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What is wrong with you people?!?!? The question was: what is the first thing you will do WHEN the quarantine is over yet all of you have derailed this thread. Stick the topic. (Good idea)

Mods please get involved here as this thread has lost its way.

The question is What is first thing your will do NOW that the quarantine is over.

When and now , quite different.

Easy to derail a thread without accuracy, I guess.
 
Of course walking through a store isles past dozens of people is much safer than walking into a place then sitting down at a table away from everyone. 🙄

You have to look at the exposure risk across a longer period, say a week. If I go to the grocery one time, supply up for a week, I have no further exposure. Additionally, I can confirm the handling of the food both pre and post preparation, including all the peripheral exposure vectors like plates, silverware, napkins, the table, seating.

Not to mention, even if you eat out one day, for one meal, you've still got to account for the other 6 days - or - 20 meals [(7 * 3) - 1], so either you're eating out all those days (which I'd contend is a significantly higher exposure risk vs. one grocery trip at off peak hours), or, you're supplementing your eating out with a grocery trip and then you've done both (while I've only done one), compounding your exposure.

Look, I'm not commenting on your choice, but just casually dismissing one thing as "just as bad", because you prefer the other is a bit disingenuous.
 
Well, it seems us Finns have done such an amazing job socially distancing ourselves (i.e. being ourselves), that the current rate of infections has been lower than predicted by just about anyone. This obviously means that the curve has not so much been flattened, as it has just been bumped a few months forward. Which in turn means, that if the current restrictions are held in place, the peak of the epidemic will just shift forward until such time that the restrictions are lessened in one fell swoop which would mean pandemonium. So it seems we're currently aiming for three smaller pandemoniums, as it were, meaning that restrictions will be lessened little by little so that not everyone catches it at the same time, and the capacity of the ICUs will suffice.

Now, obviously the above is an educated guess on one particular scenario by healthcare professionals, but still, if I still had hair it would turn gray, fall off, spontaneously combust, regroup as a bad toupee and climb back up on top of my head because of all of this.

So yeah, I have no idea what I'll do when the quarantine is over, other than I need to get to work as soon as humanly possible. Might have to look for a new job, which sucks royally. I have three hugs that I'd really like to get rid of, but who knows how risky that'll be and for how long.
 
I think the OP may have lacked sensitivity. Thread should have been titled 'Whats the first thing you are going to do now the quarantine is over in some US states'. So there is nothing wrong with 'you people' (lovely turn of phrase that), everyone understands you are still living with lockdown. I apologise for being mildly offended by the thread and taking part in the derailing. So let's just hear from the minority who are actually out of quarantine.
 
I don’t think anyone who chooses to stay inside should be judged. This is a free country and if they stay home, it’s up to them. They shouldn’t be peer pressured into going out or anything like that. None of my friends are staying home but if one did I wouldn’t think badly of them or give them a hard time about it.

I’m glad America is back open for the most part and don’t mind the local rules. They’re in place to help keep us safe.

Bars, salons, restaurants, etc are open and they’re full where I’m at, and I’m glad to be living basically like normal again.

I never thought I’d be happy to be stuck in traffic for hour, but it was nice to Snapchat all the cars, which was nice to see again.
 
You have to look at the exposure risk across a longer period, say a week. If I go to the grocery one time, supply up for a week, I have no further exposure. Additionally, I can confirm the handling of the food both pre and post preparation, including all the peripheral exposure vectors like plates, silverware, napkins, the table, seating.

Not to mention, even if you eat out one day, for one meal, you've still got to account for the other 6 days - or - 20 meals [(7 * 3) - 1], so either you're eating out all those days (which I'd contend is a significantly higher exposure risk vs. one grocery trip at off peak hours), or, you're supplementing your eating out with a grocery trip and then you've done both (while I've only done one), compounding your exposure.

Look, I'm not commenting on your choice, but just casually dismissing one thing as "just as bad", because you prefer the other is a bit disingenuous.

Yes and no. The bad thing of everyone "staying in" is that I have to go to the grocery store virtually every other day in order to find what I need for a family of four. (plus, we're helping another individual). Granted, I could live on Campbell Soups, Ramen noodles, and Spam - but not only it would probably kill me but it wouldn't even be worth it. The bottom line is that grocery stores keep getting depleted because no one is acting "normally". I have never been to the grocery store as often as I have been during the lockdown. I used to go once a week, find everything I need, and I was fine. Now? Impossible, so I have more opportunities to get exposed way more to Covid-19 than I was back in January.
The truth is that it wildly depends on where you live.
 
Yes and no. The bad thing of everyone "staying in" is that I have to go to the grocery store virtually every other day in order to find what I need for a family of four. (plus, we're helping another individual). Granted, I could live on Campbell Soups, Ramen noodles, and Spam - but not only it would probably kill me but it wouldn't even be worth it. The bottom line is that grocery stores keep getting depleted because no one is acting "normally". I have never been to the grocery store as often as I have been during the lockdown. I used to go once a week, find everything I need, and I was fine. Now? Impossible, so I have more opportunities to get exposed way more to Covid-19 than I was back in January.
The truth is that it wildly depends on where you live.

I'm not comfortable going to the grocery store. They're super crowded, and everyone's stressed out.

I would rather just get food delivered. Luckily, I'm on a diet anyway, so a protein shake, some egg whites, frozen vegetables with soy sauce...it goes a long way right now haha.

The one thing I can't live without is Starbucks, and I think it helps curb my appetite, give me energy to exercise, and hopefully burn fat as well. So I've been going there but I feel safe.

Thanks to quarantine I've lost between 9-10 lbs. That's all I really need in terms of weight loss. I'm just focusing on getting toned overall, and fat burn through cardio and just staying super active.

For my cheat meal it's been frozen pizza, usually at 3 AM when I'm starving lol. Boy is it a treat :)
 
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Yes and no.

Clearly, everything I said was contextual to your situation, and in yours, I still wouldn't think a restaurant was an improvement which was the original assertion.
 
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Clearly, everything I said was contextual to your situation, and in yours, I still wouldn't think a restaurant was an improvement which was the original assertion.

Not sure we're on the same page here. I said myself that it depends on the location, so yeah - I understand why you wouldn't want to go to a restaurant in NYC (by the way, beautiful pictures, thank you for sharing them). The bottom line of my post is that there are really no absolutes.
 
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@yaxomoxay Hahaha, that was mostly due to me being lazy and not making a separate post *snort*

The other day (different site) I had a carry over quote, different thread, I let it fly, confused the heck out of everyone ...
 
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Yes and no. The bad thing of everyone "staying in" is that I have to go to the grocery store virtually every other day in order to find what I need for a family of four. (plus, we're helping another individual). Granted, I could live on Campbell Soups, Ramen noodles, and Spam - but not only it would probably kill me but it wouldn't even be worth it. The bottom line is that grocery stores keep getting depleted because no one is acting "normally". I have never been to the grocery store as often as I have been during the lockdown. I used to go once a week, find everything I need, and I was fine. Now? Impossible, so I have more opportunities to get exposed way more to Covid-19 than I was back in January.
The truth is that it wildly depends on where you live.
Exactly. Shortages either have you running to more stores which increases exposure, or you come back each day hoping they have it. Pickup/delivery would be nice if you could actually get a reasonable time slot if at all, and if they didn't lie about being out. My wife tried pickup and they said like half the stuff was out. She went inside and found it all. And not even similar items. The exact items. That doesn't help limit exposure either.
 
Exactly. Shortages either have you running to more stores which increases exposure, or you come back each day hoping they have it. Pickup/delivery would be nice if you could actually get a reasonable time slot if at all, and if they didn't lie about being out. My wife tried pickup and they said like half the stuff was out. She went inside and found it all. And not even similar items. The exact items. That doesn't help limit exposure either.

Allowing a substitute item can be sketch lol.

order pasta sauce, get ketchup :D
 
Exactly. Shortages either have you running to more stores which increases exposure, or you come back each day hoping they have it. Pickup/delivery would be nice if you could actually get a reasonable time slot if at all, and if they didn't lie about being out. My wife tried pickup and they said like half the stuff was out. She went inside and found it all. And not even similar items. The exact items. That doesn't help limit exposure either.


People who generally get stuff delivered anyway via online orders to the behemoths are also having to scout around and keep going back to see if certain items are stocked again yet. Also Walmart at least has been shipping from locations all around the country for timely fulfillment of a single order.

Bizarre to get a box of crackers from California and something else from Texas and something else from Maine. My carbon footprint is starting to keep me awake at night and I'm having more stuff delivered from Instacart locally instead to restock the last few things I usually restock my pantry with after winter, even though it costs a little more to do it that way.

I've put enough recyclable cardboard out for the trash/recycle pickup in the past couple months to insulate the walls of a slung-together hunting cabin. Can't stand the guilt of a box of crackers taking a jet ride from sunny Cali to someplace on the east coast before it gets trucked to a local depot and then finally lands on my back porch.
 
People who generally get stuff delivered anyway via online orders to the behemoths are also having to scout around and keep going back to see if certain items are stocked again yet. Also Walmart at least has been shipping from locations all around the country for timely fulfillment of a single order.

Bizarre to get a box of crackers from California and something else from Texas and something else from Maine. My carbon footprint is starting to keep me awake at night and I'm having more stuff delivered from Instacart locally instead to restock the last few things I usually restock my pantry with after winter, even though it costs a little more to do it that way.

I've put enough recyclable cardboard out for the trash/recycle pickup in the past couple months to insulate the walls of a slung-together hunting cabin. Can't stand the guilt of a box of crackers taking a jet ride from sunny Cali to someplace on the east coast before it gets trucked to a local depot and then finally lands on my back porch.

The key for me has been not to be too picky.

Rather than browsing for items I want, I just browse what they have and pick.

Usually they have everything I want though.

Honestly, the service has been beyond excellent.

We are privileged, like an emperor, to have food delivered right to our door, whatever we want

Live in LA and want crackers from NYC? No problem just have the jet bring it right over lol
 
I suspect that the OP is actually a resident in one of the southern states which has already reopened pretty much all the way, and so therefore he is not dealing with some of the situations that are having a serious impact on people in more severely-affected parts of the US, such as the entire NYC/NJ/CT area or the DC/MD/VA area.

Aside from that, yes, people all around the US have still been having to deal with what's available and what's not (temporarily) available at their local grocery store and when, along with the recommendations for wearing a mask and gloves while shopping (although I imagine that these recommendations have been loosened, too, in the not-so-heavily populated areas of this country?).....

For me, online shopping (even for some foods!) has been a real blessing, and I've gotten what I needed or wanted without fuss or muss. Local delivery has worked fine for pizza and such but I haven't gone beyond that.

Unlike some people have mentioned on this forum about their shopping habits, I have significantly lessened my trips to local stores. As someone living alone I don't need to have a whole bunch of food available every day for everyone in a household, it's just me, and I'm not interested in preparing gourmet meals for myself anyway, so I'm able to limit my grocery store visits so that it can be as long as a week or more before I ever set foot in one, and when I do I just deal with what I alone need and want that is actually available at that time and move on.... I realize that I'm really fortunate in not having to deal with what families do....

Fortunately for me at the time this all started I was already well-supplied with a lot of household essentials including the all-important toilet paper, due to my years-long-habit of starting to stock up and add a little extra to my purchases during the late autumn and moving into the winter months in anticipation of inclement weather where I would not want or actually be able to get out for a while. That strategy has sure paid-off big time during this pandemic!

For me this whole pandemic thing has undoubtedly been much less stressful than it has been for others since I don't have a lot to manage when it comes to a family, nor, because I am very much an introvert, do I care all that much about when things reopen, getting out and mingling with others in various social situations, especially those involving being in bars or restaurants with strangers.

All of us have our own approaches to this whole totally unique and different situation which seemingly came out of nowhere and really zapped us. Now worldwide, we've just got to sort out how to keep people healthy and alive and how to keep the economy moving forward as well..... These next several years are going to be challenging, to say the least!
 
Fortunately for me at the time this all started I was already well-supplied with a lot of household essentials including the all-important toilet paper, due to my years-long-habit of starting to stock up and add a little extra to my purchases during the late autumn and moving into the winter months in anticipation of inclement weather where I would not want or actually be able to get out for a while. That strategy has sure paid-off big time during this pandemic!

That feeling of good fortune for being a pantry keeper is one that I share! By October or November every year I've usually been ready to get from that season to around March, without more than a trip to the grocery every couple weeks or so to re-up on produce and other perishable items. I had expected to transition next winter to Instacart as a substitute for even those trips, in choosing not to get another vehicle at my age, but of course it's been a wild trip so far with that gig thanks to the Covid-19 experience.

As for the staple items, once there's a "new normal" that starts to feel safe day-to-day for shoppers in the town groceries around here, I plan to do some of that shopping in person again (and paying a driver I know) because really the excess packaging that ends up coming into my place just from buying a few cases of stuff for the pantry now and then is amazing. It's wasteful even if it does get recycled. Reverting to local shopping, the driver makes a few bucks for his time plus gas for his vehicle, and I get to shop the sales again as I did when I was driving.... and then I can quit thinking about that privileged box of crackers winging its wasteful way from California to my kitchen, gee. No one really makes out well off that except possibly the airlines, now starved of everything but its belly cargo these days. LOL wonder if they even gave my box of crackers a window seat...

Looking forward to first greens from local gardens... spring has to show up sometime before winter comes around again. Gardening is what everyone around here wants to get on with, and it's not the covid-19 lockdown that's holding us up, it's the weather gods with a vise grip on the key to planting season.
 
My Italian heart just stopped at reading this...

Haha!!!

Yeah I mean I could just go to the grocery store if I wanted bc it’s packed, it’s like the whole city is ESPECIALLY hungry these days lol.

If I wasn’t on a diet I’d go.

I’m a terrible shopper because I can’t help but get the essentials when I see them (Lays, Rice Krispies, Frosted Flakes, 2% Milk, Peanut Butter, Hawaiian Rolls, Butter, Ritz Crackers, American Cheese, Diet Soda, etc)

If I don’t see the food, I don’t really miss it. And if I don’t have it at my place, I don’t eat it.

I’m literally that guy who tells myself I’m picking up the KK Kreme donuts at checkout for charity 😂
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I suspect that the OP is actually a resident in one of the southern states which has already reopened pretty much all the way, and so therefore he is not dealing with some of the situations that are having a serious impact on people in more severely-affected parts of the US, such as the entire NYC/NJ/CT area or the DC/MD/VA area.

Aside from that, yes, people all around the US have still been having to deal with what's available and what's not (temporarily) available at their local grocery store and when, along with the recommendations for wearing a mask and gloves while shopping (although I imagine that these recommendations have been loosened, too, in the not-so-heavily populated areas of this country?).....

For me, online shopping (even for some foods!) has been a real blessing, and I've gotten what I needed or wanted without fuss or muss. Local delivery has worked fine for pizza and such but I haven't gone beyond that.

Unlike some people have mentioned on this forum about their shopping habits, I have significantly lessened my trips to local stores. As someone living alone I don't need to have a whole bunch of food available every day for everyone in a household, it's just me, and I'm not interested in preparing gourmet meals for myself anyway, so I'm able to limit my grocery store visits so that it can be as long as a week or more before I ever set foot in one, and when I do I just deal with what I alone need and want that is actually available at that time and move on.... I realize that I'm really fortunate in not having to deal with what families do....

Fortunately for me at the time this all started I was already well-supplied with a lot of household essentials including the all-important toilet paper, due to my years-long-habit of starting to stock up and add a little extra to my purchases during the late autumn and moving into the winter months in anticipation of inclement weather where I would not want or actually be able to get out for a while. That strategy has sure paid-off big time during this pandemic!

For me this whole pandemic thing has undoubtedly been much less stressful than it has been for others since I don't have a lot to manage when it comes to a family, nor, because I am very much an introvert, do I care all that much about when things reopen, getting out and mingling with others in various social situations, especially those involving being in bars or restaurants with strangers.

All of us have our own approaches to this whole totally unique and different situation which seemingly came out of nowhere and really zapped us. Now worldwide, we've just got to sort out how to keep people healthy and alive and how to keep the economy moving forward as well..... These next several years are going to be challenging, to say the least!

I’m lucky to be able to live wherever I want and still have friends and family bc they live in all regions of our country.

Some of the family, I would probably avoid though even if/when I go 😂

Bc I can work from anywhere, all I need is a WiFi so it doesn’t matter where I am
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And as far where I live when I go, literally in hotel suites if necessary.
 
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Most of America is basically open, and it warms my heart to see.

Here’s a map:


I would love see someone write a book about people’s first time out again, what they did, what it was like.

It’s a surreal feeling just to see our friends, girlfriend, restaurants, things we couldn’t do for weeks
 
Right now, regardless of that map, I daresay that the definition of "open" is actually somewhat different from state to state, not to mention local jurisdictions within the individual states, so that what appears on some chart is probably rather misleading when it comes right down to how residents in a given community do, can and will conduct their lives.

That said, sure, over the last two months or so the emphasis has been on the more heavily-populated areas, which not surprisingly have indeed reported higher levels of identified illnesses, hospitalizations and deaths. Scary stuff, especially for those who live within those "hot zones." This virus doesn't discriminate when it comes to snagging new hosts. One can be a multimillionaire and fall ill, or one can be a single mother trying to support her family by working at a low-paying retail job who falls ill.....

IMHO that does not mean that those who live in less-populated areas can run about sans mask and sans taking any precautions, greeting and meeting friends just as in the old days, as it is more than likely if they are doing so, that somewhere along the line the all-too-sneaky, non-discriminating virus will find itself a new home, a new host, in a human body or two and then spread, and yeah, this blithe disregarding of precautions and such may very well be something that swings back to solidly smack the folks seeking sociability right in the face, the lungs or the gut to the point where they find themselves in a hospital bed struggling for breath, trying to hang on to life. Then that state or region will find itself once again under lockdown since there has been a fresh surge of the virus. Surprise, surprise?! No......

As for me, I'm living in one of those "hot zones" and so restrictions have not let up for us at all now, even though they are about to be or just have been loosened for the rest of the residents in other (rural) parts of my state. Fine with me, I will continue to live as I have been, and in many ways there aren't too many differences between my usual wintertime hunkering down and what I am doing now..... This virus has been incredibly destructive and continues to be so, and to my way of thinking, if one wants to continue living and have some quality of life, it is only common sense to at least take what are recommended precautions.
 
Right now, regardless of that map, I daresay that the definition of "open" is actually somewhat different from state to state, not to mention local jurisdictions within the individual states, so that what appears on some chart is probably rather misleading when it comes right down to how residents in a given community do, can and will conduct their lives.

That said, sure, over the last two months or so the emphasis has been on the more heavily-populated areas, which not surprisingly have indeed reported higher levels of identified illnesses, hospitalizations and deaths. Scary stuff, especially for those who live within those "hot zones." This virus doesn't discriminate when it comes to snagging new hosts. One can be a multimillionaire and fall ill, or one can be a single mother trying to support her family by working at a low-paying retail job who falls ill.....

IMHO that does not mean that those who live in less-populated areas can run about sans mask and sans taking any precautions, greeting and meeting friends just as in the old days, as it is more than likely if they are doing so, that somewhere along the line the all-too-sneaky, non-discriminating virus will find itself a new home, a new host, in a human body or two and then spread, and yeah, this blithe disregarding of precautions and such may very well be something that swings back to solidly smack the folks seeking sociability right in the face, the lungs or the gut to the point where they find themselves in a hospital bed struggling for breath, trying to hang on to life. Then that state or region will find itself once again under lockdown since there has been a fresh surge of the virus. Surprise, surprise?! No......

As for me, I'm living in one of those "hot zones" and so restrictions have not let up for us at all now, even though they are about to be or just have been loosened for the rest of the residents in other (rural) parts of my state. Fine with me, I will continue to live as I have been, and in many ways there aren't too many differences between my usual wintertime hunkering down and what I am doing now..... This virus has been incredibly destructive and continues to be so, and to my way of thinking, if one wants to continue living and have some quality of life, it is only common sense to at least take what are recommended precautions.

I think common sense plays a big role in handling this.

For example, if you and your friends don’t have it and want to hangout at the local bar, even better if y’all hangout in the outside area of the bar, and if it is allowed by the local government, then someone might say “staying at home is no fun, I’ll just do it”

but if someone is like “gosh, I ran out of fig jelly and I’m not really feeling orange marmalade, let me hit up Walmart during peak hours” well then I don’t know about that lol
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NOTE: but if someone is comfortable going to Walmart and picking up fig jelly than i would never criticize that just as I wouldn’t criticize people Who claim to still be quarantining. I don’t know anyone personally but I’m sure there’s some


BUT

I think the people who claim to be quarantining...I wouldn’t be surprised if they’ve been going out on the low 😂
 
The first part of what you wrote is absolutely on the money: the use of common sense. Unfortunately, the definition of "common sense" can be rather fluid and varies to a large degree among people, which then may not make it so "sensible" after all any more, right?

I daresay, too, that with increasingly nice and warmer weather, especially in the southern states, that it will be all the more difficult to once again rein in and contain residents of any given area, hold them to social distancing and going only to outdoor settings when feasible even if the coronavirus is running rampant. That is why there are dire predictions of this thing being far from over and an even worse surge of illness than was experienced the first time around (and from all indications, the virus actually hasn't even finished running its course the first time around in some areas).
 
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