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What's the last album/album's you bought?

Surely said:
It is neither ignorance nor music snobbery. It is observation. I have no doubt that you think that Saul Williams is awesome. I was not criticizing him and his potential awesomeness. But the truth is, hip hop is in a horrible state. Maybe it, as a genre, will turn itself around in the next few years (like indie rock has, for example), but I am not hopeful. It's all about the cash these days.

Oh, and I'm not a jerk. Name-calling is against MR forum rules. I don't think Barack Obama would approve. Way to lose all credibility from the very first sentence to the very last word.
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I know that you think that you are special because you listen to indie rock (so do I BTW and I love it). What is interesting is that I think the bands that you posted are great! You think that because you listen to indie rock you are on the inside track--that you have found the beautiful amidst all the trash on the airwaves. I say you are no different than anyone else. Dismissing something out of hand without looking below the surface. Eating what you are fed. Soaking up the stereotypes. Hip hop is doing fine--you just have to little bit harder. Pop music is what sucks--all genres. And that is not going to turn itself around as long as there are big bucks to be made off of lowest common denominator entertainment.

Another thing: I'm not even sure that this could be called hip-hop. You are trying to box it in without knowing anything about it. Genres may be necessary evils (in our endless quest to categorize everything), but if we let them influence the way we think of music too much, we will end up missing out on a lot of great things. That said, this album is kind of hard, and I don't expect everyone to like it--but this argument is not just about Saul Williams.

I am almost sorry for calling you a jerk, but I am surrounded by people like you constantly--people who judge too quickly without looking deeper. It puts a dent in my faith in humanity.

;)wee beastie
 
Last few week's purchases....

The Teenagers are awesome - Parisian electropop band. All style no substance? Maybe, but if I could write a chorus that good I'd be very happy. (Note: contains some very bad language)

MGMT - One of the hottest bands around at the moment. Will be one of my albums of 2008

Sonic Youth - 1st major label album and only £5? Bargain.

Devon Sproule - Cheerful country/jazz infused album. Very pleasant.

As for Saul Williams... In fairness to Surely it is a terrible album name (IMO). I would however catagorise SW as Slam Poetry rather than Hip-hop (but that's another argument for another thread:p)
 

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Manu Chao - Clandestino
Willy Mason - Where the humans eat
Willy Mason - If the Ocean gets rough
Johnny Cash - At Folsom Prison/ At San Quentin
 

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Wee Beastie said:
I know that you think that you are special because you listen to indie rock (so do I BTW and I love it). What is interesting is that I think the bands that you posted are great! You think that because you listen to indie rock you are on the inside track--that you have found the beautiful amidst all the trash on the airwaves. I say you are no different than anyone else. Dismissing something out of hand without looking below the surface. Eating what you are fed. Soaking up the stereotypes. Hip hop is doing fine--you just have to little bit harder. Pop music is what sucks--all genres. And that is not going to turn itself around as long as there are big bucks to be made off of lowest common denominator entertainment.

Another thing: I'm not even sure that this could be called hip-hop. You are trying to box it in without knowing anything about it. Genres may be necessary evils (in our endless quest to categorize everything), but if we let them influence the way we think of music too much, we will end up missing out on a lot of great things. That said, this album is kind of hard, and I don't expect everyone to like it--but this argument is not just about Saul Williams.

I am almost sorry for calling you a jerk, but I am surrounded by people like you constantly--people who judge too quickly without looking deeper. It puts a dent in my faith in humanity.

;)wee beastie
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I do not think I am special because I listen to Indie Rock. What kind of ridiculous statement is that? I like what I like- and that used to include hip hop. Hip hop is most definitely not doing fine. Hip hop hasn't been doing fine for years. I like this sentence that you used: "And that is not going to turn itself around as long as there are big bucks to be made off of lowest common denominator entertainment.", and I think it totally applies to today's hip hop industry.

On the one hand you're telling me not to allow genres to "influence the way we think of music too much, we will end up missing out on a lot of great things", and then you're telling me that "Pop music is what sucks--all genres"? You're just a walking contradiction, aren't you? And not all Pop music sucks, BTW.

I think that maybe YOU think that you are special. You are a very self-righteous person.

Maybe you shouldn't take the criticism of an album name so personally. You say I shouldn't "dismiss something out of hand without looking below the surface"? Well, that's Saul Williams' own fault for choosing such a stupid name for an album and using such a cliche picture as well. Where's the creativity in that? How is that album cover going to attract me to buy it? That is the point of album covers, you know. For all I know it's the best album I will ever hear, but because of the silliness that is the title, I'll never know.

I wouldn't expect you to be sorry for calling me a jerk. People like you tend to find ways around apologizing for anything.

I most definitely have never been accused of judging too quickly. I put a dent in your faith in humanity? Wow. Because I don't like the name of a Saul Williams album? Drama queen much? Maybe you should go listen to some Emo.


capoeirista said:
As for Saul Williams... In fairness to Surely it is a terrible album name (IMO). I would however catagorise SW as Slam Poetry rather than Hip-hop (but that's another argument for another thread:p)
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Thank you, capoeirista, I appreciate you adding your opinion to this discussion (and without name-calling too! ;))
 
rhett7660 said:
Great album and even greater band! Love these guys, have seen them to many times to count.
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yeah there amazing I haven’t seen them live cant believe they are no more tho :( so underrated though oh and chk out the other album by cavalera conspiracy there kick ass.

Type O Negative "Dead Again"
Type O Negative "The Best of.."
Hellyeah "Hellyeah

great selection there to mate :)
 
Despite my having cited Death Cab as my pick for most overrated band awhile back, I may have failed to confess then that I always buy their stuff anyway.

So... well... I just pre-ordered their forthcoming album "Narrow Stairs" -- plunked down 99c at iTunes for one track now, pay the rest later. At over eight minutes, the enticement track provides plenty of time to wonder if I really want to follow them into their indie dark any more, but it's a bit late to wonder this time; iTunes has recorded my click for the whole thing, due out in mid-May.

Other stuff I bought recently includes some languid, samba-tinged covers by Nouvelle Vague on their EP album. I was taken down that path by first hearing "Manner of Speaking" as credits rolled for the film "A Mighty Heart."

Of the several tracks I picked, I like their different (slowed way down!) take on "Making Plans for Nigel" the best. I think I like it better than the XTC original; the sarcasm of the lyric is somehow more successful with the Nouvelle Vague singer's laid-back, simultaneously intimate yet childlike and matter of fact delivery. The slow bossa nova sway is perfect for "... he has his future in British Steel... Nigel's whole future's as good as sealed... (long sigh)... Nigel is happy in his work...." It's not my regular choice of genre, but it's fun for helping reclaim one's own life after work on any night of the week.
 
I just bought ASHES dIVIED. (good price on amazon). Not to impressed right now but, it takes awhile for new albums to grow on me.

Also bought The Rolling Stones, Beggars Banquet... Good stuff.
 
Yoshida Brothers- Yoshida Brothers (think original Wii comercial)
KISS- Alive III
CKY- Infiltrate-Destroy-Rebuild
Beastie Boys- 5 Boroughs
 
The Alchemy Index Vol 3 & 4 - Thrice
Wish You Were Here - Pink Floyd
London Calling - The Clash

Last iTunes purhcases:
Handlebars - Flobots
I Will Possess Your Heart - Death Cab For Cutie
 

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From Tower Records, Namba, Japan... :D

RadioHead in concert, Super arena in Tokyo on Saturday, Oct 4 @ 5:00 PM
I wanna gooooo!!! But I'll be out of town! :(
 

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rhett7660 said:
Being a huge Kiss fan... I really liked Alive III. I also really liked Alive IV. If you can find it, the deluxe edition is pretty cool.
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For many years I managed a bike shop owned by a major KISS fan. I HATED KISS, I could not stand them. He would come through the shop and, no matter what was playing, would switch it to KISS. He'd stand there for a few like he was actually doing something, tapping foot, then promptly leave.

Then, somehow, having been away from it for a few years now, I found myself occasionally humming a tune (since they had been ingrained into my head through years of abuse). So I finally broke down and got it.
 
For many years I managed a bike shop owned by a major KISS fan. I HATED KISS, I could not stand them. He would come through the shop and, no matter what was playing, would switch it to KISS. He'd stand there for a few like he was actually doing something, tapping foot, then promptly leave.

Then, somehow, having been away from it for a few years now, I found myself occasionally humming a tune (since they had been ingrained into my head through years of abuse). So I finally broke down and got it.
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That made me chuckle. Give into the dark side.......
 
rhsgolfer33
London Calling - The Clash
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What a great freaking album..... Fav song on the album is the title track. If you are into punk, have you tried, which I am assuming you have vandals. Love that band........ Re-found them on iTunes. Ended up purchasing alot of there stuff. Used to have them on cassette tape. Oh the days.
 
I recently rediscovered Meat Loaf, and decided to buy a few of his old albums. They were 7 bucks a CD, which is a bargain I think. I also got Mika.

--Erwin
 
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