It's a bit more than short term pain if other accounts you rely on use your iCloud email for access. If you can't access your iCloud email because Apple cut you off, how do you get the things you may need to access your other accounts that use that email address?
Totally agree. Ternus will stay the course and double down on everything about today's Apple. Cook built a cash machine and Ternus isn't going to rock the boat. The biggest problem with Apple's UI/UX work these days is that they've basically thrown out the human interface guidelines. They are completely and totally undisciplined in that area and have been for years now. It all started with (ridiculously overrated) Ive's redesign of iOS and has been a downward spiral ever since. I don't expect much to change under Ternus. I'm hopeful that he might take software quality more seriously, but I don't expect any major changes in how Apple operates or the kind of products it releases.
I probably wasn’t clear how I worded things. I meant if they did lock my account (this is the long-term pain) and I nuked all Apple stuff, the short term self-inflicted pain would be my voluntarily walking away from the things that still worked like Messages and Find My. My feeling is Apple would have already f’d me quite severely, my walking away would incur further inconveniences, but nothing as bad as the initial account lock. Hope this makes more sense in what I was trying to say the first time. 🙂
Yes, that makes it more clear thanks.
And the fact Tim Apple isn’t going anywhere, he’s still going to be Chairman and can (or will) have a lot of influence on how the company is run. The Board in the past fired Steve (or persuaded him to leave), so ultimately the CEO answers to the Board. That said I think Tim will be a supportive Chairman and hopefully has the same trust and respect for Ternus that Steve had for Tim.
100%. The Board ultimately runs the show and if they're not happy with the CEO's performance, they'll fire him. Apple is a very mature company at this point. Untold millions of people are invested in Apple through their retirement accounts. Apple prints money, breaking records quarter after quarter. Ternus might prove to be a great CEO, but he certainly isn't going to make any major changes to how Apple operates.
I always used me.com email mainly because it was the shortest email domain (I also still have my live.com email from my Microsoft days). I also used it because I was concerned Proton or Startmail could go out of business randomly some day or they could encounter a country/legal issue that could impact the service, and I didn’t want to self-host because of laziness and the modest cost vs free. But… being reminded how easy it is for AI or mistakes or not so transparent policies to be seemingly arbitrarily enforced and cause significant disruption and inconvenience, I’m now reconsidering either using my Startmail email or even self-hosting. I also recall during the CSAM debates about some guy with a Google account trying to send pics of his baby/toddler to the doctor and he got flagged as having CSAM and lost access to all his Google stuff. I’m not sure if that was a hypothetical example or urban legend, but if true, it is nearly impossible to get a human to help resolve these kinds of issues.
There was a time where I had more email addresses than I have fingers. But slowly, over the years, as texting largely took the place of email, things have been whittled down to a small amount. I do have three Gmail addresses and three iCloud email addresses. But oddly enough, the Gmail addresses aren't used much either - just like my iCloud addresses.
You may find yourself asking yourself at some point why you didn't do it earlier. While not every third party service is equivalent to what Apple offers, there are some that I find to be better or less complicated. And being cross-platform can be a major benefit.
Nice, funny thing is I genuinely think the leasing program is designed to trap people.
That is something that I have been thinking over. I wouldn't be leasing the phone and then paying to own it, I would merely be leasing, then returning it, then leasing again.
In short, there's no good deal. The only way to make an iPhone more affordable is to keep it longer. Buy it outright and take advantage of someone's financing deal to pay over time. It's the same phone whether you buy it from Apple, Best Buy, or Walmart. So go with whoever gives you the best 0% financing terms. And once you've paid it off, keep it. I keep my iPhones for 4 years usually. I'm on a 15 Pro Max now and, other than having a new shiny bauble, I don't really see any reason to upgrade. It's all just incremental upgrades year after year at this point. The days of major advances between models are long gone.
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Honestly I don’t think I’d ever leave.
That’s fair although finding an M series Mac at $250 is most likely never going to happen.
The other aspect of how much a phone ultimately costs is the service one uses. I was tired of paying nearly $100/month for my phone service and decided to try Visible. The first six months were a bit rocky, but I've now had it for three years and it's been great. I pay $32/month vs. $100.
That’s a fair point.
Oh, I wasn't talking new. And I wasn't talking like in a year or so.
I buy my phones outright and unlocked from Apple. On a 3 to 4 year refresh. I do this so I can change carriers at will and not enter carrier contracts. I went from paying $145 or so per month for two lines with Verizon to $46/mo with US Mobile in 2020 (plan is unlimited talk/text/high speed data and 50GB tethering - and more tethering data and international data are dirt cheap). US Mobile lets me switch to which network I want whenever I want to and they offer AT&T, Tmo, and Verizon networks. I currently use Verizon’s network but when I visit Seattle colleagues, I switch to Tmo as it seems to work better downtown. There may be use cases for people to use/pay for AT&T, Tmo, or Verizon, but I’ll never use them again as the service I get with an NVMO has been just as good at least in my case.
Ah, that makes more sense.
Governments don't always needs to provide backdoors or need to weaken phone privacy to get people's data. Much of the time its just about controlling what apps they use and removing privacy tools that might help them. Having a 'secure app' doesn't mean much when it can be taken away from you and you can't download the same app elsewhere like you can with andriod.
It hasn’t because, for one, RCS only rolled out to some very new versions of iOS, so any family member on older iOS is stuck. Next, I’m still prettty sure rcs still breaks group iMessages. It is absolutely deplorable that companies were allowed to build proprietary messaging on top of the default app, it creates both interoperability issues and ecosystem lock in issues.
