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Love my iPhone, but lately it has become so boring and iOS 11 doesn't do anything new.

I just had a bad experience at an Apple Store, so I'm really angry right now, but that aside, yeah, nothing really new in iOS 11.

I'm sorry to hear you had a bad experience at an Apple Store. I'm sure that was frustrating. I know I would want to provide some feedback to the store leadership if that happened to me.

I've very excited about iOS 11. Screen recording alone is a major update. Apple's made it so simple, it's going to be huge! Also the control center has become much more configurable, powerful and easier to use. Since beta 3, now that you can force touch into Home, it's great to be able to change your scenes without having to open up the Home app.

And while Apple may not always be the first to introduce a new technology, their implementations are typically very well thought out from the user perspective. There isn't another mobile platform like that.
 
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Apple inverts the icons for languages that read right to left instead of left to right, and it should be fixed in a later beta.

Didn't realize this, that's pretty cool. One of my favorite parts of Apple products is the language support; they were early to game with this and generally are better or at least as good in the implementation of this, even though they're now behind sometimes in number of languages supported. The multi-language suggestion bar is one of my favorite parts of iOS 10.
 
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I'm sorry to hear you had a bad experience at an Apple Store. I'm sure that was frustrating. I know I would want to provide some feedback to the store leadership if that happened to me.

I've very excited about iOS 11. Screen recording alone is a major update. Apple's made it so simple, it's going to be huge! Also the control center has become much more configurable, powerful and easier to use. Since beta 3, now that you can force touch into Home, it's great to be able to change your scenes without having to open up the Home app.

And while Apple may not always be the first to introduce a new technology, their implementations are typically very well thought out from the user perspective. There isn't another mobile platform like that.

All I see is a control centre that is more confusing for lots of users and some new icons
 
Apparently, the current day Apple doesn't give as much thought to their UI's details as they do their hardware. While one guy is tweaking a micro-detail such as the line thickness on the WiFi symbol, another is screwing up the Reminder app's icon so that it doesn't resemble the actual app's layout therein. Why are the completion buttons on the righthand side of the icon?

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Its explained in the article which no one read I guess...
 
Beta 4 has been pretty good so far. One thing I noticed on my iPhone was the app switching animation, when opening an app already in the background, it seems to come to the front like it does on the iPad. More of a slide-from-the-side. First time I noticed it on the iPhone, at least this specific animation. All of the animations seem a little different. Like they've added an 'ease' to them.
 
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The Reminders and Contacts on the Home Screen looks to be mirrored for some reason. I'm pretty sure that's not how they should look. But I do like em!
 
The Reminders and Contacts on the Home Screen looks to be mirrored for some reason. I'm pretty sure that's not how they should look. But I do like em!
Since they are tweaking the icons, I hope they use the radial gradient for Safari like in High Sierra. Tiny details for consistency make me a happy chap. :)
 
The Reminders and Contacts on the Home Screen looks to be mirrored for some reason. I'm pretty sure that's not how they should look. But I do like em!
New icons - Apple has introduced new icons for the Contacts, Notes, and Reminders app. Some of the app icons may be bugged for some people, showing certain details, like bullets for Reminders, on the wrong side of the icon. This is because Apple inverts the icons for languages that read right to left instead of left to right, and it should be fixed in a later beta.
 
All I see is a control centre that is more confusing for lots of users and some new icons

What is happening with the UI...

It's like looking at my parent's phone in terms of accessibility settings, but with a more "kiddy" feel. Not to mention control center definitely removes all context of whatever you were doing before bringing it up.

Do we need giant bold font telling us what app we just opened? Especially when it takes up 1/3 of the screen.

Were people confused before, assuming that they couldn't already tell they were in the messages app through common sense, by the (still bold) title in the center of the screen?

Now... we are at this:

http://wccftech.com/ios-11-beta-vs-ios-10-visual-comparison/

Control center is going to be unusable by so many people. My parents can hardly understand it in iOS 10 (they have a flashlight app still, for example, rather than using control center).


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The UI is horrible on the iPad. Here's a very simple example. Let's say I am reading a book and I want to change the screen brightness. On iOS 10, I can see in real time how the iBooks app will look if I change the brightness. On iOS 11 this is impossible. Here's the full process on iOS 10, and then on iOS 11.

iOS 10

- Swipe up from bottom
- Brings up control centre overlay whist still preserving the content of your app underneath
- Change the screen brightness with the slider
- See in real time how the app looks when adjusting the brightness slider
- Touch anywhere else on the screen, or swipe down on the control centre, to get directly back to your app.

iOS 11

- Long swipe up from bottom (which is more physically demanding) to access control centre
- The app you were in is minimised, several other apps are shown alongside this app in minimised form, and there is a strip on the right hand side with the control centre buttons
- Change the screen brightness with the slider
- Not able to see in real time how the app you were in looks when adjusting the brightness slider, because the app is now minimised, alongside several other apps, in the app expose
- Click on a specific (and quite small) area on the screen where the app has been minimised, in order to open it back up again
- Potentially discover that the alteration in brightness wasn't sufficient (because you weren't able to see the change in the app that you were using in real time) and then repeat the whole process again until you get the desired level of brightness.
 
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Can anyone tell me if on this public beta they have fixed the END PHONE CALL button? For example your phone is locked and you receive a phone call and you talk for a little while. When done with the conversation you go to hang up but the phone is locked and there is no button to end the call so you have to use TouchID to unlock the phone to end the call. Then you have to tap the green bar at the top because it takes you to the home screen instead of the call screen. THEN you can end the call. This is the most infuriating thing to me. It still does it on iOS 10.3.3 that just came out. It is very distracting when trying to end the call when driving especially but is extremely annoying no matter when it does it.

Im not 100% sure if this is when I receive a call and talk for a bit or after I make a call and talk for a bit. Either way though I nearly always have to touchID back into the phone before I can end the call and there is no other way to end it... of course inevitably my finger is sweaty or whatever and doesn't want to TouchID properly which just adds to the aggravation.

Do any of you have the same experience? Is something wrong with my phone? Is this present in the latest beta build?
 
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Your phone is locked and you receive a phone call and you talk for a little while. When done with the conversation you go to hang up but the phone is locked and there is no button

Here is the solution. When this happens, you just need to tap the phone number or contact name displayed on the lock screen, and you will get the call controls back. No need to touchID back into the phone :). Drove me crazy until I found the solution. I joined MacRumors just to answer your question!

I really hope they fixed this because it makes no sense at all to hide call controls!
 
iOS 11

- Long swipe up from bottom (which is more physically demanding) to access control centre
While technically more ‘physically demanding’, I seriously hope the extra inch or two of that swipe motion isn’t that much of a burden.

- The app you were in is minimised, several other apps are shown alongside in this app in minimised form, and there is a strip on the right hand side with the control centre buttons
- Change the screen brightness with the slider
- Not able to see in real time how the app you were in looks when adjusting the brightness slider, because the app is now minimised, alongside several other apps, in the app expose

While yes, the apps take up a smaller portion of the screen, I’m still quite easily able to see how changing the screen brightness directly impacts that app. Even better, I can see how changing the brightness impacts 3 other apps or app pairings.

- Click on a specific (and quite small) area on the screen where the app has been minimised, in order to open it back up again
- Potentially discover that the alteration in brightness wasn't sufficient (because you weren't able to see the change in the app that you were using in real time) and then repeat the whole process again until you get the desired level of brightness.

If you one has some vision accessibility concerns, I can certain see (sorry, no pun intended) how the changes would be less than ideal but otherwise, I don’t agree with this complaint, or at least see it as significant as being positioned here.

On the iPhone however, I’ll completely agree since there are is no app ‘Expose’ to use to gauge the changes.
 
While technically more ‘physically demanding’, I seriously hope the extra inch or two of that swipe motion isn’t that much of a burden.

It definitely is a burden. The new long-swipe action does not feel as effortless as the swipe-up to bring up control centre in iOS10.

While yes, the apps take up a smaller portion of the screen, I’m still quite easily able to see how changing the screen brightness directly impacts that app. Even better, I can see how changing the brightness impacts 3 other apps or app pairings.

Different apps may necessitate different levels of brightness. As such, it doesn't make sense to look at how brightness impacts 3 or more apps at the same time. For example, I might be reading a on a black screen, with white text, in iBooks. I decide to turn up the brightness to full so that I can see the text clearly. Next, I change to safari and it turns out the brightness level (that I used while reading on iBooks) is too high because safari's interface (along with most websites) is dominated by white.

It is much more difficult to have to locate the app (that was in use before swiping up for control centre) in the app expose, alongside several other opened apps, to check how the brightness looks in the app that a user was in, and then to click on the specific area in the expose where that app is positioned to get back into the app once you're done with control centre. The changes to control centre in iOS 11 pull you you out of your content, and reduce the ability of users to see real time changes in a specific app

If you one has some vision accessibility concerns, I can certain see (sorry, no pun intended) how the changes would be less than ideal but otherwise, I don’t agree with this complaint, or at least see it as significant as being positioned here.

I don't have vision accessibility problems, but these issues are still of concern to me.
 
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I have had no significant (battery drain, heat) problems since dev beta 2. Rocking an iP7 Plus.
 
The UI is horrible on the iPad. Here's a very simple example. Let's say I am reading a book and I want to change the screen brightness. On iOS 10, I can see in real time how the iBooks app will look if I change the brightness. On iOS 11 this is impossible. Here's the full process on iOS 10, and then on iOS 11.

While I understand your basic point, the iBooks app has a brightness slider built in--you don't need Control Center at all.
 
Anyone else have issues with iMessage on iPad? Wont mark a lot of messages as read, and keeps the conversation marked as such. I have to check on another device to clear the flag.
 
While I understand your basic point, the iBooks app has a brightness slider built in--you don't need Control Center at all.

The same logic applies to any app. I used iBooks as an example in this case, and you rightly point out that there is a brightness slider built in. So, perhaps iBooks was a bad example. But the majority of apps don't have inbuilt brightness sliders.
 
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Apparently, the current day Apple doesn't give as much thought to their UI's details as they do their hardware. While one guy is tweaking a micro-detail such as the line thickness on the WiFi symbol, another is screwing up the Reminder app's icon so that it doesn't resemble the actual app's layout therein. Why are the completion buttons on the righthand side of the icon?

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Okay, did you read the article?
 
When you open a document that’s actually in a mobile book format, there is a brightness slider when you press the “Aa” button in the upper right hand side. It changes the brightness in real time and doesn’t obscure the view. That can’t be said or other apps though.
 
When you open a document that’s actually in a mobile book format, there is a brightness slider when you press the “Aa” button in the upper right hand side. It changes the brightness in real time and doesn’t obscure the view. That can’t be said or other apps though.

Correct, but that's already been acknowledged (see below).

The argument about control centre pulling you out of your app content still stands. If users want to change something quickly on control centre (e.g. turning on mute), they shouldn't have to be completely transported out of the app that they are in. iOS 10 allows you to do these things without pulling you out of your content.

iOS 10 also allows users to see in real time how changes made in the control centre (e.g. altering brightness) will impact the app that users are currently in; this functionality has been reduced in iOS 11.

The same logic applies to any app. I used iBooks as an example in this case, and you rightly point out that there is a brightness slider built in. So, perhaps iBooks was a bad example. But the majority of apps don't have inbuilt brightness sliders.
 
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