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This has been a very interesting argument to follow. People here range form those who hate all children and what they do, to those who say bad children are the product of bad parenting, to those who think that kids are kids and everything they do is fine, to those who support rowdy children and blow off their out-of-control behavior.

I once was listening to a woman arguing with a guy about how her kid had been sent home from school for being out of control. She actually blamed the school for not teaching her kid how to act, then actually said "It's not *my* job to teach him how to behave. That's the school's responsibility." She took absolutely NO personal responsibility in her child's behavior, and refused to think she should even be expected to. THIS is how many of these problem children are brought up.

Obviously, there are true accidents with children who may just be kids having fun, and something gets broken or someone gets hurt. But it's a completely different story when some kids are running amuck in something like a furniture store, climbing all over things, and ramming into people. That is NOT OK. Anyone who condones this type of behavior is a symptom of the problem. There is a time and place for "kids to be kids", and there are plenty of other places where kids should behave and be seen and not heard.

If anyone does not believe this to be the case, I feel sorry for those who have to deal with the kids of yours.
 
I would do nothing if it was an accident.

I had my iphone connected to my PC the day I got it and my daughter accidentally caught the cable and knocked the phone onto the floor - and it was tiles, not carpet :eek:. I told her to be more careful, checked for damage and moved on. :)
 
I would do nothing if it was an accident.
I had my iphone connected to my PC the day I got it and my daughter accidentally caught the cable and knocked the phone onto the floor - and it was tiles, not carpet :eek:. I told her to be more careful, checked for damage and moved on. :)
It is different with your daughter, because:

1) She is your own child, it is not like it was a random stranger's phone, it was your own.
2.) He was not acting in an obnoxious way (as far as I can tell), and wasn't in an area where other people (strangers) and their property could be damaged.
3.) The phone wasn't actually broken, it just fell.

But would you do nothing if the random kid in the store was acting in a way that was not acceptable for the location, ran out from behind an isle into you, breaking your phone beyond repair? Would you be fine with the fact that it would not be covered under warranty and you would have to pay the price for a new iPhone (which could end up being the unsubsidized price, up to $499)?

If it were a pure accident that was not anybody's fault, or of equal fault between both people, then I would not do much of anything. But in this hypothetical situation set by the OP, the issue is a kid acting in a way that he should not have been acting in, and broke your phone while it was completely his fault.
 
Sorry, just reread the OP properly :eek: In the scenario set by the OP, I would be demanding the kids parents replace my phone and compensation for the hassle.
It is okay, I was just somewhat surprised that you said that you would not do anything at all, I cringe for other's people's iPhones that I see fall, yet alone my (yet to be purchased:eek:) one.
 
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Religious indoctrination is a good example of child abuse. Spanking is not. ...Providing its use is justified, and not gratuitous, and used only as a punishment for bad behaviour after reasoning with them fails to achieve the desired effect.

Good luck to those who are raising their children like Lynette off of Desperate Housewives - you'll be visiting them in prison soon enough if you don't teach them right from wrong!
 
ok. Why is it your place to judge me for NOT liking kids. There ARE people in this world who just choose to tollerate children while they are out and about and choose to never have one in their homes permamently.

I am really just DONE with this conversation. You are insanely over reacting to my dislike for children. I love my pets though

I bet it's cats......
 
Seems like a lot of child abusers in here.

Very true. there is all kinds of child abuse going on these days.
A child being raised without being taught right from wrong.
A child being raised without being taught to respect others and adults.
A child being raised without being taught what and when appropriate and acceptable behavior is. I could go on, but i think you get the point.
 
I know you think the parents should pay for it but you can't force them to pay for it or take them to court. Same with the example of the car. You can only take legal action if you can prove it was intended criminal damage of your car. Otherwise you should have it insured incase something like that happens, thats why people have insurance.

It depends. If the kids are old enough to be responsible, they have to pay if it was their fault. If the kids are not old enough to be responsible, and it is the parents fault for not watching them properly, the parents have to pay. If the kids are not old enough to be responsible, and the parents did watch them properly, then it is nobody's fault. Tough luck. That is a rare case.
 
Find the parents and ask them to pay for the damages. Kids aren't supposed to run in a furniture store. (or any other store)
 
Very true. there is all kinds of child abuse going on these days.
A child being raised without being taught right from wrong.
A child being raised without being taught to respect others and adults.
A child being raised without being taught what and when appropriate and acceptable behavior is. I could go on, but i think you get the point.

the worse is threatening or scaring a child.
 
the first mental image that comes to mind...


Home Simpson (me) choking Bart (hypothetical child of Doom), gritting his teeth and saying "you little..."
 
I would brutally murder the kid in as heinous a way as possible. Afterwards I would confess and accept whatever sentence I was given for it.
 
no, i would make the PARENTS pay for the damages.. and if i were the parents, i would make the kids work off the cost of the damages... but yea, the parents NEED to learn to control their kids in public and if their kids break things, they NEED to be held responsible.

I am SICK AND TIRED of kids running aorund like crazy in public places. I saw two kids playing tag inside a restaurant. NOT ACCEPTABLE!! i also want to trip ANY kids i see wearing WHEELIES!

i believe they're called heelies
 
Seems like a lot of child abusers in here.

Seems like a lot of politically-correct types here pushing their pacifist agenda.

When I was a kid, most schools were authorized to give kids a good whopping on the bottom if they were thought to deserve it, the amount of mental problems were not significantly different from today, and the juvenile crime rate was lower.

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Seems like a lot of child abusers in here.

And yet, not enough child molesters...

How far will $300 go these days with a hooker? Whatever it is, it would be about the same I'd expect from one of the children, they would be frightened enough that they would follow you into the restroom for fear of being told on to their parents.
 
iGary, you got it spot on.

You do something bad, especially damaging other peoples property you deserve a hiding.

Kinster, please tell us your not one of the bunch of wacko's that thinks you can actually reason with a 6 year old?

That sort of thinking is the reason society, especially in the UK is in such state. And people wonder why 8 year olds go around shooting their parents.
 
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