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SMS on a laptop. I would jump ship to windows if android and windows could figure out a way to seamlessly send messages.
 
I already have new Android phones so switching back completely to Android is just as simple as popping out my SIM card.

The most recent keynote made me pretty annoyed but iOS 11 killing my current iPhone’s battery has made me LIVID! I’m angry enough at Apple to make this the last iPhone I ever own, throw all my Apple products up on eBay, switch back to Android and give Apple the finger. Seriously.
 
When Vanilla Android has all the features of Samsung flagship software, a processor more powerful than Apple’s A Series, with a fully integrated ecosystem and family of products including Watch, laptop, TV, tablet and phone, and hardware designed and controlled by Google.

Then I’d consider going android full time. Short of that android will always be a hobby with Apple being my main tech.
 
When Vanilla Android has all the features of Samsung flagship software, a processor more powerful than Apple’s A Series, with a fully integrated ecosystem and family of products including Watch, laptop, TV, tablet and phone, and hardware designed and controlled by Google.

Then I’d consider going android full time. Short of that android will always be a hobby with Apple being my main tech.

Google just bought out HTC (smartphone division) and will be making their own hardware for an upcoming Pixel smartphone(s). They have the Pixel C. They can easily make their own watch as well.

All the pieces are falling into place for Google to be the new Apple of Android and go toe to toe with Apple on a complete, immersive user experience.

Just sit back and watch...
 
I can put up with no headphone jack. There's very little that Apple can do on their design to switch to Android except one, and that's eliminating the physical connection for charging and data. I could see Apple going to a totally wireless setup, where you would have to use iCloud to backup or restore your phone. Thanks but no thanks, I'm not about ready to fork more money over to Apple for a 50 or 200 GB data plan.
Already happened.

1. Headphone Jack
2. Still no USB-C
3. Notch on iPhone X
4. Price on iPhone X killed it. ($1500 once all set and done).
5. iOS locked down O/S with less features than the competition.

I've moved on to a Note 8 now and don't regret it. Although my whole family still has iPhones, I'm the only stray right now.
 
Google just bought out HTC (smartphone division) and will be making their own hardware for an upcoming Pixel smartphone(s). They have the Pixel C. They can easily make their own watch as well.

All the pieces are falling into place for Google to be the new Apple of Android and go toe to toe with Apple on a complete, immersive user experience.

Just sit back and watch...
Despite all that, we won't see Google get any more serious on smartphones. Getting HTC was partly for the intellectual properties, same as when they bought Motorola. And we know how Google ditched Motorola afterwards.

Google makes money from ads, simple as that. If they were actually serious in making phones, they would have done that with Motorola, but nope. Besides, consider how the OEMs like Samsung would react if Google really pushing out real competitive hardware. The pixel is a joke. It has less features and less support than iPhone, but same price.
 
Being very fluent in both is what works the best for me. IOS is wonderful but can get very boring. A nice Android fix for however long is my ticket to variety. Best of both is best for me. Both are excellent.
 
Already happened.

I've moved on to a Note 8 now and don't regret it. Although my whole family still has iPhones, I'm the only stray right now.

I did that about a year ago, purchased a Galaxy S7, and then recently traded it for an S8. But I could not give up my iPhone due to the seamless integration with all the Apple stuff within my family. I've been using both phones, and it is a hassle. I am waiting for iPhone X, and hope that the screen is good enough for me to go back to mainly using iPhone.
 
Despite all that, we won't see Google get any more serious on smartphones. Getting HTC was partly for the intellectual properties, same as when they bought Motorola. And we know how Google ditched Motorola afterwards.

Google makes money from ads, simple as that. If they were actually serious in making phones, they would have done that with Motorola, but nope. Besides, consider how the OEMs like Samsung would react if Google really pushing out real competitive hardware. The pixel is a joke. It has less features and less support than iPhone, but same price.

The pixel was a first effort. Nexus' was maybe better depending on who you ask. Pixel will mature and get better. Pixel 2 will be a big seller. I think Google has every intention of making their own phones or they wouldn't have bought HTC's phone side. They wern't ready when they bought Moto. Maybe a management thing. Or to much money to know what to do with it all. The Google experience in a more vanilla Android is popular and only going to become more so. Lots are getting tired with all the bloatware that carriers and Samsung include. HTC has fallen by the wayside. The Chinese phones are not that popular here yet and I'm not sure any of them work on Verizon, the largest carrier.
I recall several years ago it was being said that we would be able to buy any phone we wanted and it would be able to work on any carrier. We're moving more in that direction now. Google is a popular brand for sure. It will definitely be very successful at making phones.
 
Despite all that, we won't see Google get any more serious on smartphones. Getting HTC was partly for the intellectual properties, same as when they bought Motorola. And we know how Google ditched Motorola afterwards.

Google makes money from ads, simple as that. If they were actually serious in making phones, they would have done that with Motorola, but nope. Besides, consider how the OEMs like Samsung would react if Google really pushing out real competitive hardware. The pixel is a joke. It has less features and less support than iPhone, but same price.

Pretty much. Google can't get too entrenched in hardware without alienating OEM's, and Google as a company is fickle. The term "Google Graveyard" isn't baseless. You take a major risk of being an abandoned early adopter if Google get's bored with your purchase. That can get expensive, and infuriating.
 
Camera quality is worse compared to comparable sized smartphones, software buggy and not stable, other competitors out-innovating and out-designing Apple.
 
Not seeing anything right now that would make me switch. I keep an open mind though and will evaluate my needs and look at all options out there. Thus far though, nothing has given me reason to switch. I choose Apple/iOS based on hardware, software, ecosystem, security, and support.
 
Since April I have wanted to jump ship to the s8/s8+. I decided to wait it out to see what apple was offering. Of course, like last year, apple slightly disappointed me with not only the lack of design change for the 8/8+ but also the price of the X.

I am torn. I have a 6+ now and it has served me well and continues to do so, but I long for a better camera. I opted out of the 7/7+ upgrade last year because of the back order and the fact that the design didn't do it for me (in hindsight would have gotten the 7+ and held onto that until 2018). Plus having better internals doesn't hurt.

I am also kind of bored of iOS, but it works an works well. iMessage is a plus with my family all having it, plus answering texts on a mac. I however have been migrating towards google services so a transition to android would't be as tough.

So, with that said: Need a better camera: 8/8+ s8/s8+ and X offer that. Design: s8/s8+ and X offer that (samsung sightly better). integration: iOS wins, but google services will help ease the pain if I go android.

Wildcard: get the s8/s8+, after several months if it isn't for me, sell it, cut losses, go back to iOS with most likely the x.
 
I would migrate to Android if privacy became superior.

I agree that Apple does a great job with how they value security and privacy with one's information on the iPhone. In today's world, there so much personal and private information on the phone, security is absolutely crucial in so many ways.
 
I agree that Apple does a great job with how they value security and privacy with one's information on the iPhone. In today's world, there so much personal and private information on the phone, security is absolutely crucial in so many ways.

Totally agree here. I want all of my personal information to remain private. I don't trust Android to do so unless they make some major changes.
 
Already happened.

1. Headphone Jack
2. Still no USB-C
3. Notch on iPhone X
4. Price on iPhone X killed it. ($1500 once all set and done).
5. iOS locked down O/S with less features than the competition.

I've moved on to a Note 8 now and don't regret it. Although my whole family still has iPhones, I'm the only stray right now.

The first 3 on this list doesn’t really bother me but the 4th and 5th seem to annoy me a bit. That and the fact that the 8+ doesn’t seem like much of an upgrade even though coming from the 6s it is. In hindsight I’d rather have gotten the 7+ a while back with the 128gb of storage and waited to see what Next year would bring.
Side note: Is the X going to really be that scarce?

Since April I have wanted to jump ship to the s8/s8+. I decided to wait it out to see what apple was offering. Of course, like last year, apple slightly disappointed me with not only the lack of design change for the 8/8+ but also the price of the X.

I am torn. I have a 6+ now and it has served me well and continues to do so, but I long for a better camera. I opted out of the 7/7+ upgrade last year because of the back order and the fact that the design didn't do it for me (in hindsight would have gotten the 7+ and held onto that until 2018). Plus having better internals doesn't hurt.

I am also kind of bored of iOS, but it works an works well. iMessage is a plus with my family all having it, plus answering texts on a mac. I however have been migrating towards google services so a transition to android would't be as tough.

So, with that said: Need a better camera: 8/8+ s8/s8+ and X offer that. Design: s8/s8+ and X offer that (samsung sightly better). integration: iOS wins, but google services will help ease the pain if I go android.

Wildcard: get the s8/s8+, after several months if it isn't for me, sell it, cut losses, go back to iOS with most likely the x.

I agree with your statements. Although I don’t use iMessage.
To be honest I don’t use any of the Apple features much (and I plan on keeping my iPad). I simply like Apple for the ease of use on their device and being able to plug in and have my device mirror my last device.
I use FaceTime occasionally but I can still access that via my iPad so not a total loss there. :) IMessage I don’t use, don’t use iCloud either. Don’t use my Apple TV and I cross sync anything across multiple platforms. That’s the reason I’m thinking a Samsung device might be the way to go.
Can’t find too much wrong with Apple outside of the fact is they seem to be a bit behind in certain areas of tech/design.
This whole 8+ and X and iOS 11 is what is prompting me to switch.
I’m holding back due to partially wanting to see the x and my 6s is still ticking, not mention I got the aw Stainless series 2 less than a year ago.

However with all that said if I can mirror most of my alerts on Samsung like I can on my 6s, get a bigger better screen, more apps for free, more features, a watch that looks like a real watch... the that might be the way to go. I’d also admit I’d miss this system and setup here but, it’s just missing something for me.
I’m not big on the s8+ only coming in with 64gb of memory but I’m also not big on Apple not having a mid tier, and I still have about 25-30gb free so I think I can work with a 64 still. Only other reason I’m not rushing to a Samsung is I’m not the biggest fan of the curved screen. Wish it was all flat but I’m leaning towards it so we’ll see what happens.

I will finalize my thoughts with this, I’m a creature of habit and once I switch eco systems I not big on getting everything setting back out and running again on a new platform hence this is why this is my 2nd iPhone in a row. I’ve had Apple for 3 1/2 years and had a 4s before that when I briefly switched to Samsung and dropped it because of that lag which if I experience that again I’ll be using an iPhone for the foreseeable future.
 
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Nothing would make me leave Apple for Android. Why would I want to give up Apples smooth, extremely secure system for a very fractious, unsecure Android system?

I understand that there are people who like to play with, and tweak their operating systems. Just as there are people who like to play with their automobile engines to get that last bit of horsepower out of it or get another decibel of sound out of exhaust system. That’s not me, I own my vehicle just to get me from point A to point B as expeditiously as possible. I like Apple’s “walled garden” concept that just allows me to just do what I want as simply as possibly.
 
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