OP, you are WAY too funny and too cool to be worrying about this jerk. Don't let him get to you!!!!
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What would be the best way to handle a fight?
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OP, you are WAY too funny and too cool to be worrying about this jerk. Don't let him get to you!!!!
I was picked on in school because I was abnormally shy. Easy pickens. Momma told me not to fight. I Love my Momma so I didn't fight. I had Johnny Wolf run by me & throw a hocker in my face and knock my books in the snow on the way home from school one day. I got mad. I cried. I was embarrassed.
Steve Lee put a tack on my chair and I sat on it. Everyone laughed. Easy pickens. I cried and hated Mr. Winters class with a passion.
Easy pickens to the wolf-like animals who pack up & prey on nice decent kids.
Doug Ryan used to sit behind me and flick my ears. Everyone laughed. One day he shoved an orange Dreamsicle down my back at lunch. Everyone laughed. I went berserk and almost killed Doug Ryan. I got an in-school suspension for two days. He got out of school suspended for two weeks. He needed that time to heal.
I never got in another school fight again, ever. True story and no names were changed to protect the guilty.
Still can't eat a Dreamsicle to this day either.
Nah, if the guy keeps hitting him he can't just let it continue. My point was that there's something wrong with the logic; if they both decide it's unacceptable to let someone hit them and they respond by hitting, there's a circle going that won't be broken until someone gets seriously hurt.
Actually, I think adults in a school environment need to wake up and learn to be aware when there are tensions going on. It's their responsibility to be aware of the dynamic among the students and prevent students from being bullied. A kid shouldn't have to choose between tattling or fighting. Bullying is serious, and can leave physical and emotional scars. But I know from experience that most teachers are too naive, or they don't want to have to deal with it. My experience is that too many of them choose what they see.
I'm not trying to prolong the debate about violence/non-violence here, I realise most people in this thread don't agree with me and I'm fine with that. Just wanted to answer you since you asked what I really meant.
I hear what you're saying, and in a perfect world, that would be best. It is something adults need to work toward. Unfortunately, the OP is most likely going to have to stand up to this guy himself.
We have schools who suspend eagle scouts for a month for having a pocket knife in their survival kit locked in a trunk (which I find hilarious because we had kids with shotguns loaded up in their truck rear windows in the school parking lot). Just letting the OP know of the consequences.
I'd just eat his veg.
But the next time he slaps you in the face just put all your weight behind it and punch him in his face back. More importantly you need to think of a witty comment after that, anything from Die Hard will do. Yippy-kay-ay would be over the top unless you just exploded him.
But the next time he slaps you in the face just put all your weight behind it and punch him in his face back. More importantly you need to think of a witty comment after that, anything from Die Hard will do. Yippy-kay-ay would be over the top unless you just exploded him.
If that's the case or could be the case then the OP might do well going to his school counselor with interesting phrases like "unwanted sexual advances" and "hostile learning environment" and "lawyer". Probably get dealt with real quick.
Most of the advice here is pretty salient.
Don't ever, EVER, be the start of a conflict. The very best thing you can do is have multitudes of credible, unbiased witnesses when and if things get dirty. Very clearly, unambiguously be seen as the one who did NOT instigate.
However, I have a very low tolerance for physical violence and I hate with a burning passion the small minded wastes of carbon that bully and torment others in high school. I've been through that, and I won't go into it on a computer forum, but suffice it to say you have to have a stiff upper lip and realize where the high ground is.
In a physical confrontation, what has been stated previously is absolutely true: strike immediately and with full force, without regard to what position it puts you in. Everyone has a Hollywood idea of what fights are like. They seldom last long, and it generally is not a Fight Club exchange.
No one messes with an insane person. So, fight like it. Go insane. No limits, no reserves, nothing held back, nothing that says you are anything less than willing to eat this person's internal organs. Nearly all animals and sentient beings alike realize when they've lost, and then the escape panic hits. Your goal is to put this fear into your opponent, and continue mercilessly beating them until you are tired, or the cops/paramedics show up.
However, reality is a bitch, so here's a few things to consider.
As asinine as this sounds, do not do permanent damage to someone's eyes, as this seems to fare poorly for those who do in court. Do not punch someone purposely in the temples, as this can cause comminuted skull fractures and laceration of the middle meningeal artery, causing almost certain death unless recognized by a physician promptly. A strong hit to the orbit (eye socket) can cause orbital blowouts, many of which can cause permanent visual damage. Hitting the nasal or lacrimal bones and drive bone fragments into the frontal lobe, and striking to the throat and cause collapse of the larynx, leading to asphyxia.
It is, however, very difficult for all but the strongest persons to cause liver perforation, splenic perforation, or GI ruptures with a simple fist beating, although kicking with boots has been shown to.
Just a few thoughts.
Give 'em hell if he asks for it, but go to all lengths, at your wits' ends, to avoid this circumstance.
Don't ever, EVER, be the start of a conflict. The very best thing you can do is have multitudes of credible, unbiased witnesses when and if things get dirty. Very clearly, unambiguously be seen as the one who did NOT instigate.
However, I have a very low tolerance for physical violence and I hate with a burning passion the small minded wastes of carbon that bully and torment others in high school. I've been through that, and I won't go into it on a computer forum, but suffice it to say you have to have a stiff upper lip and realize where the high ground is.
In a physical confrontation, what has been stated previously is absolutely true: strike immediately and with full force, without regard to what position it puts you in. Everyone has a Hollywood idea of what fights are like. They seldom last long, and it generally is not a Fight Club exchange.
No one messes with an insane person. So, fight like it. Go insane. No limits, no reserves, nothing held back, nothing that says you are anything less than willing to eat this person's internal organs. Nearly all animals and sentient beings alike realize when they've lost, and then the escape panic hits. Your goal is to put this fear into your opponent, and continue mercilessly beating them until you are tired, or the cops/paramedics show up.
However, reality is a bitch, so here's a few things to consider.
As asinine as this sounds, do not do permanent damage to someone's eyes, as this seems to fare poorly for those who do in court. Do not punch someone purposely in the temples, as this can cause comminuted skull fractures and laceration of the middle meningeal artery, causing almost certain death unless recognized by a physician promptly. A strong hit to the orbit (eye socket) can cause orbital blowouts, many of which can cause permanent visual damage. Hitting the nasal or lacrimal bones and drive bone fragments into the frontal lobe, and striking to the throat and cause collapse of the larynx, leading to asphyxia.
It is, however, very difficult for all but the strongest persons to cause liver perforation, splenic perforation, or GI ruptures with a simple fist beating, although kicking with boots has been shown to.
Just a few thoughts.
Give 'em hell if he asks for it, but go to all lengths, at your wits' ends, to avoid this circumstance.
I can confirm the eye thing I've only punched someone once during a fight (and I've been in many) the kid already had one bad eye that stared off into space--I took out his good one and as a result both of his headlights are out of whack. Still didn't change his rotten bullyish attitude towards others though, but he left me alone. I don't prefer throwing punches unless it's in a boxing ring Ive been in there too--and there's a difference between a match and a fight before anyone jumps to conclusions.
I'm sure I'm gonna piss people off by saying this but when I was in high school I loved to fight! I never started the fight or even looked for one! I was skinny, never was one for exchanging words so people thought they could mess with me....bad idea. the only fight I ever lost was because it was me vs. 3 others, and let me just say that I didn't go down alone, I was sent to the hospital and I took one with me.
I sit here now thinking back on how bad things could have been, it wasnt worth it.
But your situation is different. You've tried to avoid confrontation and he continues.
So if you must fight, I agree with previous posts, strike first and strike hard! This is not the movies, there are no rules, if he know s karate, all that means is that he's a good stand up fighter, take it to the ground. Take him down and go crazy, nobody messes with a crazy person.
With that being said, violence should be your last resort. If you can avoid a fight do so....fighting is serious and can turn for the worst.
Good luck!
I sit here now thinking back on how bad things could have been, it wasnt worth it.
But your situation is different. You've tried to avoid confrontation and he continues.
So if you must fight, I agree with previous posts, strike first and strike hard! This is not the movies, there are no rules, if he know s karate, all that means is that he's a good stand up fighter, take it to the ground. Take him down and go crazy, nobody messes with a crazy person.
With that being said, violence should be your last resort. If you can avoid a fight do so....fighting is serious and can turn for the worst.
Good luck!
Not to mention legally. If he's got a chum nearby who'll back him up if he tells a lie, you're up the creek. Not to mention if you begin fighting and go even a little bit overboard you may face charges, unless you have witnesses who'll back you up.
It's not a fair world, but that's the way it is.
As most of you know, I have severe anxiety problems which I mostly contribute to being bullied throughout middle school. I used to be extremely happy in sixth grade and the least shy person you would ever know. I guess not everybody liked me and I was bullied by a couple of people, I lost my confidence and gradually more people bullied me and people started talking behind my back and here I am going to therapy sessions to try and cure my anxiety attacks whenever I go to a party.
Don't do what I did do and do nothing.
Don't do what I did do and do nothing.
We are talking about a sophomore in high school here with no fighting experience. you can pretty much disregard all of these as highly improbable, if this kid was beastly enough that he was going to cause skull fractures I don't think he'd be worrying about a bully.
Fighting is not good. But, if you need to defend yourself...hit him the nose as hard as you can. He wont ever mess with you again. Why the nose? His eyes will water and he'll be powerless....cant see and it will hurt like hell. Plus it will blacken both of his eyes. This should be a last resort of course....
I grew up fighting.....never looked for it. Just dont like people that run their mouths. But after you win a few, the next toughest guy wants a piece of you because you've made a name/reputation and your stuck.
Sometimes being passive is good. A lot of trouble comes from fighting. You sound like a good kid. Just stay away from this guy. But if he backs you in a corner.....let him have it.
I grew up fighting.....never looked for it. Just dont like people that run their mouths. But after you win a few, the next toughest guy wants a piece of you because you've made a name/reputation and your stuck.
Sometimes being passive is good. A lot of trouble comes from fighting. You sound like a good kid. Just stay away from this guy. But if he backs you in a corner.....let him have it.
Plenty of good (and some amusing) advice in this thread for you to choose from. I will say though that I'm betting he's not really a black belt. It is exceedingly rare to find someone under 16 with a black belt in anything. I think he just prefers to scare people so that they don't know how scared he really is. People who have trained in martial arts have a lot more quiet confidence than that. People who have spent several years training and learning respect (which includes NOT underestimating opponents) and learning to control themselves are not generally the bullying type. A responsible martial arts instructor is not going to train someone who is a loose cannon. None of it adds up to me. If by some very unlikely chance he does actually have a black belt or some substantial martial arts training AND he instigates a proper fight, he's going to be in a lot of legal trouble. That being said however, I don't recommend instigating a fight yourself.
What is a bunch?
Just sneak up on the guy from behind and kick him in the back of the legs, the keep kicking him all over until you think he has got as much as he deserved
*I am not responsible if you end up getting the crap kicked out of you, if it goes wrong*
*Also I am being semi-sarcastic*