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What We Learn From Leopard's Delay
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If the main goal of leopard is to integrate boot camp or parallels or any other attempt to allow me to run windows, then i don't want leopard.
A few people have said this now and frankly I dont understand why. How is being 4 months late with a bunch of (what we presume will be) great new features in any way comparable to Vista which was years late and didnt add anything new into the mix at all, just features every other OS already had and a bunch that were already available for XP anyways.
I personally don't care either way for Vista or Leopard, but Vista didn't start by being delayed for 2 years either. Just a few months at a time.
It is numerous places over at apple.com, one example is given below. Or do you want a signed letter from Steve Jobs.
Apple.com said:
If it is gonna be feature complete in June, what the hell do they need the other 4 months for?
Feature complete, meaning they've put in all the features. There may still be many bugs.
They appear to be changing a TON of the innards of the OS. So there could be many bugs. Maybe this means that Leopard will be EXTREMELY stable.
actually, I think i'll focus on speculation of hardware updates.
I'll automatically assume they will definitely come out at WWDC (i think apple said spring 2007 for hardware updates, didn't they?)
Then, I'll wait for the crushing PR statement saying the crappyapplephone has pushed out the release of new systems.
I'll automatically assume they will definitely come out at WWDC (i think apple said spring 2007 for hardware updates, didn't they?)
Then, I'll wait for the crushing PR statement saying the crappyapplephone has pushed out the release of new systems.
Yeah, after that PR announcement, they changed the word "Spring" to "October". Obviously getting it in writing doesn't support their claims any more than spit in a handshake.
With the new feature "Spaces" in Leopard, could Windows be run in a different desktop, or space? This seems like a good feature...
And about the delay... If anything it makes me happy that I didn't wait until Leopard to buy my iMac.
And about the delay... If anything it makes me happy that I didn't wait until Leopard to buy my iMac.
Evidence of Parallels Functionality?
I am the Sales Communications Coordinator for a company called Natural Products, Inc. (http://www.npisoy.com). We are contemplating migration to the Mac platform and recently bought a couple copies of Parallels for our employees with Macs to try out (I am one of them).
An Apple rep (at least he said he was an Apple rep) contacted the Director of Sales and Marketing at our company and asked him a series of questions concerning Parallels. When asked why he was asking the questions, the Apple rep expressed their interest in Parallels and said that they were working closely with it.
Whether or not this is evidence of an "integrated" parallels-like Bootcamp, I don't know. Just thought I would let you guys know.
I am the Sales Communications Coordinator for a company called Natural Products, Inc. (http://www.npisoy.com). We are contemplating migration to the Mac platform and recently bought a couple copies of Parallels for our employees with Macs to try out (I am one of them).
An Apple rep (at least he said he was an Apple rep) contacted the Director of Sales and Marketing at our company and asked him a series of questions concerning Parallels. When asked why he was asking the questions, the Apple rep expressed their interest in Parallels and said that they were working closely with it.
Whether or not this is evidence of an "integrated" parallels-like Bootcamp, I don't know. Just thought I would let you guys know.
I do believe this is the first "official" delay in a Mac OS release in 4 years? The delay is 4 months. A bit different from either Longhorn or Vista.
The excuse is a pretty good one too. About to release a "truly revolutionary and magical" device expected to sell a million units a month at a very high profit margin.
Oh . . . and just released a FREE update to OS 10.4 (10.4.9) for all users to enjoy.
Oh . . . and now MOVIES on iTunes and DRM free music too. Be very careful what you wish for. Steve wants you to have it as soon as "practical".
Rocketman
The excuse is a pretty good one too. About to release a "truly revolutionary and magical" device expected to sell a million units a month at a very high profit margin.
Oh . . . and just released a FREE update to OS 10.4 (10.4.9) for all users to enjoy.
Oh . . . and now MOVIES on iTunes and DRM free music too. Be very careful what you wish for. Steve wants you to have it as soon as "practical".
Rocketman
Now that actually sounds like a sensible idea, for those that need Windows but don't want their virtual Win box in an annoying nested window...
Perhaps the finer points would be seamless interaction between the Windows Space functionality and the other Spaces... *shrug*
Yes, I'm worried about that as well. Moreover, I think the 8 core MP needs Leopard to properly manage all those cores' behavior with one another. This is part of why I imagined the next FCP 6 and Extreeme would need both the 8 core and Leopard to work properly and fully. Wondering now if they can start selling a FCS 6 that will work with 10.4.9 but reveal a bunch of new features once we get Leopard installed.
I am in the same boat. Apple has basically committed to announcing FCS 6 and it seems only logical that it will heavily utilize the new features in Leopard. I think that sadly we are going to see a blow away demo, and then they will drop the funk bomb on us that it won't ship until after Leopard.
The 8 core Mac is almost a joke in the pathetic speed increase for the $$. It needs much more memory bandwidth, and has a large memory bus bottleneck. That combined with the half way support for multi cores on Tiger means it will be a long time before my G-5 Quad gets replaced. This summer I will install 4 internal 500 gig drives and stripe them. I will see if that gives it a kick in the pants. I suspect it will. I have a Raptor 10k as a boot drive now but it is too small even to fit all of my applications on.
Apple need to stop mucking around with expensive trinkets and pump out some decent stuff for people who actually do heavy video and graphics work.
All this boycott the iPhone nonsense is really tiresome. Honestly, grow up people. Posting on an Internet forum is not going to change anything.
Personally I don't care that much about a delay in 10.5, but what I want to know is how this affects the new supposedly redesigned iMac. I was waiting for announcements of this new one before I got one, since I'm ready, though my PB G4 1.33 is still working fine.
So doesn't anyone think that the new iMac could still come out sooner than Oct., or is there a reason that it has to come out along with 10.5?
Thanks.
So doesn't anyone think that the new iMac could still come out sooner than Oct., or is there a reason that it has to come out along with 10.5?
Thanks.
Developers.
Phil Shiller doing the Ballmer Sweaty Monkey Dance screaming DEVELOPERS, DEVELOPERS, DEVELOPERS, DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS.........
All this boycott the iPhone nonsense is really tiresome. Honestly, grow up people. Posting on an Internet forum is not going to change anything.
Then why did you post this? it's not going to do anything.
I don't see why they would delay a hardware update just so it comes with the new OS. It would make more sense to release it now to compensate for the delay.
IF the redesigned iMac even exists, that is.
Ditto!! At last a post with some guts -- I can't believe the amount of whinging that has occured as a result of the delay!
I appreciate as Apple users we carry a considerable amount of passion for the Mac platform and its associated OS... But c'mon, people - this little puppy is going to be four months behind the targetted time-frame at the most!!
Yes - Apple could indeed delay once again; should that happen then I feel we can justifiably start slinging the mud!
Vista was years behind schedule, and to add insult to injury not complete from where MS anticipated the feature set to fall. And now with their 'tricks' of Vista OEM only builds come January they [MS] have certainly begun to feel the heat with the b*lls-up that they so poorly set and played out!!
The above simply can't be said of Apple - personally I'd rather wait and feel somewhat more assured that 10.5.0 is a 'solid' release, whereas the same couldn't be said of Tiger in its 10.4.0 guise! Never suffered the problems myself, but looking around the various Mac sites it was clear issues were indeed aplenty!
My only real concerns are the imminent release of FCS6 and its apparent requirement of Leopard for the Core duties... That side will be interesting with respect of how it's handled!!
So c'mon people - deep breaths, calm down and relax... ;-)
True I guess, but I got the feeling from rumors that new features in the new iMac might take advantage of new features in 10.5. Of course rumors are rumors. I'm just hesitant to get one now since I could totally see a new one being released right after.
What piece of hardware would require the new OS?
Spaces, time machine and Core Animation (for example) do not require specific hardware.
Unless you mean the touch-screen feature which I do not expect. :/
That's one of them, yeah.
Personally I could care less about touch screen, but still, new stuff is new stuff....
The only things we learn from this delay is that they don't seem to have enough developers and that OS X is not the priority anymore.