials are solely the reason the Xs and max are at the price point they are?
Btw, it may surprise you the price of iPhones hasn’t risen that dramatically over the last few years(if you compare high end to high end), it’s just that people aren’t used to paying full retail.
exactly! stainless steel is like adding carbon brake option on a car, sure its better but not need it unless you taking your car to the track, or in iphone case, leaving your iphone in your pocket for a rugby game.
The premium components, stainless steel, 8 core npu, high performance “overkill” nvme based storage, and Face ID all offer value to the end user, whether you want to admit/accept it or not. iPhone sales reflect that.
Having said that, Apple could be more like android oems and sell flagship phones without any of these premium hardware components for the SAME price as their current flagships.
But then their premium sales would crater just like android oems.
Samsung Profits Dropped 60% In Q1 2019
https://www.tomshardware.com/news/samsung-financial-results-q1-2019-profits-fall,39210.html
Q2 isn’t going to be any better for Samsung or Huawei for that matter.
Samsung expects another big slump in profits
https://www.engadget.com/2019/07/04/samsung-earnings-guidance-q2-2019/
Huawei takes hit in Europe during Q2 2019
https://www.androidauthority.com/huawei-q2-2019-europe-1010233/
Pixels aren’t selling either.
https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2019/04/google-admits-pixel-3-sales-have-fallen-year-over-year/
did you even read the article? huawei taking a hit cause of trump's ban, not because their phone suck. huawei is the only brand that sold more last year than the year previous, where apple and samsung were in the negative.
You seem to be finally getting it.
Btw carbon ceramic brakes are much lighter and at the same time much more powerful. You can definitely feel the difference in day to day life.
How would you feel if you bought a car without the carbon brakes but for the same price as a car with carbon brakes. It’s kind of like that.
Now whether you want to take it to the track or rugby game that’s up to you.
These dummy models are irrelevant because we know Apple is likely going to make the area between the lenses transparent so that there won’t be a big black square on the back (except on black models of course). Secondly, can everyone just calm down. The phone hasn’t been been released yet. The final design will look better than these dummy models. Thirdly, the thing is that people just don’t like change. People complained about the vertical cameras of the X as well and now everyone is used to it and nobody thinks it’s ugly. In my opinion the cameras look fine when the glass is colour matched although I agree it does look a little unusual. Apple are doing this for a reason though - better photos. Everyone is always complaining that Apple puts form over function but when they go with a very functional design like this that doesn’t look quite as good everyone complains.
You seem to be finally getting it.
Btw carbon ceramic brakes are much lighter and at the same time much more powerful. You can definitely feel the difference in day to day life.
How would you feel if you bought a car without the carbon brakes but for the same price as a car with carbon brakes. It’s kind of like that.
Now whether you want to take it to the track or rugby game that’s up to you.
and you still don't get it!
but they are not the same price, so again your missing the point, lets try this again shall we?
iphone XR uses aluminium, part of the reason why apple said its cheaper.
iphone XS uses stainless steel, part of the reason why apple said its more expensive.
if i had the option to get carbon ceramic brakes for my s550 for the same price as my steel brakes i still wouldn't go for it simply cause they hella more $$$ to replace. unless you drive like a complete tosser on the road you don't need carbon ceramic.
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